There are some non conformist records and small church records which are not on Scotland's People.  Someone on the listserv may have one of the rare CDs and be able to do a look up for you.  The other possibility is that they married in England or Ireland, or, I have read about some people who never "officially" married in the church because they thought that the fees for the banns was excessive. Mary --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Eunice Wilson <eunicewilson@btinternet.com> wrote: From: Eunice Wilson <eunicewilson@btinternet.com> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Kay family Lasswade To: MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:19 AM Hi First attempt at Scottish Family History.  I have the following Kay family on 1841, 1851 and 1681 census William Kay born c 1806 miller, wife Janet c 1811.  My problem is although I have numerous children I can not find a marriage for William and Janet nor can I find baptisms for William jr, Janet jr, Isabella, John, Agnes, James, or Margaret. I have searched Scotland's People on many occasions. Janet in 1861 was a toll keeper and a widow. A grandson of this family was William Alexander Kay who worked at Manchester University with Prof Rutherford when he split the atom. Is anybody researching this family, or could give me any advice, I would be very grateful. Eunice Wilson Cheshire ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary is rightly referring to 'irregular marriages'. They were carried out, before witnesses, and were legal until 1940. The church of course frowned upon them and would fine the couple and witnesses. You will often see in later years that the couple were married by a clergyman. It was too expensive for some couples to register many years ago. Information from the Scottish Record Office book. Sheila KC Mary Guler wrote: > There are some non conformist records and small church records which are not on Scotland's People. Someone on the listserv may have one of the rare CDs and be able to do a look up for you. The other possibility is that they married in England or Ireland, or, I have read about some people who never "officially" married in the church because they thought that the fees for the banns was excessive. > > Mary > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Eunice Wilson <eunicewilson@btinternet.com> wrote: > > From: Eunice Wilson <eunicewilson@btinternet.com> > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Kay family Lasswade > To: MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 7:19 AM > > Hi > > First attempt at Scottish Family History. I have the following Kay family on 1841, 1851 and 1681 census > > William Kay born c 1806 miller, wife Janet c 1811. My problem is although I have numerous children I can not find a marriage for William and Janet nor can I find baptisms for William jr, Janet jr, Isabella, John, Agnes, James, or Margaret. > > I have searched Scotland's People on many occasions. Janet in 1861 was a toll keeper and a widow. > > A grandson of this family was William Alexander Kay who worked at Manchester University with Prof Rutherford when he split the atom. > > Is anybody researching this family, or could give me any advice, I would be very grateful. > > Eunice Wilson > Cheshire > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >