I'd like to add, with a digital camera, they can take a nice picture of the record! Tammy Canada frank wrote: > Hi Bob: > > > > ScotlandsPeople only provide the birth Registration up to 1909 (for privacy > issues) for the amount of 5 credits. I have never ordered the 10 pound copy > as I think it is an official "Extract". I would prefer to send the 10 > pounds to someone who is willing to go to the Registry and pay 10 pounds for > a days research. They cannot copy a copy of the birth registration but they > can look at it on the computer screen and make notes. They can look at a lot > of birth registrations for the 10 pounds. > > > > Now to Gibson's. I have the following Gibson's on my tree > > > > 1. George, Alfred GIBSON- (b.1 Sep 1916-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland d.27 > Oct 1957-Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland) > > sp: Mary CRAWFORD- (m.10 Jan 1942) > > |-2. Helen, Lawson, Campbell GIBSON- (b.27 Nov > 1943-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) > > | sp: David, Hadden YOUNG- (m.14 Sep 1963) > > |-2. Margaret Campbell GIBSON- (b.3 Oct > 1946-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) > > +-2. Mary, Crawford GIBSON- (b.21 Oct 1951-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) > > sp: Derek, Peter KEENAN- (m.1973) > > > > They are offshoots of my Campbell line so I have nothing on the Gibson line. > I also have a number of Gibson's on my Irish Weir line if you are > interested. > > > > Regards > > Frank Easton > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robertgascoigne > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:00 PM > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Albert V T Gibson > > > > Hello List > > > > I found the above person born in 1953 , and they asked for 10 pounds for > the copy, am I doing something wrong. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List I found the above person born in 1953 , and they asked for 10 pounds for the copy, am I doing something wrong. Next question does any one on the list have Gibson's on their tree, that perhaps we could exchange the little information I have on this Gibson Line All the Albert Victor Tait Gibson's I have found have been English ,until I found this one born St Andrews, Edinburgh. Bob

Hi Bob: ScotlandsPeople only provide the birth Registration up to 1909 (for privacy issues) for the amount of 5 credits. I have never ordered the 10 pound copy as I think it is an official "Extract". I would prefer to send the 10 pounds to someone who is willing to go to the Registry and pay 10 pounds for a days research. They cannot copy a copy of the birth registration but they can look at it on the computer screen and make notes. They can look at a lot of birth registrations for the 10 pounds. Now to Gibson's. I have the following Gibson's on my tree 1. George, Alfred GIBSON- (b.1 Sep 1916-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland d.27 Oct 1957-Edinburgh,Midlothian,Scotland) sp: Mary CRAWFORD- (m.10 Jan 1942) |-2. Helen, Lawson, Campbell GIBSON- (b.27 Nov 1943-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) | sp: David, Hadden YOUNG- (m.14 Sep 1963) |-2. Margaret Campbell GIBSON- (b.3 Oct 1946-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) +-2. Mary, Crawford GIBSON- (b.21 Oct 1951-Newbattle,Midlothian,Scotland) sp: Derek, Peter KEENAN- (m.1973) They are offshoots of my Campbell line so I have nothing on the Gibson line. I also have a number of Gibson's on my Irish Weir line if you are interested. Regards Frank Easton -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robertgascoigne Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 1:00 PM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Albert V T Gibson Hello List I found the above person born in 1953 , and they asked for 10 pounds for the copy, am I doing something wrong.

Hello Bob Glad to be able to help. Just thought you might like to know that Ancestry transcribed the family as 'MINNICH' and Walter as 41 years old! The original was pretty difficult to read. I will send you the original image off-list. Best wishes Rhoda

Hello again Bob I have been unable to find a Walter KINNAIRD of any age living in Edinburgh in the 1871 Ancestry-transcribed census. However I think I found the family in the 1871 Census on Scotlands People. The image is exceedingly difficult to read and Ancestry may have had problems in transcribing it. This is my attempt at transcribing the image: This family was living at 17 Canning Street (not Place), Edinburgh. They were: ? KINNAIRD (no relationship given), W[idow], 55, born Peebles. ? [could be Jane] KINNAIRD, daughter, unmarried, 17, family? shop girl, born Edinburgh St Cuthberts Thomas KINNAIRD, son, 13, born Edinburgh St Cuthberts Walter KINNAIRD, son, 10, born Edinburgh St Cuthberts [the mother's name is almost indecipherable but having now looked at Walter's birth certificate (see below), it is definitely 'Marion']. I have just had a look for Walter's birth certificate: he was born Walter Dickson KINNAIRD on 9th July 1860 at George Watson's Hospital Lodge, Lauriston Place, Edinburgh. His parents were Robert KINNAIRD, janitor, George Watson's Hospital (a very well-known Edinburgh school) and Marion DICKSON. So this family do not appear to have been related to your David Hay KINNAIRD, unless Marion remarried to someone bearing the same surname as her first husband. The death of a Robert KINNAIRD aged 54 was registered in the Newington district of Edinburgh in 1869. Rhoda

Hello Bob It would help if you could give dates and places of birth for all members of the family. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 1:29 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] KINNAIRD > Hello List > > I am seeking a Kinnaird family who in the 1870 time period were living > at 17 Canning Place, Edinburgh . The Father David Hay Kinnaird was not > present as he was shown on the 1881 census as a Royal Marine lodging in > Devonport, Devon. The wife was living in Edinburgh with the two children > ,The wife was Jane ? Kinnaird and the two boy's were Walter and Thomas, I > have searched Ancestry census records without finding a trace of this > family.

Hello again Rhoda You seem to always be able to help me out, Thank you so much for the information . I was in Scotland in March and picked up a copy of a court case from West Register House. The court case was who was the heir to Alexander Redpath of High Street ,Edinburgh, he was the nephew of Janet Kinnaird, All parties were named on the Kinnaird side as she was the wife of Thomas Kinnaird. All the children of Janet were named as well as husbands and wives. David Hay Kinnaird was the son of Robert Kinnaird and Marion Dickson, so not the father to Thomas and Walter and not the Husband of Jane but the brother to them , the problem was how they were given in the summation of the case. The case gave no ages for any of the people involved. It took three years to find the paperwork on the case, I searched the Scotsman Archives for Jacobina Kinnaird and this case came up , a very kind list member was able to send me the full transcript of the Scotsman article and told me to try the library on George the Fourth Bridge they said they did not have it. I eventually found out about West Register House but had to wait till I could go there in Person as they have no email address. Again Thank you so Much Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "CandROverson" <overson12@btinternet.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 12:44 PM To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] KINNAIRD: 1871 Census > Hello again Bob > > I have been unable to find a Walter KINNAIRD of any age living in > Edinburgh > in the 1871 Ancestry-transcribed census. However I think I found the > family > in the 1871 Census on Scotlands People. The image is exceedingly > difficult > to read and Ancestry may have had problems in transcribing it. This is my > attempt at transcribing the image: > > This family was living at 17 Canning Street (not Place), Edinburgh. They > were: > > ? KINNAIRD (no relationship given), W[idow], 55, born Peebles. > ? [could be Jane] KINNAIRD, daughter, unmarried, 17, family? shop girl, > born > Edinburgh St Cuthberts > Thomas KINNAIRD, son, 13, born Edinburgh St Cuthberts > Walter KINNAIRD, son, 10, born Edinburgh St Cuthberts > > [the mother's name is almost indecipherable but having now looked at > Walter's birth certificate (see below), it is definitely 'Marion']. > > I have just had a look for Walter's birth certificate: he was born Walter > Dickson KINNAIRD on 9th July 1860 at George Watson's Hospital Lodge, > Lauriston Place, Edinburgh. His parents were Robert KINNAIRD, janitor, > George Watson's Hospital (a very well-known Edinburgh school) and Marion > DICKSON. So this family do not appear to have been related to your David > Hay KINNAIRD, unless Marion remarried to someone bearing the same surname > as > her first husband. The death of a Robert KINNAIRD aged 54 was registered > in > the Newington district of Edinburgh in 1869. > > Rhoda > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

An ancestor is given in an Edinburgh Commissary Court testament of 1727 as being a weaver in Ballup. I have searched for this place, but have been unable to trace it. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Roddy

Hello List I am seeking a Kinnaird family who in the 1870 time period were living at 17 Canning Place, Edinburgh . The Father David Hay Kinnaird was not present as he was shown on the 1881 census as a Royal Marine lodging in Devonport, Devon. The wife was living in Edinburgh with the two children ,The wife was Jane ? Kinnaird and the two boy's were Walter and Thomas, I have searched Ancestry census records without finding a trace of this family. My hope is that another Kinnaird researcher might have found them while searching. I have I think Kinnaird descendants of Thomas Kinnaird and Janet Redpath. Bob

Found the following marriage LDS/BIVRI2 data. No records for the kids in this file. Give the fathers names. Bob Cdn. ----------- LAIN, William Age: 21 Marriage Wife: Frances ROBSON Age: 20 Marriage Date: 22 Jun 1862 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England Collection: All Saints Husband's Father: John LAIN Wife's Father: Samuel ROBSON Source: FHL Film 1068970 Dates: 1862 - 1862 ============= *Interested in Irish Genealogy :* Visit Bob's Genealogy Website <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Ehiflyte/> Visit IGPA's Website <http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/>

Hello again, Avril Just found William Lain on an Ancestry tree. There is not a lot of information about him other than he married a Frances Robson in Newcastle upon Tyne on 22 June 1862 in Alls Saints Church, Newcastle.. So the family may have moved from Edinburgh to Newcastle (see my earlier email today about John Lain). The owner of the tree lives in Northumberland and "last logged in over 6 months ago", suggesting that he/she may have dropped their Ancestry subscription. They have not entered any information about siblings or parents of either William or his wife. Rhoda

