Transcribed from: History of the Regality of Musselburgh: with numerous extracts from the town ... By James Paterson In Memory of Archibald Christie Esq of Ratho, born 10th July 1706, died 16th March 1796. Also Anna Gordon his wife, grand-daughter of Sir James Gordon Baronet, of Lismore. Born 12th Jan. 1726 ; died 11th April 1810. Also to their children - Ann, born 8th Nov. 1767 ; died 4th Nov. 1838. Andrew, born 4th Oct 1763 ; died 9th Jan. 1841. my contribution to Ratho records. Tammy

I just checked at www.familysearch.org, and don't find a microfilm of kirk sessions for Ratho.    Mary --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Fionnghal <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Fionnghal <fionnghalnicphadraig@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Locating Ratho Records 1690-1737 To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 12:33 PM I've found Parish session records handy. They may not include BMDs but could well mention any disputes, bastardy orders, folk receiving parish relief. It might be worth a look.  All sorts of things come up in them though they may vary from parish to parish.  the LDS may have films of them which would allow you to have a good browse though the writing back then could be difficult to read. If he was Church of Scotland you may find some references to him + very often local tradesmen, especially those who have proven to be good, get asked to do work for the church, repairs, additions &c. so bills and costs may be mentioned. If it was me, I'd go for it.  If nothing else you'll get a picture of the life of the community back then :-) le durachd fionnghal > > Would there be other records for the time period, that I > may not know > about? Perhaps land ownership or tenantry? > I did see at the NAS there were the Ratho Parish Church > session records - what do you think would be within those, would there be > any BMD info?       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Info: Did know anything about Ratho so did a check which gave up some URLs with info on Ratho MLN and links https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/Ratho,_Midlothian,_Scotland http://tinyurl.com/yeo69e8 Bob Cdn ========================

Albert and Tammy, I also have been seeking records from Ratho's missing period 1690-Aug 173, searching for the ancestors & children of these two George Lauders. 25 May 1727 George Lauder & Elizabeth Brown married in Kirknewton/East Calder 22 Nov 1728 George Lauder & Jean Walker married in Ratho 6 May 1739 George Lauder born in Ratho parents: George Lauder & Elspeth Brown 3 Feb 1753 George Lauder born in Currie parents: George Lauder & Elizabeth Brown Curiously, ScotlandsPeople has the 1728 marriage of one George Lauder from Ratho's missing period, as it does for George Lauder & Eliz Brown's marriage in nearby Mid-Calder in 1727. Then it has the 1739 birth of George Lauder in Ratho, to that earlier George Lauder couple from Mid-Calder, which same couple then moved to Currie by 1753, I am trying to determine whether the same couple were pre-1739 parents to my gggg-grandfather Thomas Lauder, who married Margaret Aikman in Currie in 1765 & became a snuff miller in EastMiln in Kinleith, Currie until his death in 1804 There is a good possibility that such Lauders from around Ratho would be descendants of cadet branches from the Lauders of Haltoun, since the principle Haltoun estate was located at Ratho, although the main branch of that Lauder family had folded into the Maitland / Lauderdale family in the mid-1600s. Does anyone know whether the Lauder/Maitland family would have retained separate private records during that Ratho missing period which could somehow still be accessed? By the way, it was the grandson of this same Thomas Lauder, George Lauder (1815-1901) of Dunfermline, who founded Lauder College (recently changed to Carnegie College), in order to realize the dream of providing poor Scots a free education. William -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RussellAlb@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:14 PM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Locating Ratho Records 1690-1737 Tammy, unfortunately the records from March 1689 to August 1738 simply have not survived. (even the baptismal register prior to 1689 is only an 18th? century copy of the original). The registers must have been lost at some time before 1855. In that year, all the birth, death and marriage registers of the Church of Scotland up to 1854 were brought in to be preserved at the General Register Office. Albert In a message dated 11/11/2009 19:16:36 GMT Standard Time, ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca writes: My reason for writing, is to ask if there is any way to gain access to the Ratho records for the period of 1690-1737 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That's a shame, without these records, probably about two generations of families in that area may never get a chance to be accounted for in genealogical terms. This has the possibility of putting the brakes on many 'family trees' as far as researching back that far. Would there be other records for the time period, that I may not know about? Perhaps land ownership or tenantry? I did see at the NAS there were the Ratho Parish Church