think you Karen I have someone looking it up for me. I hope there is one sandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Ansley Krugman" <Karen@miprofgenie.com> To: "sandra" <maddux@ida.net>; <MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: RE: [MIGEN] finding my sister's father > If you found a death date and maybe a place, how about an obituary? > Karen > > Check out some of our web pages: > *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > *http://www.miprofgenie.com > *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > *Researcher, Author & Speaker > *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > 248*670*1243 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sandra [mailto:maddux@ida.net] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:50 PM > To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIGEN] finding my sister's father > > > I would like to think everyone for there help in finding my sister's father, > Howard Miller. With your help I did find him. unfortunately he died only two > month ago. My sister almost cried when she found out how close she was to > being able to met him. Now we are trying to find Howard's children, if he > has any and a wife if there is on and where he is buried. > thank again for all your help! > Sandra > > >

I would like to think everyone for there help in finding my sister's father, Howard Miller. With your help I did find him. unfortunately he died only two month ago. My sister almost cried when she found out how close she was to being able to met him. Now we are trying to find Howard's children, if he has any and a wife if there is on and where he is buried. thank again for all your help! Sandra

Even though the Web site shows 110 years, Michigan did pass a law about two years ago changing it from 110 to 100 years. They are currently "working" on getting it dropped to 75 years. That may take a while. Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: tjarv@hiwaay.net [mailto:tjarv@hiwaay.net] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:33 PM To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIGEN] Michigan birth records That agrees with what I've seen and found first hand in requesting birth records. Also, "(Michigan) death and marriage records are available since 1867. Any individual may request a copy." "Birth Records: The first page says, "Records are available since 1867. Birth records are restricted in Michigan and only a person named on the record or who is a legal guardian or representative of an individual named on the record may request a copy." But when you go to the link, it says, "ELIGIBILITY:  Michigan law limits who can receive a certified copy of a Michigan birth record. You must select which category qualifies you to receive the requested record.  To be eligible you must be either the person named on the record, a parent named on the record, a legal guardian, a legal representative or an heir of the person named on the record.  Anyone is eligible for a copy of a birth record that is at least 110 years old. http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/requests.htm The Michigan.gov link has a nicely formatted pdf form you can print and fill out and mail off. See http://www.michigan.gov/documents/birthapp_6360_7.PDF from: http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-4645_4702---,00.html The county also may have the records. Libby   "Renee O." wrote: > If the person is deceased and you are an heir, you can get the birth > certificate if it is less than 100 years.  Sometimes you have to remind them > that the party is deceased and you are directly related.  I got one from a city > and stated that as a sister, I would be an heir (which may mean decendant, not > sure the legal definition of that) but they checked with the state and then > sent me the birth certificate.  It was for my brother who was born in 1960 and > lived only one day. > > Renee (Holmes) O'Neal > > --- Karen Ansley Krugman <Karen@miprofgenie.com> wrote: > >    Michigan birth records are closed unless the births are over 100 years > > old or if you are named on the certificate.  With the dates you have given > > you should be able to order the birth certificates from the Vital Records > > office in Lansing.  You can order those thru Vital Check. > >     As for the death records and marriage records, unless you find someone > > on line who has information to share you may have to go to a research > > facility such as the Library of Michigan or a library that has some Michigan > > books to do the research.   The US GenWeb pages can be very helpful in > > locating information on deaths and marriages in Michigan as well. > >    You can locate the GenWeb pages by going to any good search engine and > > typing in US GenWeb.  Then branching down to the state pages you need and > > finally the county pages from there. > >    Good luck with your search! > >   Karen (Michigan) > > > > Check out some of our web pages: > > *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1  (Main home page) > > *http://www.miprofgenie.com > > *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > > *Researcher, Author & Speaker > > *Karen Krugman,  P.O. Box 577, Birmingham,  MI 48012 > >             248*670*1243 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:49 AM > > To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY > > > > > > Hi > > > > I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without > > you all I would never have got the information I have. > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and > > Deaths > > I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I > > have > > managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. > > I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at > > Charlotte. > > Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England > > they would have lived Charlotte. > > > > Regards > > Rose Light > > England > > > > > > > >

That agrees with what I've seen and found first hand in requesting birth records. Also, "(Michigan) death and marriage records are available since 1867. Any individual may request a copy." "Birth Records: The first page says, "Records are available since 1867. Birth records are restricted in Michigan and only a person named on the record or who is a legal guardian or representative of an individual named on the record may request a copy." But when you go to the link, it says, "ELIGIBILITY:  Michigan law limits who can receive a certified copy of a Michigan birth record. You must select which category qualifies you to receive the requested record.  To be eligible you must be either the person named on the record, a parent named on the record, a legal guardian, a legal representative or an heir of the person named on the record.  Anyone is eligible for a copy of a birth record that is at least 110 years old. http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/requests.htm The Michigan.gov link has a nicely formatted pdf form you can print and fill out and mail off. See http://www.michigan.gov/documents/birthapp_6360_7.PDF from: http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-4645_4702---,00.html The county also may have the records. Libby   "Renee O." wrote: > If the person is deceased and you are an heir, you can get the birth > certificate if it is less than 100 years.  Sometimes you have to remind them > that the party is deceased and you are directly related.  I got one from a city > and stated that as a sister, I would be an heir (which may mean decendant, not > sure the legal definition of that) but they checked with the state and then > sent me the birth certificate.  It was for my brother who was born in 1960 and > lived only one day. > > Renee (Holmes) O'Neal > > --- Karen Ansley Krugman <Karen@miprofgenie.com> wrote: > >    Michigan birth records are closed unless the births are over 100 years > > old or if you are named on the certificate.  With the dates you have given > > you should be able to order the birth certificates from the Vital Records > > office in Lansing.  You can order those thru Vital Check. > >     As for the death records and marriage records, unless you find someone > > on line who has information to share you may have to go to a research > > facility such as the Library of Michigan or a library that has some Michigan > > books to do the research.   The US GenWeb pages can be very helpful in > > locating information on deaths and marriages in Michigan as well. > >    You can locate the GenWeb pages by going to any good search engine and > > typing in US GenWeb.  Then branching down to the state pages you need and > > finally the county pages from there. > >    Good luck with your search! > >   Karen (Michigan) > > > > Check out some of our web pages: > > *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1  (Main home page) > > *http://www.miprofgenie.com > > *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > > *Researcher, Author & Speaker > > *Karen Krugman,  P.O. Box 577, Birmingham,  MI 48012 > >             248*670*1243 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] > > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:49 AM > > To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY > > > > > > Hi > > > > I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without > > you all I would never have got the information I have. > > > > Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and > > Deaths > > I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I > > have > > managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. > > I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at > > Charlotte. > > Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England > > they would have lived Charlotte. > > > > Regards > > Rose Light > > England > > > > > > > >

I am trying to help my sister find her father, Howard Anthony Miller. She is in her sixty's and never know him. My dad adopted her when she was little and she never know it. She just found out about him about 5 years ago. so far this is what I have about him. Frank Young (grandfather of Howard Miller) born about 1851, Baden, Germany. Frank lived in Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio in 1880. He lived in Huntington Park City, LA Co., California in 1920. He was married to Elizabeth. She was born in about 1850 Ohio. Her parents were born in Germany. There daughter was Pearl Young. Pearl Young (mother of Howard Miller) Pearl Young born about 1896 in Ohio Married ? Miller who was born in England. I don't know where they were married but Howard Miller and his older sister Sonia born about 1916) was born in Michigan. I think that Howard's father died because I find Howard and Sonia living with there mother and grandparents in Huntington Park City in a 1920 Census. Pearl married next, Arthur F. Daniels born about 1889 in California. They had Donald A. Daniels born about 1924 in California. In a 1930 Census Sonia is not with them and they are still living in Huntington Park City, LA Co., California. Howard Anthony Miller born March 24, 1918 in Michigan married my mother about 1940. I don't know where. The next place that I find Howard is in San Quentin Prison in may 1942. 5 to life. He might of been transferred to Chino prison and I have someone at California Archives trying to find something on that for me. Howard might be dead by now but my sister wants to know. If he is dead she wants to know where he is buried. Does anyone know anything about this family? thank you Sandra maddux@ida.net

If the person is deceased and you are an heir, you can get the birth certificate if it is less than 100 years. Sometimes you have to remind them that the party is deceased and you are directly related. I got one from a city and stated that as a sister, I would be an heir (which may mean decendant, not sure the legal definition of that) but they checked with the state and then sent me the birth certificate. It was for my brother who was born in 1960 and lived only one day. Renee (Holmes) O'Neal --- Karen Ansley Krugman <Karen@miprofgenie.com> wrote: > Michigan birth records are closed unless the births are over 100 years > old or if you are named on the certificate. With the dates you have given > you should be able to order the birth certificates from the Vital Records > office in Lansing. You can order those thru Vital Check. > As for the death records and marriage records, unless you find someone > on line who has information to share you may have to go to a research > facility such as the Library of Michigan or a library that has some Michigan > books to do the research. The US GenWeb pages can be very helpful in > locating information on deaths and marriages in Michigan as well. > You can locate the GenWeb pages by going to any good search engine and > typing in US GenWeb. Then branching down to the state pages you need and > finally the county pages from there. > Good luck with your search! > Karen (Michigan) > > Check out some of our web pages: > *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) > *http://www.miprofgenie.com > *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames > *Researcher, Author & Speaker > *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 > 248*670*1243 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:49 AM > To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY > > > Hi > > I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without > you all I would never have got the information I have. > > Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and > Deaths > I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I > have > managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. > I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at > Charlotte. > Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England > they would have lived Charlotte. > > Regards > Rose Light > England > > > >

