Sounds like New Orleans! Used to be a fun place to visit but now... The French Quarter is still fun, but stay in the centre/center and be in your hotel before dark. Years ago, our vet was murdered there, robbers attacked his wife and he was shot when he tried to intervene. There are places in our town, Biloxi, MS, where it's not good to be in after dark. I grew up in the 1950's in Kent, at Margate, where the only murder this century, in the 1930's, was still talked about. Times have changed! Happy hunting, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Liz Parkinson [mailto:parkinsonliz@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:14 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family I dont drive through that part of Manchester - the VERY occassions I have got lost and found myself there, all the windows and doors and locked on the car and get out as soon as possible Liz >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:42 -0400 > >Sounds like Baltimore, Maryland, they have nightly drive bye and also >walk bye shootings. They only have about 65,000 drug addicts(10% of >population) and only 52% of the non white males have prison records. >Needless to say I live in the County and seldom visit that esteemed city. > > Gordon >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:54 PM >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > >>and I thought Moss Side was bad....<GRIN> >> >>Mike >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" >><parkinsonliz@hotmail.com> >>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:14 PM >>Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >> >> >>>Mike, nowadays you wouldnt want to visit Hulme, and if you did, you >>>sure wouldnt recognise it - all 60s built flats and drugs and drive >>>by >>shooting - >>>al ot of good positive stuff going on there as well, but it is a bad >>>area now >>> >>>Liz >>> >>> >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>> >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>> >Subject: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0500 >>> > >>> >I lived with my grandmother, mom and dad and younger brother for a >>>short >>> >time during the war in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire England. >>> > >>> >My gran lived in a one up and one down terraced house dating from >>>around >>> >1850. It had a small scullery with a door leading to a very small >>> >back >>yard >>> >which housed a toilet in a small building in the back yard. There >>> >was >>>no >>> >cellar. The ground floor flooring was sand stone paving stones. She >>> >had >>one >>> >cold water tap and a two ring gas burner with a grill. The oven was >>>part >>of >>> >her fireplace. She made wonderful Sunday dinners, baked excellent >>> >pies although fruit and sugar were scarce. The lighting was one gas >>> >lamp in >>the >>> >downstairs room. This was one of many terraced homes in the south >>> >part of Manchester. >>> > >>> >A lot of them were infested with large red flat bed bugs. I was >>> >told many years later this was due to them using horse hair to bond >>> >the plaster >>>to >>> >the >>> >wood lathes on the walls and ceilings. But the war of the bugs is >>> >another story :)) >>> > >>> >Thanks for the memories......... :)) >>> > >>> >Mike Morris >>> >Toronto Canada >>> >----- Original Message ----- >>> >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >>> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:23 PM >>> >Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> > >>> > >>> > > Roger: No wonder its called a close, thats 8 people in two rooms. >>> > > >>> > > Gordon >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:54 PM >>> > > Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > Hi Mike, >>> > > > Here is what I read before I had the advantage of your email! >>>There >>> >was >>> >an >>> > > > S on ATKIN >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > > > Edinburgh, Canongate >>> > > > 685/3/31 page 5 >>> > > > Old Church except North(?) Side from 242 - 254, inclusive. > > >>> > > > > >>>Embracing >>> > > > Pirrie's Close and Gibb's Close. >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. >>> > > > 4 Pirrie's Close - 2 rooms with one window or more. >>> > > > John ATKINS Head, M, 30.. ..Gold Beater, born England Emma >>> > > > ATKINS, wife, M, 29...........born England Matilda ATKINS, >>> > > > daur, 4, scholar... born England William ATKINS, son, 2,.... >>> > > > born England Eugenie (?) ATKINS daur, 1mo,.... born Edinburgh >>> > > > John BRANNON, Boarder, M 29, Gold Beater ...born Edinburgh >>> > > > Maud(?) BRANNON, Boarder, M, 25, Boarder.. born Manchester >>> > > > Emma BRANNON Boarder, 11months..... born Edinburgh. >>> > > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> > > > (?) means I stuggled with the word and it is open to > > > >>>interpretation. >>2 >>> >of >>> > > > us looked at Eugenie. >>> > > > So we should have read