Hi all, I'm trying to track down a death for Elizabeth TAIT (nee SHIELLS) and would like to find practically anything about her husband Robert TAIT, who is a major mystery. Elizabeth was born in Berwickshire c 1818 but married in Leith and lived in East Lothian for a while (1841 census and three children born Prestonkirk 1841-1847) and then in Midlothian from 1851. I have a copy of the marriage entry: "Proclamations June 1838 Robert Tait, Carter residing till lately at Janefield Place Leith, parish of South Leith, and Elizabeth Shiells residing at No 14 Duke Street Leith, same parish, and daughter of Willm Shiells, Gardener, Grange Loan, were three times proclaimed in order to marriage on 3 June 1838 & no objections offered, and were married at Edinr on 8th June 1838 by the Rev Willm Peddie, Edinburgh." Trouble is, Robert does not appear in any census with Elizabeth. She had six known children, four of them with Robert Tait named as father. In 1841 Just Elizabeth and daughter Mary were at home. In 1851 she has three daughters, and still no sign of Robert. In 1861 Elizabeth was at Nether Liberton and seems to have gained a son, William, aged 5, and still no sign of Robert. In 1871 she is still at Nether Liberton and has yet another son, George. In 1881 Elizabeth was living with her daughter Marion (whose first husband John Barclay died in 1875) and her second husband James Thomson. I cannot find Elizabeth after 1881 in theUK and nor is there a death entry for her at Scotlands People. There isn't a birth entry either, nor a marriage for her parents. Her brother John died in 1872 and his death certificate names his parents as William SHIELL and Mary SHIELL, but I can find nothing about either of them on SP or the censuses or the IGI. Maybe they were non-conformists or something but that wouldn't explain why there's no death certificate for Elizabeth. And as for Robert - I don't know his age or birthplace so I have no hope of identifying him in the Statutory deaths. Robert and Elizabeth's daughters were Mary (born 1841, married William ALLAN); Jane (born 1843, married George THOMSON; Marion (born 1847, married John BARCLAY then James THOMSON). I can't find the sons George (b 1863) and William (b 1856) after the 1871 census. In fact, I think George may be the illegitimate son of Elizabeth's daughter Mary - the only possibility for George at SP was born August 1862 and Mary didn't marry William ALLEN until May 1863. A son of the same forename, age and birthplace shows up with Mary and William in 1881. Does anyone know anything about these people? Does Robert show up in a directory somewhere perhaps, or on an MI? Does anyone have them in their tree? Many thanks, Loretta Melbourne, Australia
A few Taits and some Elizabeth Shiells to look at. These records are held in your local FHC files Bob Cdn --------------------------- TAIT, William Bir 1818 Scot Berw Earlst Fa: William TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELS TAIT, Alexander Bir 1823 Scot Berw Earlst Fa: William TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELS TURNBULL, James Bir 1824 Scot Lana Ruther Fa: James TURNBULL Mo: Elisabeth SHEILS TAIT, George Bir 1839 Scot Midl SouLei Fa: Robert TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELLS TAIT, Mary Bir 1841 Scot EaLo Presto Fa: Robert TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELS TAIT, Jean Bir 1843 Scot EaLo Presto Fa: Robert TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELS THOMSON, Mary Bir 1843 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: William THOMSON Mo: Elizabeth SHIELLS THOMSON, James Bir 1846 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: William THOMSON Mo: Elizabeth SHIELLS TAIT, Marion Bir 1847 Scot EaLo Presto Fa: Robert TAIT Mo: Elizabeth SHIELS THOMSON, Elizabeth Bir 1851 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: William THOMSON Mo: Elizabeth SHIELLS ============================================ Thomas Family wrote: <SNIP> > ...I'm trying to track down a death for Elizabeth TAIT (nee SHIELLS) and would > like to find practically anything about her husband Robert TAIT, who is a > major mystery.... > ==========================================
Hi I was wondering if he changed his occupation and perhaps joined the army. kind regards Marg O'Leary Port Stephens, NSW, Australia [email protected] family history web site - http://rickarby.com/present_searches.htm One name study - SKEAD, SKED TOMAREE FAMILY HISTORY - (Port Stephens NSW) http://www.tomareefamilyhistory.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Robert TAIT & Elizabeth SHIELL/S > Hi all, > > I'm trying to track down a death for Elizabeth TAIT (nee SHIELLS) and > would > like to find practically anything about her husband Robert TAIT, who is a > major mystery. > > Elizabeth was born in Berwickshire c 1818 but married in Leith and lived > in > East Lothian for a while (1841 census and three children born Prestonkirk > 1841-1847) and then in Midlothian from 1851. > > I have a copy of the marriage entry: > "Proclamations June 1838 > Robert Tait, Carter residing till lately at Janefield Place Leith, parish > of > South Leith, and Elizabeth Shiells residing at No 14 Duke Street Leith, > same > parish, and daughter of Willm Shiells, Gardener, Grange Loan, were three > times proclaimed in order to marriage on 3 June 1838 & no objections > offered, and were married at Edinr on 8th June 1838 by the Rev Willm > Peddie, > Edinburgh." > > Trouble is, Robert does not appear in any census with Elizabeth. She had > six > known children, four of them with Robert Tait named as father. > > In 1841 Just Elizabeth and daughter Mary were at home. In 1851 she has > three > daughters, and still no sign of Robert. In 1861 Elizabeth was at Nether > Liberton and seems to have gained a son, William, aged 5, and still no > sign > of Robert. In 1871 she is still at Nether Liberton and has yet another > son, > George. In 1881 Elizabeth was living with her daughter Marion (whose first > husband John Barclay died in 1875) and her second husband James Thomson. > > I cannot find Elizabeth after 1881 in theUK and nor is there a death entry > for her at Scotlands People. There isn't a birth entry either, nor a > marriage for her parents. Her brother John died in 1872 and his death > certificate names his parents as William SHIELL and Mary SHIELL, but I can > find nothing about either of them on SP or the censuses or the IGI. Maybe > they were non-conformists or something but that wouldn't explain why > there's > no death certificate for Elizabeth. > > And as for Robert - I don't know his age or birthplace so I have no hope > of > identifying him in the Statutory deaths. Robert and Elizabeth's daughters > were Mary (born 1841, married William ALLAN); Jane (born 1843, married > George THOMSON; Marion (born 1847, married John BARCLAY then James > THOMSON). > I can't find the sons George (b 1863) and William (b 1856) after the 1871 > census. In fact, I think George may be the illegitimate son of Elizabeth's > daughter Mary - the only possibility for George at SP was born August 1862 > and Mary didn't marry William ALLEN until May 1863. A son of the same > forename, age and birthplace shows up with Mary and William in 1881. > > Does anyone know anything about these people? Does Robert show up in a > directory somewhere perhaps, or on an MI? Does anyone have them in their > tree? > > Many thanks, > Loretta > Melbourne, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Do you think he might have been in prison eg 1841 census 1841 Census 500 Records found displaying records 101 to 200 Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: Edinburgh -Midlothian Enumeration District: 06 Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Greenside Folio: 28 Page: 1 Address: Gaol & Bridewell -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks Page: 28/5 BELL James M 20 Prisoner Wright Midlothian BELL David M 20 Prisoner Mason Midlothian PATON Alexander M 15 Prisoner Tailor Midlothian CALDER Alexander M 20 Prisoner Painter Midlothian BAILLE Thomas M 15 Prisoner None Midlothian MONCREIF David M 35 Prisoner Labourer Midlothian SHORT James M 15 Prisoner Typefounder Midlothian GRAME John M 15 Prisoner Baker Midlothian RUSSELL Robert M 25 Prisoner Shopman Outside Census County (1841) MCGREGOR James M 15 Prisoner Wright Midlothian THOMSON William M 15 Prisoner Flesher Midlothian TURNBULL James M 15 Prisoner Cooper Midlothian BROWN David M 14 Prisoner Lea Midlothian WALSH Robert M 15 Prisoner None Midlothian GRAY John M 20 Prisoner Flesher Outside Census County (1841) MCKENZIE William M 15 Prisoner Shopboy Outside Census County (1841) HAY James M 20 Prisoner Baker Outside Census County (1841) GRANDERSON Robert M 15 Prisoner Baker Midlothian HUME William M 14 Prisoner None Midlothian WELSH Felix M 60 Prisoner Weaver Ireland AITCHINSON Donald M 35 Prisoner Sweep Outside Census County (1841) BAIRD Samuel M 35 Prisoner Labourer Midlothian TAIT Robert M 25 Prisoner Labourer Outside Census County (1841) WALKER Joseph M 20 Prisoner Soldier England GILLAN Henry M 30 Prisoner Soldier Ireland kind regards Marg O'Leary Port Stephens, NSW, Australia [email protected] family history web site - http://rickarby.com/present_searches.htm One name study - SKEAD, SKED TOMAREE FAMILY HISTORY - (Port Stephens NSW) http://www.tomareefamilyhistory.com/index.html Tone's art web site http://www.tonesart.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Family" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:40 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Robert TAIT & Elizabeth SHIELL/S > Hi all, > > I'm trying to track down a death for Elizabeth TAIT (nee SHIELLS) and > would > like to find practically anything about her husband Robert TAIT, who is a > major mystery. > > Elizabeth was born in Berwickshire c 1818 but married in Leith and lived > in > East Lothian for a while (1841 census and three children born Prestonkirk > 1841-1847) and then in Midlothian from 1851. > > I have a copy of the marriage entry: > "Proclamations June 1838 > Robert Tait, Carter residing till lately at Janefield Place Leith, parish > of > South Leith, and Elizabeth Shiells residing at No 14 Duke Street Leith, > same > parish, and daughter of Willm Shiells, Gardener, Grange Loan, were three > times proclaimed in order to marriage on 3 June 1838 & no objections > offered, and were married at Edinr on 8th June 1838 by the Rev Willm > Peddie, > Edinburgh." > > Trouble is, Robert does not appear in any census with Elizabeth. She had > six > known children, four of them with Robert Tait named as father. > > In 1841 Just Elizabeth and daughter Mary were at home. In 1851 she has > three > daughters, and still no sign of Robert. In 1861 Elizabeth was at Nether > Liberton and seems to have gained a son, William, aged 5, and still no > sign > of Robert. In 1871 she is still at Nether Liberton and has yet another > son, > George. In 1881 Elizabeth was living with her daughter Marion (whose first > husband John Barclay died in 1875) and her second husband James Thomson. > > I cannot find Elizabeth after 1881 in theUK and nor is there a death entry > for her at Scotlands People. There isn't a birth entry either, nor a > marriage for her parents. Her brother John died in 1872 and his death > certificate names his parents as William SHIELL and Mary SHIELL, but I can > find nothing about either of them on SP or the censuses or the IGI. Maybe > they were non-conformists or something but that wouldn't explain why > there's > no death certificate for Elizabeth. > > And as for Robert - I don't know his age or birthplace so I have no hope > of > identifying him in the Statutory deaths. Robert and Elizabeth's daughters > were Mary (born 1841, married William ALLAN); Jane (born 1843, married > George THOMSON; Marion (born 1847, married John BARCLAY then James > THOMSON). > I can't find the sons George (b 1863) and William (b 1856) after the 1871 > census. In fact, I think George may be the illegitimate son of Elizabeth's > daughter Mary - the only possibility for George at SP was born August 1862 > and Mary didn't marry William ALLEN until May 1863. A son of the same > forename, age and birthplace shows up with Mary and William in 1881. > > Does anyone know anything about these people? Does Robert show up in a > directory somewhere perhaps, or on an MI? Does anyone have them in their > tree? > > Many thanks, > Loretta > Melbourne, Australia > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message