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One other place that I forgot to mention for marriage information in Michigan is the DiBean Marriage lists. The DiBeans have spent years locating marriage records and giving them to all of the Michigan GenWeb sites. So while on the MICHIGAN sites, look for the DiBean list for Marriages. This is ONLY in MICHIGAN, and doesn't always tell you exactly where they found the record, but it is a start. Karen Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: Karen Ansley Krugman [mailto:Karen@miprofgenie.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:08 AM To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY Michigan birth records are closed unless the births are over 100 years old or if you are named on the certificate. With the dates you have given you should be able to order the birth certificates from the Vital Records office in Lansing. You can order those thru Vital Check. As for the death records and marriage records, unless you find someone on line who has information to share you may have to go to a research facility such as the Library of Michigan or a library that has some Michigan books to do the research. The US GenWeb pages can be very helpful in locating information on deaths and marriages in Michigan as well. You can locate the GenWeb pages by going to any good search engine and typing in US GenWeb. Then branching down to the state pages you need and finally the county pages from there. Good luck with your search! Karen (Michigan) Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:49 AM To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY Hi I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without you all I would never have got the information I have. Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and Deaths I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I have managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at Charlotte. Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England they would have lived Charlotte. Regards Rose Light England

Michigan birth records are closed unless the births are over 100 years old or if you are named on the certificate. With the dates you have given you should be able to order the birth certificates from the Vital Records office in Lansing. You can order those thru Vital Check. As for the death records and marriage records, unless you find someone on line who has information to share you may have to go to a research facility such as the Library of Michigan or a library that has some Michigan books to do the research. The US GenWeb pages can be very helpful in locating information on deaths and marriages in Michigan as well. You can locate the GenWeb pages by going to any good search engine and typing in US GenWeb. Then branching down to the state pages you need and finally the county pages from there. Good luck with your search! Karen (Michigan) Check out some of our web pages: *http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) *http://www.miprofgenie.com *Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames *Researcher, Author & Speaker *Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 248*670*1243 -----Original Message----- From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 3:49 AM To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIGEN] PARR FAMILY Hi I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without you all I would never have got the information I have. Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and Deaths I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I have managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at Charlotte. Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England they would have lived Charlotte. Regards Rose Light England

Hi I would like to thank everyone who has helped me with my Parr Family without you all I would never have got the information I have. Can anyone tell me where I can get information on Births Marriages and Deaths I have been on Ansestry but really haven't got anything.The only thing I have managed to get is Carson's death in 1996 at Charlotte. I would like to find a marriage for Mary born 1883 and Edith born 1886 at Charlotte. Also a death for Herbert born 1863 in England and Mary born 1864 in England they would have lived Charlotte. Regards Rose Light England

The info is a bit bland I am afraid but here it is: Robert and Maria TREBY end up in Washington State as far as I could find and never had children. Samuel TREBY married Velora A. DANIELS of Michigan and also ended up in Washington. Never seemed to have children of their own but did adopt Helen, shown as age 11 in 1920. RC

Looking for information on the family of Robert D. and Nettie Goldsmith Stewart who were married in Saginaw in 1883 and later lived in Pontiac. They ran the Stewart Sweet Shop. Robert was born in Scotland and immigrated to Canada then Saginaw with his parents, grandparents,aunts, uncles and cousins. Robert and Nettie(Madaline name listed in 1920 census) had to my knowledge 6 children: Robert Roy b 1886 Jane Marie b 1894 Clarance Maude b 1890 Thelma b 1895 Sarah M I have lots of information about Robert Roy and Jane Marie however the other children are a mystery. Thanks for any help, Mary Watkins

