Hahahaha!!! This is so sweet. You reminded me of my mother. She lied about her age. After her death I checked her date of birth, she lied so often she forgot her age she was a year younger then she was saying. Headstones are also misleading. My father died a tragic death all paper work was destroyed. The atty for his estate without research or my consent gave the monument company the wrong year of birth. To correct a one to a O wasn't a good move. A funeral director told me many people have wrong dates on headstones. aggie >Also - Because men seem to think they are entitled to younger wives, women >often take years off their age. My stepfather thought my mother was ten >years younger - she performed a little sleight of hand with her birth cert., >changing the year from 1906 to 1916, and got a passport and other documents >based on it - when she died at 86, her doctor thought she was 76. One of my >husband's GGgrandmothers had the fountain of youth. She aged 12 years over >3 censuses - from 1850 to 1880 in the U.S., she aged twelve years in thirty, >went from being 28 (truth) to being 40! > >Happy hunting, >Sonia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sally Taylor [mailto:taylor.sally@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:56 PM >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [MLN] Clutching at straws > >I don't think paying the GRO to search a pre-1855 death will be of any use, >since there was no official death registration in Scotland prior to 1855. > >The 1801-1806 range for year of birth is likely acceptable. People did not >always know exactly when they were born, and sometimes only gave their >children an inkling of their age. Bear in mind that the information on the >death certificate is given by whoever registered the death, and in many >cases, Yes even in those of a child of the deceased- they did not always >know the precise info. > >My Maternal Grandmother was born to James Davidson and Annie Chalmers, but >her death certificate has her born to Alexander Davidson and Agnes Pollack >and she was put down as 3 years younger than she would have actually been at >death! > >My father- born 1920 in England, never knew his parents dates of birth or >where they were born even. In 1960 my father applied for life insurance and >put down his fathers age as 70, however at that time my grandfather was >actually 75. > >Sally Taylor >Boxborough MA USA > >For what are we but reflections of our masters- those that came before us >and whose blood flows in our veins- the ancestors who don't wish to be >forgotten > >surname interests: ADAMS, BOOKER, DAVIDSON, DONALDSON, DUCKETT, FREELAND, >GRAY, MacARTHUR, MacGREGOR, PRIDE, SKINNER, WESTCOTT England and Scotland >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=n0055504 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kylie [mailto:wencheh@optusnet.com.au] >Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:44 PM >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MLN] Clutching at straws > >I'm starting to think its time to throw a tanty! I thought that maybe I >could get more clues to finding my William Noble's (Pilot in Leith) death by >finding his wife's death certificate. Her name is Janet Edmonstone and on >their marriage certificate it said daughter of John Edmonstone (Porter in >Leith) so following that I found that she was born approx 1806. I found a >certificate that has a Janet Noble, widow of James Noble, Pilot. She lived >in Yardheads, Leith (which is the last area I can find my Janet residing in) >and her father is listed as James Edmonstone. The age at death and the year >would make her born in 1801 and to a different set of parents. The informant >is listed as nephew and is the son of another of James Edmonstone's >daughters. >I have looked up marriages and cannot find a Janet Edmonstone married to a >James Noble. > >It is SO so close with all the information but if I took it as gospel its >not her. Can I assume that they got her fathers name wrong on her marriage >certificate and her husbands wrong on her death certificate? There are no >Johns in the family until Janet and Williams son Alexander had a son but >John Logan Noble is named after Alexander's wifes family. > >I am stumped on both William AND Janets deaths. To top it off Scotlands >People doesnt have death records before 1855, I suppose I will have to bite >the bullet and pay a fee to the GRO for them to search for it. > >If anyone would like to impart genealogical wisdom on this I would be oh so >grateful. > >Pulling my hair out, >Kylie > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

I love that - a year younger than she was saying! Gil's Ggrandfather is buried in Texas; his youngest son was present at the funeral. Seventy years later, the son finally put a tombstone on the grave. He was promptly beseiged by indignant cousins who said no, their great-grandmother was buried in that spot, he'd have to move that stone! He was sure he was right, so declined. The cemetery director was caught in the middle, and got the brunt of it from both sides, said wherever he went there was somebody cussing him out. The squabble went on for years until Great Uncle Henry died. Don't know if the cousins went secretly and moved the tombstone after his death, and if so, where in the cemetery they moved it to! Many years ago we bought a plot in the Biloxi cemetery. A few years after, there was a scandal - someone who had bought a plot died, and when they opened the grave they found an ancient coffin and human remains. The cemetery director had been reselling old, unmarked plots and pocketing the cash. We got our money back from the city - but who knows who was buried in that grave we thought would be ours! Happy hunting, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: AAgg435@netscape.net [mailto:AAgg435@netscape.net] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 9:41 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MLN] Clutching at straws -- OFF TOPIC Hahahaha!!! This is so sweet. You reminded me of my mother. She lied about her age. After her death I checked her date of birth, she lied so often she forgot her age she was a year younger then she was saying. Headstones are also misleading. My father died a tragic death all paper work was destroyed. The atty for his estate without research or my consent gave the monument company the wrong year of birth. To correct a one to a O wasn't a good move. A funeral director told me many people have wrong dates on headstones. aggie >Also - Because men seem to think they are entitled to younger wives, >women often take years off their age. My stepfather thought my mother >was ten years younger - she performed a little sleight of hand with her >birth cert., changing the year from 1906 to 1916, and got a passport >and other documents based on it - when she died at 86, her doctor >thought she was 76. One of my husband's GGgrandmothers had the >fountain of youth. She aged 12 years over >3 censuses - from 1850 to 1880 in the U.S., she aged twelve years in >thirty, went from being 28 (truth) to being 40! > >Happy hunting, >Sonia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sally Taylor [mailto:taylor.sally@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:56 PM >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [MLN] Clutching at straws > >I don't think paying the GRO to search a pre-1855 death will be of any >use, since there was no official death registration in Scotland prior to 1855. > >The 1801-1806 range for year of birth is likely acceptable. People did >not always know exactly when they were born, and sometimes only gave >their children an inkling of their age. Bear in mind that the >information on the death certificate is given by whoever registered the >death, and in many cases, Yes even in those of a child of the deceased- >they did not always know the precise info. > >My Maternal Grandmother was born to James Davidson and Annie Chalmers, >but her death certificate has her born to Alexander Davidson and Agnes >Pollack and she was put down as 3 years younger than she would have >actually been at death! > >My father- born 1920 in England, never knew his parents dates of birth >or where they were born even. In 1960 my father applied for life >insurance and put down his fathers age as 70, however at that time my >grandfather was actually 75. > >Sally Taylor >Boxborough MA USA > >For what are we but reflections of our masters- those that came before >us and whose blood flows in our veins- the ancestors who don't wish to >be forgotten > >surname interests: ADAMS, BOOKER, DAVIDSON, DONALDSON, DUCKETT, >FREELAND, GRAY, MacARTHUR, MacGREGOR, PRIDE, SKINNER, WESTCOTT England >and Scotland >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=n0055504 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Kylie [mailto:wencheh@optusnet.com.au] >Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 4:44 PM >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MLN] Clutching at straws > >I'm starting to think its time to throw a tanty! I thought that maybe I >could get more clues to finding my William Noble's (Pilot in Leith) >death by finding his wife's death certificate. Her name is Janet >Edmonstone and on their marriage certificate it said daughter of John >Edmonstone (Porter in >Leith) so following that I found that she was born approx 1806. I found >a certificate that has a Janet Noble, widow of James Noble, Pilot. She >lived in Yardheads, Leith (which is the last area I can find my Janet >residing in) and her father is listed as James Edmonstone. The age at >death and the year would make her born in 1801 and to a different set >of parents. The informant is listed as nephew and is the son of another >of James Edmonstone's daughters. >I have looked up marriages and cannot find a Janet Edmonstone married >to a James Noble. > >It is SO so close with all the information but if I took it as gospel >its not her. Can I assume that they got her fathers name wrong on her >marriage certificate and her husbands wrong on her death certificate? >There are no Johns in the family until Janet and Williams son Alexander >had a son but John Logan Noble is named after Alexander's wifes family. > >I am stumped on both William AND Janets deaths. To top it off Scotlands >People doesnt have death records before 1855, I suppose I will have to >bite the bullet and pay a fee to the GRO for them to search for it. > >If anyone would like to impart genealogical wisdom on this I would be >oh so grateful. > >Pulling my hair out, >Kylie > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. 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