Sarah! >>> > > > I wrote no 4. Perhaps it was 6. There were several households >>> > > > at >>each >>> > > > number. >>> > > > I didn't see Thomas. I looked at the rest of Pirrie's Close >>> > > > and >>didn't >>> > > > notice any other ATKINs. >>> > > > >>> > > > Hope this helps but I could look again another time if you >>> > > > want me >>to >>> > > > check or try to send you a copy. The machines with printers >>> > > > were >>busy. >>> > > > >>> > > > Best Wishes, >>> > > > Jane >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:53 PM >>> > > > Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >> Hi Jane, >>> > > >> Thank you for your generous offer. I really would appreciate >>> > > >> it >>>if >>> >you >>> > > >> can >>> > > >> spare the time to look this up. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> The family lived at #6 Pirrie's Close in March of 1871. >>> > > >> District Cannongate, Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire >>> > > >> Wife Emma b1842 Salford Son Thomas b1862 England Dau Matilda >>> > > >> B1867 Salford Son William b1869 Salford Dau Sarah Ann born 21 >>> > > >> March 1871 at above listed address in >>Scotland. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Please could you also see if there are any other ATKIN >>> > > >> families >>> >living >>> >in >>> > > >> Pirrie's Close. I am curious to see if John ATKIN'S parents >>> > > >> John >>and >>> >Mary >>> > > >> ATKIN might be near by or some of his siblings. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Best wishes >>> > > >> Mike Morris >>> > > >> Toronto Canada >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > > >> From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>> > > >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 AM >>> > > >> Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >>> Hi Mike, >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 >>> > > >>> Pirrie's >>> >Close, >>> > > >>> in >>> > > >> my >>> > > >>> lunch hour. >>> > > >>> >>> > > >>> Best Wishes, >>> > > >>> Jane <snip> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> -- >>> > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> > > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>>3/18/05 >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>> > > 3/18/05 >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >-- >>> >No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>> >>> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/05 >> >> >> > >
A good safe place to be after dark is the underground city in Montreal, Canada. Its safe, trendy, and fun! Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gil & Sonia Murray" <happyman70@bellsouth.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > Sounds like New Orleans! Used to be a fun place to visit but now... The > French Quarter is still fun, but stay in the centre/center and be in your > hotel before dark. Years ago, our vet was murdered there, robbers > attacked > his wife and he was shot when he tried to intervene. There are places in > our town, Biloxi, MS, where it's not good to be in after dark. I grew up > in > the 1950's in Kent, at Margate, where the only murder this century, in the > 1930's, was still talked about. Times have changed! > > Happy hunting, > Sonia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Liz Parkinson [mailto:parkinsonliz@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:14 AM > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > I dont drive through that part of Manchester - the VERY occassions I have > got lost and found myself there, all the windows and doors and locked on > the > car and get out as soon as possible > > Liz > >>From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >>Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:42 -0400 >> >>Sounds like Baltimore, Maryland, they have nightly drive bye and also >>walk bye shootings. They only have about 65,000 drug addicts(10% of >>population) and only 52% of the non white males have prison records. >>Needless to say I live in the County and seldom visit that esteemed city. >> >> Gordon >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:54 PM >>Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >> >> >>>and I thought Moss Side was bad....