Hi Frank, Need to dig out a Russian forum url for you, the people are helpful one was able to get me information I had been searching for years. Something to keep in mind. Russian, Latvian, Poland and other surrounding countries use a feminine variant spelling, that spelling could be spelled many different ways. I found a Latvia cousin last name variant, daughter total different variant. Makes for a hard look. aggie >Would some one give me a good web site for England in search for SUIK name formerly of Russia going back to the area of Liveland, which is now named [Estonia I think] Looking for a Charles Swan [Swan could be english for SUIK] THANK YOU Frank > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp