Hello again, Thanks to all the listers who replied re SHILLINGLAW. Rhoda, I am fairly sure that the William who died at Dalkeith in 1809 (one of the five?) is my man, but no age is shown. Simply that he was a ' labourer at Newfarm.' Incidentally scotlandspeople have mis-read the year. I have examined the film and the year is '1807'. I did the decent thing and e-mailed them to point out the error. They told me to take it up with GROS. I told them to get off their backsides! Bob, I'm lost in admiration of (a) your industry, and (b) your technical ability in putting all that information on the screen. I'm beyond help as far as that sort of thing goes, being of a certain age, and posting my little bit on this list was the acme of my computing career! Your list includes Philip's known siblings (first four on your list) plus Philip's children born at Chislehurst Kent. Not shown is an earlier daughter, Ann, born 1808 at Bray, Berkshire (in IGI), and Elizabeth (c.1820) and Martha (c.1825) these last two not being found in any known parish-register. However, we believe they were born at Aberdalgie, Perthshire, as Philip was working at Dupplin between 1820 and 1841. The other 'Shillinglaw' baptisms, etc, in Kent don't appear to be directly connected with mine, despite the apparent geographical nearness. Liz, I've noted your interest re a Thomas SHILLINGLAW and will respond should anything come to my notice. Thank you. Ronald.