Avril I just had another look for your Lain family in the 1851 Census and still couldn't find them. But I see that John Lain snr was a Butler so I suppose he may have moved back South or perhaps elsewhere within the UK. I had a look in the 1861 Census and found what may be John Lain junior living in Newcastle upon Tyne with his wife Hannah. A John Lain married in Newcastle upon Tyne in 1857. Unfortunately Free BMD has not transcribed his wife. 8 Snowdon (?) Street, St Andrews Parish, Newcastle upon Tyne John LAIN, 27, Head, born Edinburgh, french polisher. Hannah LAIN, 27, wife, born Hartlepool, Co Durham Margaret A Bone, visitor, 15, servant, born Newcastle upon Tyne I can't find him in 1871. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "avril lacey" <chidham_1762@yahoo.co.uk> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census Hello Rhoda Apologies for not replying until now. I have only just been able to check my emails as i have been away and have also had problems with my internet connection. Thank you very much for taking the trouble to look up this information for me Kind regards Avril --- On Sat, 3/4/10, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> wrote: From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 3 April, 2010, 12:52 Hello Avril I have been unable to find the birth on the Scotlands People birth index (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk). As the parents were both English-born, it is likely that had the children baptised in a Church other than the Church of Scotland. The baptism registers on the Scotlands People website are those of the Church of Scotland. However the Deaths and Burials Index (pre-1855) lists the deaths in the St Cuthbert's Parish of Edinburgh of Alexander Wood Lain (1843) and Grace Hill Lain (1844). I had a look at the image relating to Grace. She was the daughter of John Lain and died of fever at 9 Haugh Street, Edinburgh on 1 October 1844. She was 14. There was one other Lain listed in Edinburgh. A Janet Lain who died in 1844. I couldn't find John Lain or his wife Helen on the statutory registers death index (1855 onwards). So they either died before 1855 and are not on the index, or they didn't die in Scotland. I will send you the image of Grace's entry in the death register off-list. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "avril lacey" <chidham_1762@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census I recently sent an message containing the wrong dates relating to William Lain. Apologies for that. The followoing is what should have been sent: According to the 1841 census, William Lain is recorded as 10 months old and living in 12 Hermitage Place, St Cuthbert's - Midlothian. ( father John Lain and mother Helen) I need to get information regarding his birth. If anyone is researching this time period in the relevant parish registers, would it be possible for them to look up this information, as they are doing their own research? I have also drawn a blank for the whole of the family in the 1851 census - so any helpful pointers would be very much appreciated I live in Plymouth, and am happy to look up records in my local library if this is helpful to anyone. Kind regards Avril ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Rhoda   Apologies for not replying until now. I have only just been able to check my emails as i have been away and have also had problems with my internet connection.   Thank you very much for taking the trouble to look up this information for me   Kind regards   Avril --- On Sat, 3/4/10, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> wrote: From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 3 April, 2010, 12:52 Hello Avril I have been unable to find the birth on the Scotlands People birth index (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk).  As the parents were both English-born, it is likely that had the children baptised in a Church other than the Church of Scotland. The baptism registers on the Scotlands People website are those of the Church of Scotland. However the Deaths and Burials Index (pre-1855) lists the deaths in the St Cuthbert's Parish of Edinburgh of Alexander Wood Lain (1843) and Grace Hill Lain (1844). I had a look at the image relating to Grace. She was the daughter of John Lain and died of fever at 9 Haugh Street, Edinburgh on 1 October 1844. She was 14. There was one other Lain listed in Edinburgh. A Janet Lain who died in 1844. I couldn't find John Lain or his wife Helen on the statutory registers death index (1855 onwards). So they either died before 1855 and are not on the index, or they didn't die in Scotland. I will send you the image of Grace's entry in the death register off-list. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "avril lacey" <chidham_1762@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census I recently sent an message containing the wrong dates relating to William Lain. Apologies for that. The followoing is what should have been sent: According to the 1841 census, William Lain is recorded as 10 months old and living in 12 Hermitage Place, St Cuthbert's - Midlothian. ( father John Lain and mother Helen) I need to get information regarding his birth. If anyone is researching this time period in the relevant parish registers, would it be possible for them to look up this information, as they are doing their own research? I have also drawn a blank for the whole of the family in the 1851 census - so any helpful pointers would be very much appreciated I live in Plymouth, and am happy to look up records in my local library if this is helpful to anyone. Kind regards Avril ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bob   Thanks for getting in contact and sorry for not replying until now - i have been away --- On Sat, 3/4/10, hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> wrote: From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 3 April, 2010, 15:24 Avril, In addition to what Rhoda gave you, the following info was obtained via the LDS/FHC information system. The correction of dates you did in your second message made sense of the files listed below pre 1841.  I did not find your William but two other children show up, Helen and John Christopher.  If it is the correct family you now have the Mothers surname "Allan".   Hope the data helps with your research. Bob Cdn ---------------------------------- LANE, John Christopher Christening Gender:    Male Birth Date:    19 Mar 1834 Birthplace:    Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Recorded in:    Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Collection:    St Cuthbert Father:    John LANE Mother:    Helen ALLAN LANE, Helen Christening Gender:    Female Birth Date:    25 Aug 1836 Birthplace:    Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Recorded in:    Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Collection:    St Cuthbert Father:    John LANE Mother:    Helen ALLAN Source:    FHL Film 1040214 Dates:    1813 - 1855 ===================== On 03/04/2010 4:36 AM, avril lacey wrote:<SNIP>...I recently sent an message containing the wrong dates relating to William Lain. Apologies for that. The followoing is what should have been sent:  According to the 1841 census, William Lain is recorded as 10 months old and living in 12 Hermitage Place, St Cuthbert's - Midlothian. ( father John Lain and mother Helen)... ============== http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/ *Interested in Ireland Genealogy, visit the IGP Archives.* IGP Archives Website <http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/> =============== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Rhoda, It seems I'll never know for sure. Thanks again for your thoughts Cindy On 9 April 2010 12:49, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Cindy > > Just a few thoughts. The pre-1855 'protestant' registrations on Scotlands > People (SP) are records of baptisms from the Church of Scotland parish > registers. So if Mary was a protestant but her mother was a member of one > of the break-away churches, or other protestant religions, then her baptism > would be unlikely to appear on SP. There is now an index of the surviving > Catholic baptisms on SP. > > However I think it was fairly unusual in early to mid 19th century Scotland > for illegitimate children to be baptised. It probably depended on the > Minister of the parish. I have a couple of (illegitimate) children in my > tree who were baptised and in both cases the mother's father acted as > 'sponsor'. Had Mary been baptised then she would probably have been > baptised under her mother's name i.e. Mary Girvan. But again I have in my > tree an instance of a child, although illegitimate, being baptised under > the > father's name. In this instance the child's maternal grandfather acted as > 'sponsor'. It was a small country parish and no doubt the Kirk exerted some > pressure on the child's father to recognise the child as his. > > >From 1855 onwards, of course, the (illegitimate) child's birth > would/should > have been registered probably under the mother's name unless the father was > willing to sign the register as the child's father. > > Rhoda > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Budgie" <budgiecindy@googlemail.com> > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:30 PM > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] DALGLEISH / GIRVAN > > > > Hi, > > > > I've been trying to find a birth or baptism record, but to no avail & > > wondered if anyone could help me please? > > > > I believe Mary DALGLEISH was born illegitimately in 1854 in Duddingston, > > Edinburgh. > > Her mother's name was Grace GIRVAN, who, after having two more children, > > Hugh & Susan (who died as a young baby), went on to marry a John > DALGLEISH > > in 1864. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cindy Just a few thoughts. The pre-1855 'protestant' registrations on Scotlands People (SP) are records of baptisms from the Church of Scotland parish registers. So if Mary was a protestant but her mother was a member of one of the break-away churches, or other protestant religions, then her baptism would be unlikely to appear on SP. There is now an index of the surviving Catholic baptisms on SP. However I think it was fairly unusual in early to mid 19th century Scotland for illegitimate children to be baptised. It probably depended on the Minister of the parish. I have a couple of (illegitimate) children in my tree who were baptised and in both cases the mother's father acted as 'sponsor'. Had Mary been baptised then she would probably have been baptised under her mother's name i.e. Mary Girvan. But again I have in my tree an instance of a child, although illegitimate, being baptised under the father's name. In this instance the child's maternal grandfather acted as 'sponsor'. It was a small country parish and no doubt the Kirk exerted some pressure on the child's father to recognise the child as his. >From 1855 onwards, of course, the (illegitimate) child's birth would/should have been registered probably under the mother's name unless the father was willing to sign the register as the child's father. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Budgie" <budgiecindy@googlemail.com> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:30 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] DALGLEISH / GIRVAN > Hi, > > I've been trying to find a birth or baptism record, but to no avail & > wondered if anyone could help me please? > > I believe Mary DALGLEISH was born illegitimately in 1854 in Duddingston, > Edinburgh. > Her mother's name was Grace GIRVAN, who, after having two more children, > Hugh & Susan (who died as a young baby), went on to marry a John DALGLEISH > in 1864. > >

Hi, I've been trying to find a birth or baptism record, but to no avail & wondered if anyone could help me please? I believe Mary DALGLEISH was born illegitimately in 1854 in Duddingston, Edinburgh. Her mother's name was Grace GIRVAN, who, after having two more children, Hugh & Susan (who died as a young baby), went on to marry a John DALGLEISH in 1864. Mary appears in the 1861 census living, in Newton, with her grandparents as Mary GIRVAN, but on later records & her marriage certificate she is named as Mary DALGLEISH (I'm not sure if she took her step-father's name, or whether in fact John DALGLEISH was her real father - he was in the Navy, so maybe he wasn't around long enough to get married before!). Mary's marriage certificate also states John DALGLEISH (deceased) as her father & her mother, Grace DALGLEISH was among the witnesses. I cannot find her on Scotlands People, however, on the IGI someone has submitted a Mary DALGLEISH born or baptised on 18 Oct 1854 in Portobello, which would be about right, but there are no contact details. I would greatly appreciate any help as my head is suffering after repeatedly hitting it on this brick wall!. I would be very happy to look up any records in the Surrey family history centre, if required. Many thanks Cindy

Hello Avril and Rhoda There is a marriage listed for John LANE and Eleanor ALLON on 12 June 1827 at Gateshead, Durham, England. It is an extracted record. The following children are listed: John Christopher L. b. 19.March 1834 at St. Cuthberts Helen b. 25 Aug. 1836 also at St. Cuthberts. Between 1836 and 1855 there are 24 John LANEs listed on ScotlandsPeople in Midlothian. Your John could well be one of them. Sheila KC CandROverson wrote: > Hello Avril > > I have been unable to find the birth on the Scotlands People birth index > (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk). As the parents were both English-born, it is > likely that had the children baptised in a Church other than the Church of > Scotland. The baptism registers on the Scotlands People website are those of > the Church of Scotland. > > However the Deaths and Burials Index (pre-1855) lists the deaths in the St > Cuthbert's Parish of Edinburgh of Alexander Wood Lain (1843) and Grace Hill > Lain (1844). I had a look at the image relating to Grace. She was the > daughter of John Lain and died of fever at 9 Haugh Street, Edinburgh on 1 > October 1844. She was 14. > > There was one other Lain listed in Edinburgh. A Janet Lain who died in 1844. > I couldn't find John Lain or his wife Helen on the statutory registers death > index (1855 onwards). So they either died before 1855 and are not on the > index, or they didn't die in Scotland. > > I will send you the image of Grace's entry in the death register off-list. > > Rhoda >

Hello Avril I have been unable to find the birth on the Scotlands People birth index (www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk). As the parents were both English-born, it is likely that had the children baptised in a Church other than the Church of Scotland. The baptism registers on the Scotlands People website are those of the Church of Scotland. However the Deaths and Burials Index (pre-1855) lists the deaths in the St Cuthbert's Parish of Edinburgh of Alexander Wood Lain (1843) and Grace Hill Lain (1844). I had a look at the image relating to Grace. She was the daughter of John Lain and died of fever at 9 Haugh Street, Edinburgh on 1 October 1844. She was 14. There was one other Lain listed in Edinburgh. A Janet Lain who died in 1844. I couldn't find John Lain or his wife Helen on the statutory registers death index (1855 onwards). So they either died before 1855 and are not on the index, or they didn't die in Scotland. I will send you the image of Grace's entry in the death register off-list. Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "avril lacey" <chidham_1762@yahoo.co.uk> To: <MIDLOTHIAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:36 AM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] William Lain - 10 months old in 1841 census I recently sent an message containing the wrong dates relating to William Lain. Apologies for that. The followoing is what should have been sent: According to the 1841 census, William Lain is recorded as 10 months old and living in 12 Hermitage Place, St Cuthbert's - Midlothian. ( father John Lain and mother Helen) I need to get information regarding his birth. If anyone is researching this time period in the relevant parish registers, would it be possible for them to look up this information, as they are doing their own research? I have also drawn a blank for the whole of the family in the 1851 census - so any helpful pointers would be very much appreciated I live in Plymouth, and am happy to look up records in my local library if this is helpful to anyone. Kind regards Avril

I recently sent an message containing the wrong dates relating to William Lain. Apologies for that. The followoing is what should have been sent:   According to the 1841 census, William Lain is recorded as 10 months old and living in 12 Hermitage Place, St Cuthbert's - Midlothian. ( father John Lain and mother Helen)   I need to get information regarding his birth.   If anyone is researching this time period in the relevant parish registers, would it be possible for them to look up this information, as they are doing their own research?   I have also drawn a blank for the whole of the family in the 1851 census - so any helpful pointers would be very much appreciated   I live in Plymouth, and am happy to look up records in my local library if this is helpful to anyone.   Kind regards   Avril