Hi, Listers: I would appreciate hearing from anyone who may be descendants of James MCKELVEY, who was born in Northern Ireland on August 12, 1831, and died in Ontario, Canada on March 29, 1909. His wife, Mary (HEBNER?), was born in what was then called Upper Canada on February 16, 1832, and died on August 29, 1917. James and Mary had a large family, consisting of the following children: Sarah Catherine married John Thomas SMITH William John married Mary (last name unknown) Mary married Paul (CHAPPELLE?), then William "Bill" WISE Joseph married Lydia (last name unknown) Annie married Ed HUGHSON Robert (died young) Frank (died young) Alexander married Eliza MCCARTNEY Ellen married George EASTMAN Mark married Mary (last name unknown) George married Ann (last name unknown) Alice Ida (did not marry) Some of James and Mary's children emigrated to Michigan in the latter half of the 1800s. Annie and Ed Hughson reportedly lived in Manistique, MI, and did not have any children. William John and Mary had a family of eight: Ida, Mabel, Florence, Alice, Annie, Pearl, Howard and Floyd. Annie was reportedly born in Dansville, MI (date unknown) and died about 1932. She was married to Charles BRAY. Florence was also born in Michigan, but the exact location is unknown to me. Her husband was Frank KERR. They may have had four children. Pearl was married to Jack BROOKS and Cleo (VAN RIPER?). Pear and Jack had a daughter Lucille, who married Sherman VALLAD), and a son Jack, Jr. Howard is believed to have died about 1980. His wife was Tina (last name unknown). I have a photo that might possibly be of William and Mary's six daughters. The Manistique photographer's name is difficult to make out but appears to be spelled something like PROULE. Mary and Paul Chappelle had two children: Bertha and Sydney. I have photos of Mary and Bertha that were taken in Saginaw, MI, by photographer B. KRUPP. I don't know what became of Paul, but Mary later married Bill Wise. My mother tells me that they lived in Huntsville, Ontario, which is where Mary is buried. Alexander was born about 1874. I have a photo of him taken in Manistique by a photographer who went by the name "Howard." Alex and Eliza were married about February 1899. They had two daughters, Vivian and (Nina or Anna), and a son, Harold. Harold reportedly ran a garage in Manistique. Vivian reportedly went to live with her Aunt Annie Hughson when Eliza was too ill to raise her, and Aunt Annie took Harold after Eliza died. Vivian eventually went to California. Ellen's husband George Eastman was born somewhere in Michigan. I have a photo of her that was also taken by "Howard" in Manistique. They had two daughters (names not known) and a son, Thomas. My connection to these people is through Sarah Catherine McKelvey and John Thomas Smith, who were my maternal great-grandparents. I hope that this information will ring a bell with some of you out there. Thank you in advance for assisting me in locating my American cousins. Sincerely, Bryan Gallagher, Toronto, Ontario.

Dear All, I am trying to find out more about Robert B Treby who was in the 1880 US Census in Vienna, Genesee, Michigan. Robert B. TREBY Self M Male W 35 ENG Farmer & Blacksmith Maria H. TREBY Wife M Female W 34 ENG Keeping House Samuel TREBY Brother S Male W 20 ENG At School I believe that Robert is a Cousin and came from Devon, England. I was wondering if it is possible to find any more information on this family. Best wishes Thomas Peeke www.devonroots.org.uk -- Thomas Peeke

Thomas in England.......... Enumeration District: 72, Sheet 4B. January 5, 1920. Seattle (city- Precient #8 ), King county, Washington state, USA. I find Samuel and his wife and adopted daughter on this 1920 Federal Census. Samuel Treby, owns home, free of mortgage, male, white, age 59, married, immigrated 1874, naturalized (can't read the date), born England, father born Unknown England, mother born Unknown England, occupation: INstructor at YMCA, working. Velora A., wife, female, white, age 52, married, born Michigan, parents born England. no occupation. Helen, adopted daughter, female, white age 11, single, born Washington state, father born Michigan, mother born Minnesota. You can go to this site and follow instructions below, to view the census page and also search other census years, etc. This is a site that you have to pay to view, EXCEPT... you can go in the 'backdoor' through this library site, and use it for a while, then there were pop-up a page asking for a password. When this happens, just close the website. Go back to the library page and start over again. They must have a timer that only allows you to search a short time, then they ask for the password, so just keep starting over when that happens. The U.S. census for 1900, 1910 and some other years, are all indexed and searchable at this site ! Good luck, please scroll down for instructions.....also try searching for Robert using his middle name instead of first name, or try both ways. Mary Delta County Library in Colorado has access to Heritage Quest. Here is a link to the library web site and you don't need a password for access. http://www.dcpld.org/ After clicking on this link go to- Web Picks. Next go to- People Next click on- Heritage Quest On the next page you will have access to census images that are indexed. Not all of the 1920 and 1930 are indexed. The book section of Heritage Quest is also very good and has alot of county history books on line. 1880 Fed. Census Place: Vienna, Genesee County, Michigan Source: FHL Film 1254579 National Archives Film T9-0579 Page 414D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Robert B. TREBY Self M M W 35 ENG Occ: Farmer & Blacksmith Fa: ENG Mo: ENG Maria H. TREBY Wife F M W 34 ENG Occ: Keeping House Fa: ENG Mo: ENG Samuel TREBY Brother M S W 20 ENG Occ: At School Fa: ENG Mo: ENG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Peeke" <thomas@peeke.demon.co.uk> To: <MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 6:39 AM Subject: [MIGEN] Treby Family in Vienna, Genesee, Michigan > > Dear All, > > I am trying to find out more about Robert B Treby who was in the 1880 > US Census in Vienna, Genesee, Michigan. > > Robert B. TREBY Self M Male W 35 ENG Farmer & Blacksmith > Maria H. TREBY Wife M Female W 34 ENG Keeping House > Samuel TREBY Brother S Male W 20 ENG At School > > I believe that Robert is a Cousin and came from Devon, England. I was > wondering if it is possible to find any more information on this family. > Best wishes > > Thomas Peeke > www.devonroots.org.uk > -- > Thomas Peeke

I am very pleased to announce that the 1890-91 West Bay City Directory is now complete and online thanks to Carol Szelogowski. This completes the directory for 1890-1891. This is an extremely valuable resource for researchers. It is finding aid that helps to replace the 1890 census. Please visit the BAYMIGenWeb <http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/bay> site to view the West Bay City Directory. Donna Hoff-Grambau Michigan Family <http://www.mifamilyhistory.org/> History Network Bay <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mibay/index.html> County MIGenWeb Isabella <http://www.rootsweb.com/~miisabel/isabella.html> County MIGenWeb Midland <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mimidlan/midlandindex.htm> County MIGenWeb Missaukee <http://www.rootsweb.com/~mimissau/missauke.html> County MIGenWeb

Hi' I've got a new E-mail address. It's bmfetzer24@msn.com. I hope that I haven't missed anyone. I can still get mail through the existing address of George. Sincerely, Betty Fetzer

Rose, Michigan began keeping "official" records in 1867. So ordering death certificates & marriage records from the state after that date is an option. Birth records must be at least 100 hundred years old in order for you to order them in the state of Michigan. The only exceptions are if you have an attorney and can show reason OR if you are NAMED on the birth certificate. I would contact the local genealogy or historical society in the community in which you are researching to locate the names of churches and where that record might be found. You might also try checking the ROOTSWEB web site for that county to see if anything is listed there that would help you. You can go to Rootsweb.com and look for the state link. Click on Michigan. Then on the county once you are taken to the state page. Hope this helps. Regards, Karen (Oakland County, Michigan) Check out some of our web pages: * http://www.wwnet.net/~krugman1 (Main home page) * http://www.miprofgenie.com * Surname list owner for Boomershine & Ligon surnames Karen Krugman, P.O. Box 577, Birmingham, MI 48012 -----Original Message----- From: RoseKirbylight@aol.com [mailto:RoseKirbylight@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:45 PM To: MIGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIGEN] Births Deaths & Marriages Hi Could anyone tell me how I would go about getting information on my Parr family when they were born etc.I have the ages from the Census They lived in Charlotte do I get the addresses of the Churches and write there or is there anyone on the list who could look this up for me at the LDS please. Regards Rose Light England

Hi Could anyone tell me how I would go about getting information on my Parr family when they were born etc.I have the ages from the Census They lived in Charlotte do I get the addresses of the Churches and write there or is there anyone on the list who could look this up for me at the LDS please. Regards Rose Light England

Hi,does anyone live in the Lake Ann, Beulah area? I need help! I don't get back to Michigan that often. My grandfather was born there and I would like to find some information on him. I understand that the birth records have to be at least 100 yrs. old before they'll let you have a look at them. If anyone can do the leg work for me I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Here's the info: Henry Altman dob 3-18-1891 in Beulah Michigan Father's name: August Altman Mother's name: Mary Altman I can research Mary Altman's lineage but I am totalled stumped with August. His full name is: Johann Friedrick August Altmann - - two N's. It got shortened along the way. I know that August's dob is 8-25-1855 in Germany and that's about it. If anyone out there can help me out...Please do I'd appreciate it very much. Thanks Bonny Altman-Goldberg