session records - what do you think would be within those, would there be any BMD info? Thanks (to all) Tammy RussellAlb@aol.com wrote: > > Tammy, > unfortunately the records from March 1689 to August 1738 simply have not > survived. > (even the baptismal register prior to 1689 is only an 18th? century copy > of the original). > > The registers must have been lost at some time before 1855. In that year, > all the birth, death and marriage registers of the Church of Scotland up to > 1854 were brought in to be preserved at the General Register Office. > > Albert > > > > In a message dated 11/11/2009 19:16:36 GMT Standard Time, > ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca writes: > > My reason for writing, is to ask if there is any way to gain access to > the Ratho records for the period of 1690-1737 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've read that sometims births, marriages and deaths were noted in Kirk sessions.  There are apparently Kirk session records for Ratho available, but only at NAS in Scotland.  Does anyone know of any other way to access those records? Mary in FL --- On Fri, 11/13/09, William Garner <william@wgarner.com> wrote: From: William Garner <william@wgarner.com> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Locating Ratho Records 1690-1738: George Lauder To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 8:20 AM Albert and Tammy, I also have been seeking records from Ratho's missing period 1690-Aug 173, searching for the ancestors & children of these two George Lauders. 25 May 1727    George Lauder & Elizabeth Brown married in Kirknewton/East Calder 22 Nov 1728 George Lauder & Jean Walker married in Ratho 6 May 1739    George Lauder born in Ratho        parents: George Lauder & Elspeth Brown 3 Feb 1753    George Lauder born in Currie         parents: George Lauder & Elizabeth Brown Curiously, ScotlandsPeople has the 1728 marriage of one George Lauder from Ratho's missing period, as it does for George Lauder & Eliz Brown's marriage in nearby Mid-Calder in 1727.  Then it has the 1739 birth of George Lauder in Ratho, to that earlier George Lauder couple from Mid-Calder, which same couple then moved to Currie by 1753,  I am trying to determine whether the same couple were pre-1739 parents to my gggg-grandfather Thomas Lauder, who married Margaret Aikman in Currie in 1765 & became a snuff miller in EastMiln in Kinleith, Currie until his death in 1804    There is a good possibility that such Lauders from around Ratho would be descendants of cadet branches from the Lauders of Haltoun, since the principle Haltoun estate was located at Ratho, although the main branch of that Lauder family had folded into the Maitland / Lauderdale family in the mid-1600s.  Does anyone know whether the Lauder/Maitland family would have retained separate private records during that Ratho missing period which could somehow still be accessed?  By the way, it was the grandson of this same Thomas Lauder, George Lauder (1815-1901) of Dunfermline, who founded Lauder College (recently changed to Carnegie College), in order to realize the dream of providing poor Scots a free education. William  -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of RussellAlb@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:14 PM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Locating Ratho Records 1690-1737 Tammy, unfortunately the records from March 1689 to August 1738 simply have not  survived. (even the baptismal register prior to 1689 is only an 18th?  century copy of the original). The registers must have been lost at some time before 1855. In that  year, all the birth, death and marriage registers of the Church of  Scotland up to 1854 were brought in to be preserved at the General  Register Office. Albert In a message dated 11/11/2009 19:16:36 GMT Standard Time,  ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca writes: My  reason for writing, is to ask if there is any way to gain access to the  Ratho records for the period of 1690-1737 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tammy, unfortunately the records from March 1689 to August 1738 simply have not survived. (even the baptismal register prior to 1689 is only an 18th? century copy of the original). The registers must have been lost at some time before 1855. In that year, all the birth, death and marriage registers of the Church of Scotland up to 1854 were brought in to be preserved at the General Register Office. Albert In a message dated 11/11/2009 19:16:36 GMT Standard Time, ancestry@ripandrevmedia.ca writes: My reason for writing, is to ask if there is any way to gain access to the Ratho records for the period of 1690-1737

hi Tammy, the Gentleman's mag can be very misleading from the way they arrange their dates. It's clear that in some cases they have only received entries some months after the event. I haven't seen your man's entry in their mag but i do have another which I'll send you off list. You may or may not have come on it before. it agrees with your mason dad and his uni education. le durachd Fionnghal > I believe the reason that most people put his death at 1738 > is because > apparently there was an announcement in Gentleman's > Magazine on 2 Feb. > 1738 that referenced Joseph's death.(I have not seen this > reference).

Correct Catherine! Tammy gave an excellent write-up on John and his sons. Scotland has admiration the world over for their education system. In later years Andrew Carnegie, the Philanthropist from Fife, ensured that boys from poor families could have a good education. To this day that is true. I have a friend who travels to China and Africa giving them the benefit of the Scottish education system. Scots - be proud! Sheila KC England. Catherine Fitchett wrote: > Not at all unlikely in Scotland. The Scots had a very positive > attitude to education, for all classes, and it was entirely possible > for the son of a tradesman or tenant farmer to attend university. I > don't have any references to hand, but there is plenty of information > on Scottish education available in many books and journals > > Catherine > > On 12/11/2009, at 9:00 PM, midlothian-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > >> Tammy: >> >> Are you certain that John's sons attended Edinburgh University? It >> would be >> highly unlikely that the sons of a tradesman would be accepted at >> University. More likely, they would follow in their father's >> footsteps, and >> be stone masons. >> >> Eileen >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

*In memory of those that fought for us, in any theatres of war, & have travelled their last journey - LEST WE FORGET Beth in Australia* Jim Williams wrote: > An Edinburgh man: > > Walter Chisholm Gracie > > Private, Royal Scots Fusiliers > > Killed in Action , Gaza, 19th April 1917, buried at CWG Cemetry Gaza, include with 400+ comrades > on the War Memorial at St Pats, in the Cowgate. > > We shall remember them, > > Jim Williams > > >> From: midlothian-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 193 >> To: midlothian@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:00:47 -0700 >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 (TRACY MCCALLUM) >> 2. Re: Remembrance Day / Armistice Day (Elizabeth Csanig) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:07:52 -0700 >> From: TRACY MCCALLUM <corsair@wildblue.net> >> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 >> To: midlothian@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <903e10b60911100607s81ae421v323c286f7b8f9e8e@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> My Scottish Grand-Aunt was Ellen Florence, but called Nellie, and her mother >> Emma, known in the family as Pemmy. Emma's mother Mary was called Polly, >> and her brothers Edward and Horatio were Ted and Tate, respectively >> >> Tracy McCallum >> New Mexico >> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:00 AM, <midlothian-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. nicknames (Lynn Bell) >>> 2. Re: nicknames (Moira Meek) >>> 3. Re: Scottish Nicknames (MMayn93990@aol.com) >>> 4. Re: nicknames (Liz Dempster) >>> 5. Nicknames (Mary McLaren) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:54:23 -0000 >>> From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> >>> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >>> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <87FC819775804CDFBBBF6675B0236974@OwnerPC> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite >>> bugbear is Elisabeth. >>> E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, >>> Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or Lisbet. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:14:43 -0000 >>> From: "Moira Meek" <mbmeek@btinternet.com> >>> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >>> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <C9F7543C4AF041108A89C0EEAA37CBE8@MoiraPC> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> When I was a child my mother whose name was Eliza used to tease me with the >>> rhyme: >>> >>> Elizabeth, Eliza, Betsy and Bess >>> went down to the river to herry a nest >>> The nest had four eggs >>> they each took one >>> How many eggs were left? >>> >>> She said their were three eggs left because it was the same girl using >>> variations of her name >>> >>> Moira >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> >>> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:54 AM >>> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite >>>> bugbear is Elisabeth. >>>> E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, >>>> Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or >>>> >>> Lisbet. >>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:18:50 EST >>> From: MMayn93990@aol.com >>> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish Nicknames >>> To: midlothian@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <cf3.63fc96f8.3829e13a@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>> >>> Nancy was a nickname for Ann/Anne >>> >>> Mary Slack Maynard >>> North Georgia Mountains >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:34:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> cfitchett@paradise.net.nz writes: >>> >>> In Scotland I have also come across Sadie for Sarah, Agnes was often >>> Nan or Nancy, Margaret may become Peggy. I too, have come across Polly >>> for Mary. >>> Minnie can be either Marion or Jemima (possibly also Wilhelmina). >>> Jemima can also be "Mima". >>> One of the stranger (to me) name variants was Grizel/Grace. I'm not >>> sure this is so much a nickname as a change of fashion - Grizel being >>> the older form, and Grace more modern. One of my greatgrandmother's >>> sisters was baptised in the 1820s as Grizel but at her marriage and in >>> all census records was known as Grace. >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/2009, at 9:00 PM, midlothian-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:31:35 EST >>>> From: MMayn93990@aol.com >>>> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish nick names >>>> To: midlothian@rootsweb.com >>>> Message-ID: <bbb.5d3b89c8.38239307@aol.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>>> >>>> Also, a woman named Ellen was called Helen. >>>> >>>> I don't know if this was true in Scotland, but in the US Sally was a >>>> nickname for Sarah >>>> >>>> Mary Slack Maynard >>>> North Georgia Mountains >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject >>> and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:44:54 -0500 >>> From: "Liz Dempster" <germic90@sympatico.ca> >>> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >>> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP551B71CE4B4EEBAC2FF79AAFAC0@phx.gbl> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> My grandmother was Elizebeth, her first daughter was Elizebeth and they >>> were >>> both called Lil....I always thought they were both Lillians didn't know my >>> aunt was Elizebeth until she was about 80 yrs old! >>> >>> Liz Dempster >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> >>> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:54 AM >>> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >>> >>> >>> >>>> I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite >>>> bugbear is Elisabeth. >>>> E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, >>>> Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or >>>> >>> Lisbet. >>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:19:55 -0800 >>> From: "Mary McLaren" <r.mclaren@telus.net> >>> Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Nicknames >>> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> >>> Message-ID: <88BB4B2119794C02983B12E299889DA8@home5ea1c5e90a> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Is the name Senga still used in place of Agnes ? I've been away from >>> Scotland for forty years but remember it was common when I was going to >>> school . Surely it must be one of the few places to spell a name backwards >>> ! >>> >>> Mary McLaren >>> BC Canada >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To contact the MIDLOTHIAN list administrator, send an email to >>> MIDLOTHIAN-admin@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> To post a message to the MIDLOTHIAN mailing list, send an email to >>> MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >>> of the >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 >>> ****************************************** >>> >>> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:19:03 -0500 >> From: "Elizabeth Csanig" <wehc@can.rogers.com> >> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Remembrance Day / Armistice Day >> To: <CAN-ONT-YORK@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: sct-stirlingshire@rootsweb.com, SCOTLAND EDINBURGH >> <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com>, MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com, >> SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com, LANARK@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR >> <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>, MIGEN <MIGEN@rootsweb.com>, >> CAN-ONT-PEEL@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <AE9414E281154251A4174DE5ACB70AED@ibm1> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" >> >> Dear Fellow Listers, >> >> Remembering our fallen heroes on Remembrance Day; >> >> ****************************************************************************************************************************************** >> L. 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Sqdn. >> >> Killed in action in West Germany, buried in Becklingen War Cemetery, Germany. >> >> ******************************************************************************************************************************************* >> >> Pte. George Galloway Maxwell 1895 - 25 July 1916 >> >> Royal Warwickshire Regiment, >> >> Died from wounds in the Battle of the Somme, France, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. >> >> ******************************************************************************************************************************************* >> >> Pte. Jasper Alexander Williamson Thomson 1897 - 4 August 1917 >> >> 13th. (Princess Louises Kensington Bn.) London Regiment, >> >> Died at Colchester Military Hospital, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. >> >> ****************************************************************************************************************************************** >> >> All cousins I never knew. 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Tammy: Are you certain that John's sons attended Edinburgh University? It would be highly unlikely that the sons of a tradesman would be accepted at University. More likely, they would follow in their father's footsteps, and be stone masons. Eileen > I'm disappointed that there does not seem to be any records available > for Ratho, during the time that John Mitchell (stone mason) was creating > his family. > > John's oldest son was Joseph Mitchell, born about 1695. He had a son > named John born 1700. Both son's attended Edinburgh University. John b > 1700 died at age 19 in January 1719. There was also at least one other > son in the family, who raised his family in Fife. >

Hi Eileen, Yes, I'm sure. John was a very popular stone mason, good at his trade, and worked for both farmers and Heritors in Ratho and surrounding Parish's. He did work for the Earls of Stair, and Lauderdale. It is believed that it was thru this type of patronage that John was able to send his children to school. The oldest of his son's was Joseph Mitchell Poet of Ratho. Most have his dates as 1684-1738. I have recently recieved a document from the Edinburgh University, that has John Graham, schoolmaster of Ratho for a span of 40 years, placing his birth at 1695 and death at 1737. I believe the reason that most people put his death at 1738 is because apparently there was an announcement in Gentleman's Magazine on 2 Feb. 1738 that referenced Joseph's death.(I have not seen this reference). Joseph went to school to be a man of the cloth, he studied philosophy, and the arts. The arts won. He became more of a 'political writer' in London, as he tried to write in favor of various politicians of the time, in hopes of receiving monetary gain. I've seen that the records are available for Ratho, for other time periods. However the exact time period that I'm interested in is 1690-1737 and from what I can tell on IGI, there are no films of records for this timeperiod, neither on Scotlands People. I'm wondering if anyone will know where I can get to records for these years. I have the Vital Records British Isles 2nd edition, and there are no records on there for this time period. I know there was at least 3 sons, and I know there was at least one sister, because the term sister was used in one Josephs poems. Thanks for replying, and giving me the chance to explain. Tammy Eileen Herkes wrote: > Tammy: > > Are you certain that John's sons attended Edinburgh University? It > would be highly unlikely that the sons of a tradesman would be > accepted at University. More likely, they would follow in their > father's footsteps, and be stone masons. > > Eileen > > > >> I'm disappointed that there does not seem to be any records available >> for Ratho, during the time that John Mitchell (stone mason) was creating >> his family. >> >> John's oldest son was Joseph Mitchell, born about 1695. He had a son >> named John born 1700. Both son's attended Edinburgh University. John b >> 1700 died at age 19 in January 1719. There was also at least one other >> son in the family, who raised his family in Fife. >> >

Hi List. I'm disappointed that there does not seem to be any records available for Ratho, during the time that John Mitchell (stone mason) was creating his family. John's oldest son was Joseph Mitchell, born about 1695. He had a son named John born 1700. Both son's attended Edinburgh University. John b 1700 died at age 19 in January 1719. There was also at least one other son in the family, who raised his family in Fife. A descendant of the family, William Mitchell was known as a preacher, son of a farmer at Duniface, Fife. I read a letter he wrote in 1797, and gave his location as Duniface Fife. My reason for writing, is to ask if there is any way to gain access to the Ratho records for the period of 1690-1737 Joseph was known to have died in 1737, he lived as a poet in London, however I'm wondering if he was buried in London or Ratho, I can't really find records for either. Joseph did have a daughter named Charlotte, born about 1723 in London. Thanks in advace Tammy Mitchell

An Edinburgh man: Walter Chisholm Gracie Private, Royal Scots Fusiliers Killed in Action , Gaza, 19th April 1917, buried at CWG Cemetry Gaza, include with 400+ comrades on the War Memorial at St Pats, in the Cowgate. We shall remember them, Jim Williams > From: midlothian-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 193 > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:00:47 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 (TRACY MCCALLUM) > 2. Re: Remembrance Day / Armistice Day (Elizabeth Csanig) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:07:52 -0700 > From: TRACY MCCALLUM <corsair@wildblue.net> > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <903e10b60911100607s81ae421v323c286f7b8f9e8e@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > My Scottish Grand-Aunt was Ellen Florence, but called Nellie, and her mother > Emma, known in the family as Pemmy. Emma's mother Mary was called Polly, > and her brothers Edward and Horatio were Ted and Tate, respectively > > Tracy McCallum > New Mexico > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:00 AM, <midlothian-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. nicknames (Lynn Bell) > > 2. Re: nicknames (Moira Meek) > > 3. Re: Scottish Nicknames (MMayn93990@aol.com) > > 4. Re: nicknames (Liz Dempster) > > 5. Nicknames (Mary McLaren) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:54:23 -0000 > > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <87FC819775804CDFBBBF6675B0236974@OwnerPC> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > > bugbear is Elisabeth. > > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or Lisbet. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:14:43 -0000 > > From: "Moira Meek" <mbmeek@btinternet.com> > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <C9F7543C4AF041108A89C0EEAA37CBE8@MoiraPC> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > When I was a child my mother whose name was Eliza used to tease me with the > > rhyme: > > > > Elizabeth, Eliza, Betsy and Bess > > went down to the river to herry a nest > > The nest had four eggs > > they each took one > > How many eggs were left? > > > > She said their were three eggs left because it was the same girl using > > variations of her name > > > > Moira > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:54 AM > > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > > > > > >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > > >bugbear is Elisabeth. > > > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > > > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or > > Lisbet. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:18:50 EST > > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish Nicknames > > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <cf3.63fc96f8.3829e13a@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Nancy was a nickname for Ann/Anne > > > > Mary Slack Maynard > > North Georgia Mountains > > > > > > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:34:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > cfitchett@paradise.net.nz writes: > > > > In Scotland I have also come across Sadie for Sarah, Agnes was often > > Nan or Nancy, Margaret may become Peggy. I too, have come across Polly > > for Mary. > > Minnie can be either Marion or Jemima (possibly also Wilhelmina). > > Jemima can also be "Mima". > > One of the stranger (to me) name variants was Grizel/Grace. I'm not > > sure this is so much a nickname as a change of fashion - Grizel being > > the older form, and Grace more modern. One of my greatgrandmother's > > sisters was baptised in the 1820s as Grizel but at her marriage and in > > all census records was known as Grace. > > > > > > On 5/11/2009, at 9:00 PM, midlothian-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:31:35 EST > > > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish nick names > > > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: <bbb.5d3b89c8.38239307@aol.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > Also, a woman named Ellen was called Helen. > > > > > > I don't know if this was true in Scotland, but in the US Sally was a > > > nickname for Sarah > > > > > > Mary Slack Maynard > > > North Georgia Mountains > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject > > and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:44:54 -0500 > > From: "Liz Dempster" <germic90@sympatico.ca> > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP551B71CE4B4EEBAC2FF79AAFAC0@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > My grandmother was Elizebeth, her first daughter was Elizebeth and they > > were > > both called Lil....I always thought they were both Lillians didn't know my > > aunt was Elizebeth until she was about 80 yrs old! > > > > Liz Dempster > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:54 AM > > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > > > > > >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > > >bugbear is Elisabeth. > > > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > > > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or > > Lisbet. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:19:55 -0800 > > From: "Mary McLaren" <r.mclaren@telus.net> > > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Nicknames > > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <88BB4B2119794C02983B12E299889DA8@home5ea1c5e90a> > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Is the name Senga still used in place of Agnes ? I've been away from > > Scotland for forty years but remember it was common when I was going to > > school . Surely it must be one of the few places to spell a name backwards > > ! > > > > Mary McLaren > > BC Canada > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the MIDLOTHIAN list administrator, send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the MIDLOTHIAN mailing list, send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 > > ****************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:19:03 -0500 > From: "Elizabeth Csanig" <wehc@can.rogers.com> > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Remembrance Day / Armistice Day > To: <CAN-ONT-YORK@rootsweb.com> > Cc: sct-stirlingshire@rootsweb.com, SCOTLAND EDINBURGH > <SCT-EDINBURGH@rootsweb.com>, MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com, > SCT-RENFREW@rootsweb.com, LANARK@rootsweb.com, NYNEWYOR > <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>, MIGEN <MIGEN@rootsweb.com>, > CAN-ONT-PEEL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <AE9414E281154251A4174DE5ACB70AED@ibm1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Dear Fellow Listers, > > Remembering our fallen heroes on Remembrance Day; > > ****************************************************************************************************************************************** > L. Cpl. Arthur Charles Cooper 22 March 1893 - 25 September 1918 > > Army, Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment) 20th. Bn. > > Killed in action in France, buried in Sun Quarry Cemetery, Cherisy, France. > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > F. Sgt. (W.o./ Air Gnr.) Edwin Karl Vickers 2 June 1913 - 14 september 1941 > > Royal Canadian Air Force 406 Sqdn. > > Killed in action in Acklington, England, buried in Chevington