<GRIN> >>> >>>Mike >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" >>><parkinsonliz@hotmail.com> >>>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:14 PM >>>Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>> >>> >>>>Mike, nowadays you wouldnt want to visit Hulme, and if you did, you >>>>sure wouldnt recognise it - all 60s built flats and drugs and drive >>>>by >>>shooting - >>>>al ot of good positive stuff going on there as well, but it is a bad >>>>area now >>>> >>>>Liz >>>> >>>> >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>>> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>> >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >>>> >Subject: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0500 >>>> > >>>> >I lived with my grandmother, mom and dad and younger brother for a >>>>short >>>> >time during the war in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire England. >>>> > >>>> >My gran lived in a one up and one down terraced house dating from >>>>around >>>> >1850. It had a small scullery with a door leading to a very small >>>> >back >>>yard >>>> >which housed a toilet in a small building in the back yard. There >>>> >was >>>>no >>>> >cellar. The ground floor flooring was sand stone paving stones. She >>>> >had >>>one >>>> >cold water tap and a two ring gas burner with a grill. The oven was >>>>part >>>of >>>> >her fireplace. She made wonderful Sunday dinners, baked excellent >>>> >pies although fruit and sugar were scarce. The lighting was one gas >>>> >lamp in >>>the >>>> >downstairs room. This was one of many terraced homes in the south >>>> >part of Manchester. >>>> > >>>> >A lot of them were infested with large red flat bed bugs. I was >>>> >told many years later this was due to them using horse hair to bond >>>> >the plaster >>>>to >>>> >the >>>> >wood lathes on the walls and ceilings. But the war of the bugs is >>>> >another story :)) >>>> > >>>> >Thanks for the memories......... :)) >>>> > >>>> >Mike Morris >>>> >Toronto Canada >>>> >----- Original Message ----- >>>> >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> >>>> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:23 PM >>>> >Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > Roger: No wonder its called a close, thats 8 people in two rooms. >>>> > > >>>> > > Gordon >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>>> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:54 PM >>>> > > Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > > Hi Mike, >>>> > > > Here is what I read before I had the advantage of your email! >>>>There >>>> >was >>>> >an >>>> > > > S on ATKIN >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > > > Edinburgh, Canongate >>>> > > > 685/3/31 page 5 >>>> > > > Old Church except North(?) Side from 242 - 254, inclusive. > > >>>> > > > > >>>>Embracing >>>> > > > Pirrie's Close and Gibb's Close. >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. >>>> > > > 4 Pirrie's Close - 2 rooms with one window or more. >>>> > > > John ATKINS Head, M, 30.. ..Gold Beater, born England Emma >>>> > > > ATKINS, wife, M, 29...........born England Matilda ATKINS, >>>> > > > daur, 4, scholar... born England William ATKINS, son, 2,.... >>>> > > > born England Eugenie (?) ATKINS daur, 1mo,.... born Edinburgh >>>> > > > John BRANNON, Boarder, M 29, Gold Beater ...born Edinburgh >>>> > > > Maud(?) BRANNON, Boarder, M, 25, Boarder.. born Manchester >>>> > > > Emma BRANNON Boarder, 11months..... born Edinburgh. >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > > > (?) means I stuggled with the word and it is open to > > > >>>>interpretation. >>>2 >>>> >of >>>> > > > us looked at Eugenie. >>>> > > > So we should have read Sarah! >>>> > > > I wrote no 4. Perhaps it was 6. There were several households >>>> > > > at >>>each >>>> > > > number. >>>> > > > I didn't see Thomas. I looked at the rest of Pirrie's Close >>>> > > > and >>>didn't >>>> > > > notice any other ATKINs. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Hope this helps but I could look again another time if you >>>> > > > want me >>>to >>>> > > > check or try to send you a copy. The machines with printers >>>> > > > were >>>busy. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Best Wishes, >>>> > > > Jane >>>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > > > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >>>> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:53 PM >>>> > > > Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >> Hi Jane, >>>> > > >> Thank you for your generous offer. I really would appreciate >>>> > > >> it >>>>if >>>> >you >>>> > > >> can >>>> > > >> spare the time to look this up. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> The family lived at #6 Pirrie's Close in March of 1871. >>>> > > >> District Cannongate, Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire >>>> > > >> Wife Emma b1842 Salford Son Thomas b1862 England Dau Matilda >>>> > > >> B1867 Salford Son William b1869 Salford Dau Sarah Ann born 21 >>>> > > >> March 1871 at above listed address in >>>Scotland. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> Please could you also see if there are any other ATKIN >>>> > > >> families >>>> >living >>>> >in >>>> > > >> Pirrie's Close. I am curious to see if John ATKIN'S parents >>>> > > >> John >>>and >>>> >Mary >>>> > > >> ATKIN might be near by or some of his siblings. >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> Best wishes >>>> > > >> Mike Morris >>>> > > >> Toronto Canada >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> > > >> From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> >>>> > > >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 AM >>>> > > >> Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >>> Hi Mike, >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 >>>> > > >>> Pirrie's >>>> >Close, >>>> > > >>> in >>>> > > >> my >>>> > > >>> lunch hour. >>>> > > >>> >>>> > > >>> Best Wishes, >>>> > > >>> Jane <snip> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> -- >>>> > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>> > > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>>>3/18/05 >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > -- >>>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>> > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: >>>> > > 3/18/05 >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >-- >>>> >No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/05 >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > >
Margate and Broadstairs and the like are probably still fairly safe nowadays, not been for a while but used to live in Chatham and went down to the coast sometimes Liz >From: "Gil & Sonia Murray" <happyman70@bellsouth.net> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 09:36:53 -0600 > >Sounds like New Orleans! Used to be a fun place to visit but now... The >French Quarter is still fun, but stay in the centre/center and be in your >hotel before dark. Years ago, our vet was murdered there, robbers attacked >his wife and he was shot when he tried to intervene. There are places in >our town, Biloxi, MS, where it's not good to be in after dark. I grew up in >the 1950's in Kent, at Margate, where the only murder this century, in the >1930's, was still talked about. Times have changed! > >Happy hunting, >Sonia > >-----Original Message----- >From: Liz Parkinson [mailto:parkinsonliz@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:14 AM >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >I dont drive through that part of Manchester - the VERY occassions I have >got lost and found myself there, all the windows and doors and locked on >the >car and get out as soon as possible > >Liz > > >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:55:42 -0400 > > > >Sounds like Baltimore, Maryland, they have nightly drive bye and also > >walk bye shootings. They only have about 65,000 drug addicts(10% of > >population) and only 52% of the non white males have prison records. > >Needless to say I live in the County and seldom visit that esteemed city. > > > > Gordon > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 7:54 PM > >Subject: Re: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > > >>and I thought Moss Side was bad....<GRIN> > >> > >>Mike > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Liz Parkinson" > >><parkinsonliz@hotmail.com> > >>To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 4:14 PM > >>Subject: RE: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >> > >> > >>>Mike, nowadays you wouldnt want to visit Hulme, and if you did, you > >>>sure wouldnt recognise it - all 60s built flats and drugs and drive > >>>by > >>shooting - > >>>al ot of good positive stuff going on there as well, but it is a bad > >>>area now > >>> > >>>Liz > >>> > >>> >From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > >>> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > >>> >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > >>> >Subject: [MLN] Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >>> >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:01:41 -0500 > >>> > > >>> >I lived with my grandmother, mom and dad and younger brother for a > >>>short > >>> >time during the war in Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire England. > >>> > > >>> >My gran lived in a one up and one down terraced house dating from > >>>around > >>> >1850. It had a small scullery with a door leading to a very small > >>> >back > >>yard > >>> >which housed a toilet in a small building in the back yard. There > >>> >was > >>>no > >>> >cellar. The ground floor flooring was sand stone paving stones. She > >>> >had > >>one > >>> >cold water tap and a two ring gas burner with a grill. The oven was > >>>part > >>of > >>> >her fireplace. She made wonderful Sunday dinners, baked excellent > >>> >pies although fruit and sugar were scarce. The lighting was one gas > >>> >lamp in > >>the > >>> >downstairs room. This was one of many terraced homes in the south > >>> >part of Manchester. > >>> > > >>> >A lot of them were infested with large red flat bed bugs. I was > >>> >told many years later this was due to them using horse hair to bond > >>> >the plaster > >>>to > >>> >the > >>> >wood lathes on the walls and ceilings. But the war of the bugs is > >>> >another story :)) > >>> > > >>> >Thanks for the memories......... :)) > >>> > > >>> >Mike Morris > >>> >Toronto Canada > >>> >----- Original Message ----- > >>> >From: "gordon crooks" <glcrooks@bcpl.net> > >>> >To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> >Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:23 PM > >>> >Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Roger: No wonder its called a close, thats 8 people in two rooms. > >>> > > > >>> > > Gordon > >>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > >>> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:54 PM > >>> > > Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > Hi Mike, > >>> > > > Here is what I read before I had the advantage of your email! > >>>There > >>> >was > >>> >an > >>> > > > S on ATKIN > >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > > > Edinburgh, Canongate > >>> > > > 685/3/31 page 5 > >>> > > > Old Church except North(?) Side from 242 - 254, inclusive. > > > >>> > > > > > >>>Embracing > >>> > > > Pirrie's Close and Gibb's Close. > >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. > >>> > > > 4 Pirrie's Close - 2 rooms with one window or more. > >>> > > > John ATKINS Head, M, 30.. ..Gold Beater, born England Emma > >>> > > > ATKINS, wife, M, 29...........born England Matilda ATKINS, > >>> > > > daur, 4, scholar... born England William ATKINS, son, 2,.... > >>> > > > born England Eugenie (?) ATKINS daur, 1mo,.... born Edinburgh > >>> > > > John BRANNON, Boarder, M 29, Gold Beater ...born Edinburgh > >>> > > > Maud(?) BRANNON, Boarder, M, 25, Boarder.. born Manchester > >>> > > > Emma BRANNON Boarder, 11months..... born Edinburgh. > >>> > > > > >>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> > > > (?) means I stuggled with the word and it is open to > > > > >>>interpretation. > >>2 > >>> >of > >>> > > > us looked at Eugenie. > >>> > > > So we should have read Sarah! > >>> > > > I wrote no 4. Perhaps it was 6. There were several households > >>> > > > at > >>each > >>> > > > number. > >>> > > > I didn't see Thomas. I looked at the rest of Pirrie's Close > >>> > > > and > >>didn't > >>> > > > notice any other ATKINs. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hope this helps but I could look again another time if you > >>> > > > want me > >>to > >>> > > > check or try to send you a copy. The machines with printers > >>> > > > were > >>busy. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Best Wishes, > >>> > > > Jane > >>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > >>> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:53 PM > >>> > > > Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > >> Hi Jane, > >>> > > >> Thank you for your generous offer. I really would appreciate > >>> > > >> it > >>>if > >>> >you > >>> > > >> can > >>> > > >> spare the time to look this up. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> The family lived at #6 Pirrie's Close in March of 1871. > >>> > > >> District Cannongate, Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire > >>> > > >> Wife Emma b1842 Salford Son Thomas b1862 England Dau Matilda > >>> > > >> B1867 Salford Son William b1869 Salford Dau Sarah Ann born 21 > >>> > > >> March 1871 at above listed address in > >>Scotland. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Please could you also see if there are any other ATKIN > >>> > > >> families > >>> >living > >>> >in > >>> > > >> Pirrie's Close. I am curious to see if John ATKIN'S parents > >>> > > >> John > >>and > >>> >Mary > >>> > > >> ATKIN might be near by or some of his siblings. > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> Best wishes > >>> > > >> Mike Morris > >>> > > >> Toronto Canada > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > > >> From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > >>> > > >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > >>> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:41 AM > >>> > > >> Subject: Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >>> Hi Mike, > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 > >>> > > >>> Pirrie's > >>> >Close, > >>> > > >>> in > >>> > > >> my > >>> > > >>> lunch hour. > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> Best Wishes, > >>> > > >>> Jane <snip> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> -- > >>> > > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>> > > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>> > > >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: > >>>3/18/05 > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > -- > >>> > > No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>> > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: > >>> > > 3/18/05 > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >-- > >>> >No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>> >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>> >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>-- > >>>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this outgoing message. > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 3/21/05 > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > >