<<How old was she in 1901 and what was the family group?>> Robin, it's hard to read as it was crossed out several times, but she looks to be 33 years of age in 1901. <<So we would persevere with scotlandspeople and try as many variations as you can come up with. Working back in time step by step is essential to be sure the family is the same ..... We went off on a wrong trail for generations because we were not rigorous enough about which John B we were looking at .. Then a chance review 10 years later when the census index came available online showed us our mistake ..which we could have avoided in the first place.>> All right. I'll persevere with scotlandspeople. This choosing the wrong person is exactly what I am afraid of.... I did check the 1891 census for Daniel Ross (since I know his name and birthdate correctly from his birth and marriage certs). Mary would have been married to him for 5 years or so by then. And although there were 6 entries, none are correct. I did not restrict the search geographically at all. I also searched 1881 for Mary McNally, McNalley and McInally and there are none that fit. Any entry listed had parents that did not match either parent listed on her marriage certificate. I guess there could be errors with repsect to how old they were or said they were, so I'll need to go back and open up the search criteria, perhaps. <<Not sure you said where this family is .. Have you tried the Valuation rolls or local trade street directory ... We found a missing 1901 HIRD family in Dundee thanks to help from the Dundee City Library Local Studies Staff and I suspect there are similar great folk in Edinburgh Dalkeith or wherever your family should be.>> The family was in Uphall, WLN in 1901. The older children were born in West Calder WLN. On the 1901 census it lists that Mary was born in Barrhead, Renfrewshire. Are the valuation rolls at the National Archives? That sounds to be a good idea. I do know that Mary was listed as a Draper and owned her own shop. In fact my mother remebers seeing a photograph of her outside the shop (although the photo was lost). Alternately, is there a listing for Coal Miner's? My great grandfather rose quite high in the organizational side of that group. Is my best bet the National Archives? Thanks and best wishes, Allison

On 28/12/04 5:38 pm, "Allison Vidal" <allswell58@hotmail.com> wrote: > Are the valuation rolls at the National Archives? That sounds to be a good > idea. I do know that Mary was listed as a Draper and owned her own shop. > In fact my mother remebers seeing a photograph of her outside the shop > (although the photo was lost). Could be .. I look at the ones for Angus in the local central libraries (is Dundee or Arbroath) So for WLN try Blackburn .. See information on GENUKI at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/WLN/index.html And http://www.westlothian.gov.uk/content/leisure/libraries/104325/localhistory BTW where are you? We are only 30 miles from Uphall and have friends living in the next village of Dechmont. Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

On 28/12/04 5:38 pm, "Allison Vidal" <allswell58@hotmail.com> wrote: > The family was in Uphall, WLN in 1901. The older children were born in West > Calder WLN. Looks like you should be on the West Lothian list asking the folks there about your Uphall families And then try the Renfrewshire list too. Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland