I would like to thank everyone who has replied to my Posts, I sorry I not said who but i did not receive the replies but read them from browsing at the site, i am hoping that mail will start to come in as i have received one post from the list so will have to see (will also know from sending this) so many thanks, I now have to look at the census for 1891 & 1901 I also now know that Alexander's first wife died & that the 3 children on the 1881 census are his from that marriage I since found one child a Ann Brown Honeyman AITKEN born 8 June 1884 Main St West Calder the Ann Brown is after Alexander's mother Honeyman is after the mother of Ann (Alex's 2nd wife) so very nice of them to be considerate in their names lol, & of course looking for anyone who may have any connections to the family Regards Janice