Hi Ellie I had a look in the Vital Records Index for James birth. According to the 1881 Census he was 45 then, so that would give his birth as 1836. Going on that I found John Craik and Agnes Thompson had the following children christened:-Mary 1825 in Kirkcudbright, Janet 1828 in Kirkcudbright, William 1830 in Kirkcudbright, Robert 1832 in Kirkcudbright and James 3rd June 1836 in Kirkcudbright. They might be worth looking into. Regards Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine McNulty" <macmac3@optusnet.com.au> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MLN] CRAIK lookup