Eleanor, I found them at Ancestry.com. Hopefully that will help you find the image at Scotlands People: Name: Wm Ramage Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 692/1 Registration district: Leith North Civil parish: Leith North County: Midlothian Address: 5 Butlars Land Occupation: Scavenger ED: 18 Household schedule number: 126 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_168 Wm Ramage 38 Mary Ramage 38 Helen Ramage 13 Mary Ramage 8 Bridget Ramage 12 Mo Patty On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Eleanor Robertson < eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > I am looking for Father: William Mother: Mary > > Children: > > Mary b 1863 Edinburgh > > John 1865 Edinburgh > > Catherine 1867 Tranent > > Bridget b 1869 Edinburgh > > > > I have tried Scotland People but can find nothing for them. > > > > Can anyone help please. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Eleanor > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patty Lindsay Beavercreek, Ohio http://www.bletheringghillie.org/ghillietracks/

Neville, Go to familysearch.org Click on 'Search Records', Enter William Seaton as the father and Jacobina Brown as the mother, and nothing else at all. Then go down the results and you will come to records of six of their children, including William , b 1801 Isobel

I am having difficulty in getting more info on A William Seaton, part of the problem is that the Edinburgh and Berwixk areas had so many Seatons and even more sons named William in my wifes case 5 Williams in 6 generations. The one I am battling with is William Seaton, a Fisherman of Newhaven married on 19 September 1789 to a Jacobina (Binnie) Brown. This is the only info I have managed to dig up on him and His wife. (from the OPR for N L eith)) One source says they had 8 children but I can only find records of one, a William born 31 October 1801 (from the OPR Leith N) Any Ideas?

IGI has the following in no particular order Catherine 1804 George 1806 William 1801 Margaret 1797 (An LDS listing) Jacobina 1799 All Born in N Leith Hope this helps. Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neville Rasmussen" <jimmyjamjar@cybersmart.co.za> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:50 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] SEATON -Too many Williams in Edinburgh >I am having difficulty in getting more info on A William Seaton, part of >the > problem is that the Edinburgh and Berwixk areas had so many Seatons and > even > more sons named William in my wifes case 5 Williams in 6 generations. The > one I am battling with is > > William Seaton, a Fisherman of Newhaven married on 19 September 1789 to a > Jacobina (Binnie) Brown. This is the only info I have managed to dig up on > him and His wife. (from the OPR for N L eith)) > > One source says they had 8 children but I can only find records of one, a > William born 31 October 1801 (from the OPR Leith N) > > Any Ideas? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello List I am tracing Redpath's who are descended from Alexander Redpath and Isabella Darg Alexander the couple lived at 67 Torphichen Street ,Edinburgh, was a Master Slater employing 4 man in 1881. Peter Darg Redpath married a Janet G Smith in 1885 , St Georges Edinburgh, his sister Beatrice Runciman Redpath married a Walter Crow in 1884, St Georges , Edinburgh . Also seeking a family whose parents were ,Peter Redpath and Jane Sinclair , Peter was a Butcher, living at 8 Hamilton Place, Edinburgh. Ann Hope Redpath married Walter Crow in 1886 , In St Georges, Edinburgh . I would love to hear of these couples. If anyone has Redpath's in the area I have many to share mainly the descendants of Alexander Redpath and Lilias Murray who had a large family in Dunbar and surrounding area. Thank you in Advance Bob Searching REDPATH KINNAIRD THOMSON BORLAND and many others

I am looking for the parents of James Lindsay, paper maker, who married Janet Keith from Lasswade, had many children in Penicuik and then moved to Markinch, Fife in 1814 when is son David became owner of the Rothes Mill there. Here's what I have: James was buried in Markinch in 1839 at age 85, so he was born about 1754. Janet was buried in 1834, also in Markinch. Have not found a marriage record for James and Janet Keith. Following children registered in Penicuik to James Lindsay, paper maker, and Janet Keith: - Adam, b 12 June 1783, m Jean Hogarth, has 3 children in Penicuik and then 8 in Markinch, emigrates to Saugerties, NY about 1830 - Archibald b 5 Nov 1787, m Agnes Wyse of Markinch,marriage registered in Canongate, has 7 childrenn in Markinch, emigrates to Northern Ireland about 1830 - Margaret b 21 Oct 1791, m Peter Thomson, marriage registered in Canongate, has 3 children in Markinch - James b 28 June 1793, m Janet Mitchel, 3 children in Markinch, moves to Glasgow as a rag merchant - Mary b 4 Mar 1795, m James Ingles in Penicuik in 1830 - Thomas, b 10 Jul 1797 Known children with no registrations found: - Marion, buried in Penicuik 13 Oct 1796 - David, purchases Rothes Mill with Thomas Whyte of Leslie in 1814 after Keith bankruptcy (see below), Thomas goes bankrupt and then so does David in 1830 when family apparently scatters. David evidently worked in the mill before purchasing when it was owned by Archibald and William Keith who started the mill in 1804. William Keith dies in 1806 in Markinch and there is a court battle between Archibald Keith Sr and William's wife Marion and son Archibald. William is Janet's brother, Archibald is referred to as William's father in court papers, but I believe was actually his older, by 20 years, half brother who probably raised him. Archibald Sr had a paper mill at Newbattle. So did David Lindsay move to Fife 10 years ahead of the rest of the Lindsay family with his uncle William? Did the Lindsay's originally have roots in Fife? David marries a half sister of Thomas Whyte's wife in 1819. The father of Janet, William and Archibald is Adam Keith. Janet's mother is Marion Stevenson. The bankruptcy papers for David refer to a father James, brother Adam and sister Rose which is the basis for linking him to this family. David emigrates to NY with his sister Rose about the same time as his brother Adam and family, and dies in February of 1831 in Saugerties, New York. - Rose, only reference is in the court papers. Adam also names his last daughter Rosalind Thomson in 1830 before leaving for the US. I believe the name Rose came from Janet Keith's brother's wife Rose Thomson. James has a sister Jean who is buried at Markinch in 1815. Other possible connections: James' son Archibald and daughter Margaret are both registered in the Canongate parish with Adam Lindsay, coach maker, as a witness. An Adam, coach maker, married Jean Dundass, also in Canongate, in 1794. Does anyone have information on this Lindsay line? Or about Adam, the coach maker? Using the naming tradition, James' father might be named Adam and his mother Margaret, assuming Marion was born before Margaret. Unless the Adam and Archibald are named after Janet's father and older brother, in which case possibly David is the older brother. But then there isn't a Janet even though there are multiple daughters, so either there is yet another child missing or James and Janet did not adhere to the naming tradition completely. Any thoughts on predicting James' parents' names? Any thoughts on where James originated? Or where and when the births of David and Rose might be registered? Patty

Hi Donald Thanks you - that works. It was my mistake - I was selecting "All Resources" instead of IGI. I don't use Family Search very often as all it usually gives me is what I already know. Even then the information is usually inaccurate - four entries for my ggg grandparents all with different birth dates! Thanks to everyone else who responded to my plea for help. Ian Westergaard New Zealand On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:07:39 EDT, DonJGrant@aol.com wrote: > Hi Folks > > I use this facility regularly and successfully. > > The method I follow from the standard search page is > > (1) choose the IGI search option. > > (2) leave the normal search fields (First name, Last Name, and spouse > details) BLANK > > (3) complete both parent details with at least father's first and last > names and mother's first name > > (4) add any details of event, year range, location that you are sure of > > Clicking Search should then bring up details of children with the given > parent details > > Regards > > Donald > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > In a message dated 21/06/2010 21:51:23 GMT Daylight Time, > ian.westergaard@ihug.co.nz writes: > > Hi Sheila > > No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the > same page with the following message:- > > "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any > other field except a country" > > It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. > > Any more hints that I could try? > > Ian Westergaard > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sheila No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the same page with the following message:- "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any other field except a country" It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. Any more hints that I could try? Ian Westergaard On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:51 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children search. > I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the > surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. > > The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now > be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter > batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the > bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or > extracted. > > I hope this helps someone! > > Sheila. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:59:34 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > Neville Rasmussen wrote: > > I thought all my birthdays had come at once when I found I could list > the childrens names. What a great help it is. > > To list the children of a couple on the IGI go onto familysearch.org > > I shall use your John SEATON and Margaret PATRICK as an example. > Hi This did not work for me - could you give me the URL of the search page you are using. Ian Westergaard New Zealand

Sorry, I just read all the posts and see that you got it now! cheers! Tammy On 21/06/2010 11:34 PM, Tammy Mitchell wrote: > Hi Ian, I think you're putting the last name in the first field, (after > given name) > > Skip that part altogether, just put in >

Hi Ian, I think you're putting the last name in the first field, (after given name) Skip that part altogether, just put in -the father's given and surname -the mother's given and surname choose: birth (don't put any dates or anything) British Isles Scotland. That's it! be sure not to have the surname in the first surname field. hope that helps Tammy BC Canada On 21/06/2010 1:51 PM, Ian Westergaard wrote: > Hi Sheila > > No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the > same page with the following message:- > > "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any > other field except a country" > > It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. > > Any more hints that I could try? > > Ian Westergaard > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:51 +0100, Pentlands<fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > >> Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children >> > search. > >> I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the >> surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. >> >> The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now >> be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter >> batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the >> bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or >> extracted. >> >> I hope this helps someone! >> >> Sheila. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks for that Patty. You musn't choose events or dates, only the headings I have listed. It can be so frustrating, but I would like others to gain as much information as I did years ago by listing just parents and getting sometimes 15 births and Christenings come up. Sometimes you will find quite a span in dates because there are more couples with the same names! Sheila. Patty Lindsay wrote: > What I found was that I had chosen "Birth/Christening" under "Event" when > trying to do this and was getting an error. If I chose "All" under "Event", > it worked. > > Patty > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > > >> Hi Ian >> >> You are getting it right! I get that message sometimes if I have missed >> something out. that is the page I have saved on favourites. >> >> On the page with the red message enter the following info on my family. >> >> Father William Kinnear >> Mother Janet Cargill >> Region British Isles >> Country Scotland >> Click on Search >> >> You should have about 7 children listed as a result, all born in Wemyss, >> Fife if I remember correctly. >> >> I usually clip old messages but thought it could be helpful to leave the info attached. >> >> Sheila. >> >> Ian Westergaard wrote: >> >>> Hi Sheila >>> >>> No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the same page with the following message:- >>> >>> "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any >>> other field except a country" >>> >>> It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. >>> >>> Any more hints that I could try? >>> >>> Ian Westergaard >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:51 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> >>> >> wrote: >> >>>> Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children >>>> >>>> >>>> I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the >>>> surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. >>>> >>>> The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now >>>> be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter >>>> batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the >>>> bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or >>>> extracted. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps someone! >>>> >>>> Sheila. >>>> >>>>

Hi Ian You are getting it right! I get that message sometimes if I have missed something out. that is the page I have saved on favourites. On the page with the red message enter the following info on my family. Father William Kinnear Mother Janet Cargill Region British Isles Country Scotland Click on Search You should have about 7 children listed as a result, all born in Wemyss, Fife if I remember correctly. I hope to goodness it works this time. I have had problems getting up pages using other peoples instructions and it can be frustrating! I usually clip old messages but thought it could be helpful to leave the info attached. Sheila. Ian Westergaard wrote: > Hi Sheila > > No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the > same page with the following message:- > > "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any > other field except a country" > > It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. > > Any more hints that I could try? > > Ian Westergaard > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:51 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > >> Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children >> > search. > >> I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the >> surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. >> >> The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now >> be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter >> batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the >> bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or >> extracted. >> >> I hope this helps someone! >> >> Sheila. >>

Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children search. I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or extracted. I hope this helps someone! Sheila.

I've never had any problems doing a parent search in the IGI when I've included a specific event and year (with a plus/minus). Jacquie -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pentlands Sent: June 21, 2010 5:23 PM To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] IGI search for children. Success! Thanks for that Patty. You musn't choose events or dates, only the headings I have listed. It can be so frustrating, but I would like others to gain as much information as I did years ago by listing just parents and getting sometimes 15 births and Christenings come up. Sometimes you will find quite a span in dates because there are more couples with the same names! Sheila.

Hello listers I posted the instructions below to Neville on finding children of parents on the IGI. I have had the site 'my favourites' for years but I have noticed that some of the family search home pages are different for the Mormon site. The site I use has www.familysearch.org?Search/customhomepage.asp on it but if I cut and paste that it doesn't take me to the same layout! It is the IGI Mormons site that I use. Sheila. >> >>> >>> I thought all my birthdays had come at once when I found I could list >>> the childrens names. What a great help it is. >>> >>> To list the children of a couple on the IGI go onto familysearch.org >>> >>> I shall use your John SEATON and Margaret PATRICK as an example. >>> >>>

Ian Hi! twas not me that wrote that advice but Judith. I have not tried it yet, here's hoping Neville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Westergaard" <ian.westergaard@ihug.co.nz> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] SEASTON children from IGI > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:59:34 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: >> Neville Rasmussen wrote: >> >> I thought all my birthdays had come at once when I found I could list >> the childrens names. What a great help it is. >> >> To list the children of a couple on the IGI go onto familysearch.org >> >> I shall use your John SEATON and Margaret PATRICK as an example. >> > Hi > > This did not work for me - could you give me the URL of the search page > you > are using. > > Ian Westergaard > New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

What I found was that I had chosen "Birth/Christening" under "Event" when trying to do this and was getting an error. If I chose "All" under "Event", it worked. Patty On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: > Hi Ian > > You are getting it right! I get that message sometimes if I have missed > something out. that is the page I have saved on favourites. > > On the page with the red message enter the following info on my family. > > Father William Kinnear > Mother Janet Cargill > Region British Isles > Country Scotland > Click on Search > > You should have about 7 children listed as a result, all born in Wemyss, > Fife if I remember correctly. > > I hope to goodness it works this time. I have had problems getting up > pages using other peoples instructions and it can be frustrating! > > I usually clip old messages but thought it could be helpful to leave the > info attached. > > Sheila. > > Ian Westergaard wrote: > > Hi Sheila > > > > No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to > the > > same page with the following message:- > > > > "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any > > other field except a country" > > > > It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. > > > > Any more hints that I could try? > > > > Ian Westergaard > > > > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:26:51 +0100, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> > wrote: > > > >> Neville, someone is having difficulty getting onto the IGI children > >> > > search. > > > >> I went to the familysearch.org home page. I then entered only the > >> surname SEATON, clicked for marriage and entered Scotland. > >> > >> The page that I use and have on my favourites then came up. You will now > >> be able to use the instructions I posted earlier. You can also enter > >> batch numbers. You will see the batch number on the results page. At the > >> bottom of the entry it will tell you if the record has been submitted or > >> extracted. > >> > >> I hope this helps someone! > >> > >> Sheila. > >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patty Lindsay Beavercreek, Ohio http://www.bletheringghillie.org/ghillietracks/

Hi Folks I use this facility regularly and successfully. The method I follow from the standard search page is (1) choose the IGI search option. (2) leave the normal search fields (First name, Last Name, and spouse details) BLANK (3) complete both parent details with at least father's first and last names and mother's first name (4) add any details of event, year range, location that you are sure of Clicking Search should then bring up details of children with the given parent details Regards Donald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 21/06/2010 21:51:23 GMT Daylight Time, ian.westergaard@ihug.co.nz writes: Hi Sheila No matter what I try it does not work, I keep on getting redirected to the same page with the following message:- "If you enter a last name without a first name, you must not fill in any other field except a country" It is either I am doing something wrong or maybe it is a regional thing. Any more hints that I could try? Ian Westergaard

Hi Neville, You should be looking in the census records on Ancestry.com or Scotland's People. This looks like William with his father John and John's sister Isabelle in 1891 taken from the Ancestry records. 1891 Scotland Census about John Seaton Name: John Seaton Age: 63 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Inveresk, Mid Lothian Registration Number: 690 Registration district: Kirknewton and East Calder Civil parish: Kirknewton and East Calder County: Midlothian Address: Main Street Occupation: Boot & Shoemaker ED: 3 Household schedule number: 186 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1891_361 Household Members: Name Age John Seaton 63 William Seaton 25, Son, Occupation Draper b. abt 1866 in Inveresk, Midlothian Isabel Lockie 65, Sister, No occupation given, b.c. 1826, Inveresk, Midlothian This is probably William in 1881 with his grandparents NOT his parents. Ancestry makes a lot of typos. You need to check original census records on Scotlands People. Also his brother...note the middle name of Patrick. 1881 Scotland Census about William Seaton Name: William Seaton Age: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1866 Relationship: Son Father's Name: George Mother's Name: Jessie Gender: Male Where born: Musselburgh, Midlothian Registration Number: 685/1 Registration district: St George Civil parish: St George County: Midlothian Address: 27 Collins Place Occupation: Apprentice Draper ED: 113 Household schedule number: 99 Line: 16 Roll: cssct1881_283 Household Members: Name Age George Johnston 61 Jessie Johnston 61 Isabella Johnston 23 John Patrick Seaton 20 William Seaton 15 Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neville Rasmussen" <jimmyjamjar@cybersmart.co.za> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Seatons pre 1900 Greetings All! I have just joined this list as part of my efforts in tracing the Scottish side of the family. My particular interest is The Seaton family who lived in and around the Edinburgh area William Seaton (commercial traveller) can't find his birth date. He emigrated to South Africa in 1900/01. He was married to a Jane Chalmers Sandilands b1870 d1901 in SA. They had 4 children William, Mina, Charles and James (born in SA). John Seaton (father of William) (shoemaker) b1829 d1899 Married to a Margaret Patrick b1839 can't find her death date William Seaton (father of John) birth and death sought is listed as deceased on son Johns marriage record in 1859, he married Elizabeth Bell b1801 can't find death record William Seaton father of William no details married to a Jacobina Brown no details Some of the wives came from further afield in East Lothian, Berwick and Coldstream but the Seaton men seem to all come from Cannongate, Inveresk, Leith parishes of Midlothian. In which records am I likely to find any siblings of these Seaton men? Many thanx Neville Rasmussen jimmyjamjar@cybersmart.co.za __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5212 (20100620) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com