No Gordon, we went in the middle of winter, near froze to death. aggie >Aggie: Did you visit the gardens down by the harbor? > > Gordon >----- Original Message ----- >From: <AAgg435@netscape.net> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:12 PM >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > >>I love the underground city. Night in Montreal is not >> scary. Not once did my friend and I feel uncomfortable. >> >> aggie >> >>>A good safe place to be after dark is the underground city in Montreal, >>>Canada. Its safe, trendy, and fun! >>> >>> Gordon >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Gil & Sonia Murray" <happyman70@bellsouth.net> >>>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:36 AM >>>Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> >>> >>>> Sounds like New Orleans! Used to be a fun place to visit but now... The >>>> French Quarter is still fun, but stay in the centre/center and be in >>>> your >>>> hotel before dark. Years ago, our vet was murdered there, robbers >>>> attacked >>>> his wife and he was shot when he tried to intervene. There are places >>>> in >>>> our town, Biloxi, MS, where it's not good to be in after dark. I grew up >>>> in >>>> the 1950's in Kent, at Margate, where the only murder this century, in >>>> the >>>> 1930's, was still talked about. Times have changed! >>>> >>>> Happy hunting, >>>> Sonia >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Liz Parkinson [mailto:parkinsonliz@hotmail.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:14 AM >>>> To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> >>>> I dont drive through that part of Manchester - the VERY occassions I >>>> have >>>> got lost and found myself there, all the windows and doors and locked on >>>> the >>>> car and get out as soon as possible >>>> >>>> Liz >>>> >>>>>From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >>>>>Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:42 -0400 >>>>> >>>>>Sounds like Baltimore, Maryland, they have nightly drive bye and also >>>>>walk bye shootings. They only have about 65,000 drug addicts(10% of >>>>>population) and only 52% of the non white males have prison records. >>>>>Needless to say I live in the County and seldom visit that esteemed >>>>>city. >>>>> >>>>> Gordon >>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>>>>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:54 PM >>>>>Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>and I thought Moss Side was bad....<GRIN> >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" >>>>>><parkinsonliz@hotmail.com> >>>>>>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:14 PM >>>>>>Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Mike, nowadays you wouldnt want to visit Hulme, and if you did, you >>>>>>>sure wouldnt recognise it - all 60s built flats and drugs and drive >>>>>>>by >>>>>>shooting - >>>>>>>al ot of good positive stuff going on there as well, but it is a bad >>>>>>>area now >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Liz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>>>>>> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >Subject: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>>> >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0500 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >I lived with my grandmother, mom and dad and younger brother for a >>>>>>>short >>>>>>> >time during the war in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire England. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >My gran lived in a one up and one down terraced house dating from >>>>>>>around >>>>>>> >1850. It had a small scullery with a door leading to a very small >>>>>>> >back >>>>>>yard >>>>>>> >which housed a toilet in a small building in the back yard. There >>>>>>> >was >>>>>>>no >>>>>>> >cellar. The ground floor flooring was sand stone paving stones. She >>>>>>> >had >>>>>>one >>>>>>> >cold water tap and a two ring gas burner with a grill. The oven was >>>>>>>part >>>>>>of >>>>>>> >her fireplace. She made wonderful Sunday dinners, baked excellent >>>>>>> >pies although fruit and sugar were scarce. The lighting was one gas >>>>>>> >lamp in >>>>>>the >>>>>>> >downstairs room. This was one of many terraced homes in the south >>>>>>> >part of Manchester. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >A lot of them were infested with large red flat bed bugs. I was >>>>>>> >told many years later this was due to them using horse hair to bond >>>>>>> >the plaster >>>>>>>to >>>>>>> >the >>>>>>> >wood lathes on the walls and ceilings. But the war of the bugs is >>>>>>> >another story :)) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >Thanks for the memories......... :)) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >Mike Morris >>>>>>> >Toronto Canada >>>>>>> >----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >>>>>>> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:23 PM >>>>>>> >Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > Roger: No wonder its called a close, thats 8 people in two rooms. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > Gordon >>>>>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> > > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>>>>>> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:54 PM >>>>>>> > > Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > > Hi Mike, >>>>>>> > > > Here is what I read before I had the advantage of your email! >>>>>>>There >>>>>>> >was >>>>>>> >an >>>>>>> > > > S on ATKIN >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > > Edinburgh, Canongate >>>>>>> > > > 685/3/31 page 5 >>>>>>> > > > Old Church except North(?) Side from 242 - 254, inclusive. > > >>>>>>> > > > > >>>>>>>Embracing >>>>>>> > > > Pirrie's Close and Gibb's Close. >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. >>>>>>> > > > 4 Pirrie's Close - 2 rooms with one window or more. >>>>>>> > > > John ATKINS Head, M, 30.. ..Gold Beater, born England Emma >>>>>>> > > > ATKINS, wife, M, 29...........born England Matilda ATKINS, >>>>>>> > > > daur, 4, scholar... born England William ATKINS, son, 2,.... >>>>>>> > > > born England Eugenie (?) ATKINS daur, 1mo,.... born Edinburgh >>>>>>> > > > John BRANNON, Boarder, M 29, Gold Beater ...born Edinburgh >>>>>>> > > > Maud(?) BRANNON, Boarder, M, 25, Boarder.. born Manchester >>>>>>> > > > Emma BRANNON Boarder, 11months..... born Edinburgh. >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> > > > (?) means I stuggled with the word and it is open to > > > >>>>>>>interpretation. >>>>>>2 >>>>>>> >of >>>>>>> > > > us looked at Eugenie. >>>>>>> > > > So we should have read Sarah! >>>>>>> > > > I wrote no 4. Perhaps it was 6. There were several households >>>>>>> > > > at >>>>>>each >>>>>>> > > > number. >>>>>>> > > > I didn't see Thomas. I looked at the rest of Pirrie's Close >>>>>>> > > > and >>>>>>didn't >>>>>>> > > > notice any other ATKINs. >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > Hope this helps but I could look again another time if you >>>>>>> > > > want me >>>>>>to >>>>>>> > > > check or try to send you a copy. The machines with printers >>>>>>> > > > were >>>>>>busy. >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > Best Wishes, >>>>>>> > > > Jane >>>>>>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> > > > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>>>>>> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:53 PM >>>>>>> > > > Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > >> Hi Jane, >>>>>>> > > >> Thank you for your generous offer. I really would appreciate >>>>>>> > > >> it >>>>>>>if >>>>>>> >you >>>>>>> > > >> can >>>>>>> > > >> spare the time to look this up. >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> The family lived at #6 Pirrie's Close in March of 1871. >>>>>>> > > >> District Cannongate, Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire >>>>>>> > > >> Wife Emma b1842 Salford Son Thomas b1862 England Dau Matilda >>>>>>> > > >> B1867 Salford Son William b1869 Salford Dau Sarah Ann born 21 >>>>>>> > > >> March 1871 at above listed address in >>>>>>Scotland. >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> Please could you also see if there are any other ATKIN >>>>>>> > > >> families >>>>>>> >living >>>>>>> >in >>>>>>> > > >> Pirrie's Close. I am curious to see if John ATKIN'S parents >>>>>>> > > >> John >>>>>>and >>>>>>> >Mary >>>>>>> > > >> ATKIN might be near by or some of his siblings. >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> Best wishes >>>>>>> > > >> Mike Morris >>>>>>> > > >> Toronto Canada >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> > > >> From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>>>>>> > > >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 AM >>>>>>> > > >> Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 >>>>>>> > > >>> Pirrie's >>>>>>> >Close, >>>>>>> > > >>> in >>>>>>> > > >> my >>>>>>> > > >>> lunch hour. >>>>>>> > > >>> >>>>>>> > > >>> Best Wishes, >>>>>>> > > >>> Jane <snip> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> -- >>>>>>> > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>> > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>>>> > > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>>>>>>3/18/05 >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > >> >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>>>> > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>>>>>> > > 3/18/05 >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >-- >>>>>>> >No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>>>> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>-- >>>>>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/05 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> Switch to Netscape Internet Service. >> As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at >> http://isp.netscape.com/register >> >> Netscape. 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