Cemetery, Northumberland, U.K. > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > F. Lt. (Nav.) Allan Jerry Vickers 1919 - 22 February 1945 > > Royal Canadian Air Force 487 (R.N.Z.A.F.) Sqdn. > > Killed in action in West Germany, buried in Becklingen War Cemetery, Germany. > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > Pte. George Galloway Maxwell 1895 - 25 July 1916 > > Royal Warwickshire Regiment, > > Died from wounds in the Battle of the Somme, France, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > Pte. Jasper Alexander Williamson Thomson 1897 - 4 August 1917 > > 13th. (Princess Louises Kensington Bn.) London Regiment, > > Died at Colchester Military Hospital, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. > > ****************************************************************************************************************************************** > > All cousins I never knew. God bless all our allied soldiers! > Kind regards > > Elizabeth > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MIDLOTHIAN list administrator, send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MIDLOTHIAN mailing list, send an email to MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 193 > ****************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Got more than one Hotmail account? Save time by linking them together http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/186394591/direct/01/

Dear Fellow Listers, Remembering our fallen heroes on Remembrance Day; ****************************************************************************************************************************************** L. Cpl. Arthur Charles Cooper 22 March 1893 - 25 September 1918 Army, Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regiment) 20th. Bn. Killed in action in France, buried in Sun Quarry Cemetery, Cherisy, France. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* F. Sgt. (W.o./ Air Gnr.) Edwin Karl Vickers 2 June 1913 - 14 september 1941 Royal Canadian Air Force 406 Sqdn. Killed in action in Acklington, England, buried in Chevington Cemetery, Northumberland, U.K. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* F. Lt. (Nav.) Allan Jerry Vickers 1919 - 22 February 1945 Royal Canadian Air Force 487 (R.N.Z.A.F.) Sqdn. Killed in action in West Germany, buried in Becklingen War Cemetery, Germany. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pte. George Galloway Maxwell 1895 - 25 July 1916 Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Died from wounds in the Battle of the Somme, France, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. ******************************************************************************************************************************************* Pte. Jasper Alexander Williamson Thomson 1897 - 4 August 1917 13th. (Princess Louises Kensington Bn.) London Regiment, Died at Colchester Military Hospital, buried in Polmont Cemetery, Stirlingshire, Scotland. ****************************************************************************************************************************************** All cousins I never knew. God bless all our allied soldiers! Kind regards Elizabeth

My Scottish Grand-Aunt was Ellen Florence, but called Nellie, and her mother Emma, known in the family as Pemmy. Emma's mother Mary was called Polly, and her brothers Edward and Horatio were Ted and Tate, respectively Tracy McCallum New Mexico On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:00 AM, <midlothian-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. nicknames (Lynn Bell) > 2. Re: nicknames (Moira Meek) > 3. Re: Scottish Nicknames (MMayn93990@aol.com) > 4. Re: nicknames (Liz Dempster) > 5. Nicknames (Mary McLaren) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:54:23 -0000 > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <87FC819775804CDFBBBF6675B0236974@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > bugbear is Elisabeth. > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or Lisbet. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:14:43 -0000 > From: "Moira Meek" <mbmeek@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C9F7543C4AF041108A89C0EEAA37CBE8@MoiraPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > When I was a child my mother whose name was Eliza used to tease me with the > rhyme: > > Elizabeth, Eliza, Betsy and Bess > went down to the river to herry a nest > The nest had four eggs > they each took one > How many eggs were left? > > She said their were three eggs left because it was the same girl using > variations of her name > > Moira > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:54 AM > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > > >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > >bugbear is Elisabeth. > > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or > Lisbet. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 16:18:50 EST > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish Nicknames > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cf3.63fc96f8.3829e13a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Nancy was a nickname for Ann/Anne > > Mary Slack Maynard > North Georgia Mountains > > > In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:34:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > cfitchett@paradise.net.nz writes: > > In Scotland I have also come across Sadie for Sarah, Agnes was often > Nan or Nancy, Margaret may become Peggy. I too, have come across Polly > for Mary. > Minnie can be either Marion or Jemima (possibly also Wilhelmina). > Jemima can also be "Mima". > One of the stranger (to me) name variants was Grizel/Grace. I'm not > sure this is so much a nickname as a change of fashion - Grizel being > the older form, and Grace more modern. One of my greatgrandmother's > sisters was baptised in the 1820s as Grizel but at her marriage and in > all census records was known as Grace. > > > On 5/11/2009, at 9:00 PM, midlothian-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:31:35 EST > > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish nick names > > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > > Message-ID: <bbb.5d3b89c8.38239307@aol.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > Also, a woman named Ellen was called Helen. > > > > I don't know if this was true in Scotland, but in the US Sally was a > > nickname for Sarah > > > > Mary Slack Maynard > > North Georgia Mountains > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:44:54 -0500 > From: "Liz Dempster" <germic90@sympatico.ca> > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP551B71CE4B4EEBAC2FF79AAFAC0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > My grandmother was Elizebeth, her first daughter was Elizebeth and they > were > both called Lil....I always thought they were both Lillians didn't know my > aunt was Elizebeth until she was about 80 yrs old! > > Liz Dempster > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:54 AM > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames > > > >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite > >bugbear is Elisabeth. > > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or > Lisbet. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:19:55 -0800 > From: "Mary McLaren" <r.mclaren@telus.net> > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Nicknames > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <88BB4B2119794C02983B12E299889DA8@home5ea1c5e90a> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Is the name Senga still used in place of Agnes ? I've been away from > Scotland for forty years but remember it was common when I was going to > school . Surely it must be one of the few places to spell a name backwards > ! > > Mary McLaren > BC Canada > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the MIDLOTHIAN list administrator, send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the MIDLOTHIAN mailing list, send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of MIDLOTHIAN Digest, Vol 4, Issue 192 > ****************************************** >

Is the name Senga still used in place of Agnes ? I've been away from Scotland for forty years but remember it was common when I was going to school . Surely it must be one of the few places to spell a name backwards ! Mary McLaren BC Canada

My grandmother was Elizebeth, her first daughter was Elizebeth and they were both called Lil....I always thought they were both Lillians didn't know my aunt was Elizebeth until she was about 80 yrs old! Liz Dempster ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 6:54 AM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite >bugbear is Elisabeth. > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or Lisbet. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nancy was a nickname for Ann/Anne Mary Slack Maynard North Georgia Mountains In a message dated 11/6/2009 3:34:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cfitchett@paradise.net.nz writes: In Scotland I have also come across Sadie for Sarah, Agnes was often Nan or Nancy, Margaret may become Peggy. I too, have come across Polly for Mary. Minnie can be either Marion or Jemima (possibly also Wilhelmina). Jemima can also be "Mima". One of the stranger (to me) name variants was Grizel/Grace. I'm not sure this is so much a nickname as a change of fashion - Grizel being the older form, and Grace more modern. One of my greatgrandmother's sisters was baptised in the 1820s as Grizel but at her marriage and in all census records was known as Grace. On 5/11/2009, at 9:00 PM, midlothian-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:31:35 EST > From: MMayn93990@aol.com > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Scottish nick names > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bbb.5d3b89c8.38239307@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Also, a woman named Ellen was called Helen. > > I don't know if this was true in Scotland, but in the US Sally was a > nickname for Sarah > > Mary Slack Maynard > North Georgia Mountains > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When I was a child my mother whose name was Eliza used to tease me with the rhyme: Elizabeth, Eliza, Betsy and Bess went down to the river to herry a nest The nest had four eggs they each took one How many eggs were left? She said their were three eggs left because it was the same girl using variations of her name Moira ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Bell" <lynnbell@supanet.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:54 AM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] nicknames >I have been watching this post with interest for some time, my favourite >bugbear is Elisabeth. > E**** gets Ella, Eliza, Elspit, Elspeth, Elly, but fails to pick up Beth, > Betty, Bessy, Betsy, Biff, Lisa, Liza, Lis, Liz, Lissy, Lilabet or Lisbet. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >