being next door to each other, the trouble spills over between the areas. A guy I was a college with reported a drug dealer who lived next door to his girlfriend, and got thrown on the balcony of the block of flats, 8 weeks in hospital and then moved to another part of the country by the council for his own safety Liz >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 18:54:27 -0500 > >and I thought Moss Side was bad....<GRIN> > >Mike >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Liz Parkinson" <parkinsonliz@hotmail.com> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:14 PM >Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > Mike, nowadays you wouldnt want to visit Hulme, and if you did, you sure > > wouldnt recognise it - all 60s built flats and drugs and drive by >shooting - > > al ot of good positive stuff going on there as well, but it is a bad >area > > now > > > > Liz > > > > >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > > >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > > >Subject: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0500 > > > > > >I lived with my grandmother, mom and dad and younger brother for a >short > > >time during the war in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire England. > > > > > >My gran lived in a one up and one down terraced house dating from >around > > >1850. It had a small scullery with a door leading to a very small back >yard > > >which housed a toilet in a small building in the back yard. There was >no > > >cellar. The ground floor flooring was sand stone paving stones. She had >one > > >cold water tap and a two ring gas burner with a grill. The oven was >part >of > > >her fireplace. She made wonderful Sunday dinners, baked excellent pies > > >although fruit and sugar were scarce. The lighting was one gas lamp in >the > > >downstairs room. This was one of many terraced homes in the south part >of > > >Manchester. > > > > > >A lot of them were infested with large red flat bed bugs. I was told >many > > >years later this was due to them using horse hair to bond the plaster >to > > >the > > >wood lathes on the walls and ceilings. But the war of the bugs is >another > > >story :)) > > > > > >Thanks for the memories......... :)) > > > > > >Mike Morris > > >Toronto Canada > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > > >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:23 PM > > >Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > > > > > > > Roger: No wonder its called a close, thats 8 people in two rooms. > > > > > > > > Gordon > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:54 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > Here is what I read before I had the advantage of your email! >There > > >was > > >an > > > > > S on ATKIN > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > Edinburgh, Canongate > > > > > 685/3/31 page 5 > > > > > Old Church except North(?) Side from 242 - 254, inclusive. >Embracing > > > > > Pirrie's Close and Gibb's Close. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. > > > > > 4 Pirrie's Close - 2 rooms with one window or more. > > > > > John ATKINS Head, M, 30.. ..Gold Beater, born England > > > > > Emma ATKINS, wife, M, 29...........born England > > > > > Matilda ATKINS, daur, 4, scholar... born England > > > > > William ATKINS, son, 2,.... born England > > > > > Eugenie (?) ATKINS daur, 1mo,.... born Edinburgh > > > > > John BRANNON, Boarder, M 29, Gold Beater ...born Edinburgh > > > > > Maud(?) BRANNON, Boarder, M, 25, Boarder.. born Manchester > > > > > Emma BRANNON Boarder, 11months..... born Edinburgh. > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > (?) means I stuggled with the word and it is open to >interpretation. >2 > > >of > > > > > us looked at Eugenie. > > > > > So we should have read Sarah! > > > > > I wrote no 4. Perhaps it was 6. There were several households at >each > > > > > number. > > > > > I didn't see Thomas. I looked at the rest of Pirrie's Close and >didn't > > > > > notice any other ATKINs. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps but I could look again another time if you want me >to > > > > > check or try to send you a copy. The machines with printers were >busy. > > > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Jane > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > > > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:53 PM > > > > > Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Jane, > > > > >> Thank you for your generous offer. I really would appreciate it >if > > >you > > > > >> can > > > > >> spare the time to look this up. > > > > >> > > > > >> The family lived at #6 Pirrie's Close in March of 1871. District > > > > >> Cannongate, > > > > >> Burgh of > > > > >> Edinburgh, Scotland. > > > > >> > > > > >> John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire > > > > >> Wife Emma b1842 Salford > > > > >> Son Thomas b1862 England > > > > >> Dau Matilda B1867 Salford > > > > >> Son William b1869 Salford > > > > >> Dau Sarah Ann born 21 March 1871 at above listed address in >Scotland. > > > > >> > > > > >> Please could you also see if there are any other ATKIN families > > >living > > >in > > > > >> Pirrie's Close. I am curious to see if John ATKIN'S parents John >and > > >Mary > > > > >> ATKIN might be near by or some of his siblings. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best wishes > > > > >> Mike Morris > > > > >> Toronto Canada > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > > > > >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 AM > > > > >> Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> Hi Mike, > > > > >>> > > > > >>> If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 Pirrie's > > >Close, > > > > >>> in > > > > >> my > > > > >>> lunch hour. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Best Wishes, > > > > >>> Jane <snip> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >3/18/05 > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. > > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/05 >