A possibility that you might want to check out - the National Archives of Scotland has some files regarding a Duncan McCarter/McLearter who was tried for theft. The first file is from 1818 and he is listed as Duncan McLearter, alias McCarter, labourer and hawker, formerly seaman, Address: Glasgow (reference AD14/18/157). There are also two files from 1820 in which he is referred to as Duncan McCarter, Address: Edinburgh (reference AD14/20/85) and as Duncan McCarter, alias McArthur, travelling hawker, Address: Ayrshire (reference AD14/20/184). There is a record at Ancestry for a Duncan McCarter/McArthur who was convicted on 25 Apr 1826 in Glasgow and transported on 21 Sep 1826. The record says his sentence was life. Unfortunately it doesn't say how old that Duncan is in the NAS summaries or on the transportation record. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Ingalls Sent: June 18, 2010 10:45 AM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Irregularmarriages:DuncanM'CarterandElisabethSimpson Tony - I was able to find mention of mort cloths for Duncan's children, and a fee paid for his widow's grave digging in the Parish expenses, but there was never any mention of Duncan's passing. I find that odd because everyone else in the family is mentioned, but not him. Of course, a Catholic wouldn't be buried in the parish grave yard, would he? Or perhaps he died elsewhere (at sea?), so wasn't mentioned in the expenses. I had never made the connection to Catholicism before, and it gives me something to think about. I think I read somewhere that some Irish weavers were brought into the Dunbar area at one time to work in a new mill there. But, with the given name 'Duncan', he was probably not Irish. I've now begun to look for the families of the witnesses at his children's baptisms. Maybe that will shed a clue as to where Duncan came from originally. Thanks again. Lynne in Tucson

Further to my earlier post (below), that Duncan McCarter/McArthur was transported on the Albion. I found a convict death register entry in New South Wales for Duncan McArthur who was on the Albion. He died in a hospital on 17 Dec 1838 at the age of 62. That would give that Duncan a birth year pretty close to the year of the Duncan in the LDS family tree submission that I referred to. Jacquie -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jacquie Sent: June 18, 2010 3:38 PM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Duncan M'Carter A possibility that you might want to check out - the National Archives of Scotland has some files regarding a Duncan McCarter/McLearter who was tried for theft. The first file is from 1818 and he is listed as Duncan McLearter, alias McCarter, labourer and hawker, formerly seaman, Address: Glasgow (reference AD14/18/157). There are also two files from 1820 in which he is referred to as Duncan McCarter, Address: Edinburgh (reference AD14/20/85) and as Duncan McCarter, alias McArthur, travelling hawker, Address: Ayrshire (reference AD14/20/184). There is a record at Ancestry for a Duncan McCarter/McArthur who was convicted on 25 Apr 1826 in Glasgow and transported on 21 Sep 1826. The record says his sentence was life. Unfortunately it doesn't say how old that Duncan is in the NAS summaries or on the transportation record. Jacquie Winnipeg, MB Canada

You can buy the records from NAS. Contact them ask them for a quote - provide the file numbers. I got the Robert Mitchell/ Elizabeth Mitchell (court case, ordered and paid for within a day, and in the mail) I've ordered from them before, very good! Tammy On 18/06/2010 1:46 PM, Jacquie wrote: > Further to my earlier post (below), that Duncan McCarter/McArthur was > transported on the Albion. I found a convict death register entry in New > South Wales for Duncan McArthur who was on the Albion. He died in a hospital > on 17 Dec 1838 at the age of 62. That would give that Duncan a birth year > pretty close to the year of the Duncan in the LDS family tree submission > that I referred to. > > Jacquie > > -----Original Message----- > From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jacquie > Sent: June 18, 2010 3:38 PM > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Duncan M'Carter > > A possibility that you might want to check out - the National Archives of > Scotland has some files regarding a Duncan McCarter/McLearter who was tried > for theft. The first file is from 1818 and he is listed as Duncan McLearter, > alias McCarter, labourer and hawker, formerly seaman, Address: Glasgow > (reference AD14/18/157). There are also two files from 1820 in which he is > referred to as Duncan McCarter, Address: Edinburgh (reference AD14/20/85) > and as Duncan McCarter, alias McArthur, travelling hawker, Address: Ayrshire > (reference AD14/20/184). There is a record at Ancestry for a Duncan > McCarter/McArthur who was convicted on 25 Apr 1826 in Glasgow and > transported on 21 Sep 1826. The record says his sentence was life. > Unfortunately it doesn't say how old that Duncan is in the NAS summaries or > on the transportation record. > > Jacquie > Winnipeg, MB > Canada > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jacquie - I am just finding these records you mentioned. I had never looke at the NAS On-line Catalogue for Duncan McCarter. I suppose the 1818 Duncan McLearter file could refer to my Duncan McCarter expect it says he's from Glasgow. That's a bit of a trek from Whittingehame without a car. I suppose if he were a hawker, he could have traveled about, but his records show he was a labourer (probably agricultural). Of course, he could have been a lad of many professions. I will have to hunt around for other records of a Duncan McCarter/McLearter in the Glasgow area to either rule out or make a match. I'm slowly going thru the incredible amounts of information sent to me with regard to Duncan. I am feeling much more hopeful that I will find a connection somewhere. Thanks again for this tip. I may spend the day going the the NAS database! Lynne in Tucson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacquie" <jjjcmj@mymts.net> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Duncan M'Carter >A possibility that you might want to check out - the National Archives of > Scotland has some files regarding a Duncan McCarter/McLearter who was > tried > for theft. The first file is from 1818 and he is listed as Duncan > McLearter, > alias McCarter, labourer and hawker, formerly seaman, Address: Glasgow > (reference AD14/18/157). There are also two files from 1820 in which he is > referred to as Duncan McCarter, Address: Edinburgh (reference AD14/20/85) > and as Duncan McCarter, alias McArthur, travelling hawker, Address: > Ayrshire > (reference AD14/20/184). There is a record at Ancestry for a Duncan > McCarter/McArthur who was convicted on 25 Apr 1826 in Glasgow and > transported on 21 Sep 1826. The record says his sentence was life. > Unfortunately it doesn't say how old that Duncan is in the NAS summaries > or > on the transportation record. > > Jacquie > Winnipeg, MB > Canada