Hello Bob Apart from Archibald WALDIE and Margaret PORTEOUS, I cannot link in with the other names. Thanks for getting back to me. Sheila KC robertgascoigne wrote: > Hello Sheila > > I was in contact before with a Porteous researcher I cannot remember who > it was, but it had to do with someone with the name of James Will from > Aberdeenshire. I have the family of Archibald and Margaret. I have not > worked on that line for a while, I have been concentrating on Redpath and > Kinnaird in the Dunbar area. I do not know my connection . I have now found > the connection Robert Thomson from Stow, Peebles, married Janet White from > East Linton. Robert is on my main tree as his brother Alexander Thomson > married Jacobina Kinnaird. Jacobina was the party to a Lawsuit I have > recently purchased from West Register House . The Lawsuit gave two families > of Kinnaird's giving husbands and wives also their children and where they > lived . Also three generation's of Redpaths Robert Thomson's father married > again when he was 66 to a 26 year old Violet Borland they had four children > who died. If you need anything on this line let me know > > Bob >

Thanks Sheila. Regards, Brian. --- On Sun, 4/7/10, Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> wrote: From: Pentlands <fmckinnear@sky.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Kinnear, McDonald and Waldie. To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 4 July, 2010, 18:35 Hi Brian I have had a good look at my Mac/McDonalds but cannot connect. Three generations back, in the highlands, mine were also Mac. Thank you for getting in touch. Sheila.

Hi Brian I have had a good look at my Mac/McDonalds but cannot connect. Three generations back, in the highlands, mine were also Mac. Thank you for getting in touch. Sheila. brian ware wrote: > Hi Sheila, > > I have the following MacDONALD - no Mc. > > Alexander Fraser MacDONALD > (possible parents: John MacDONALD & Jeannie/Jessie FRASER) > Catherine MacINTOSH. > (parents: Donald MacINTOSH & Catherine MacINTOSH) > 16 Apr 1897 21, Orwell Place, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. > son: > Arthur John MacDONALD. > b.4 Aug 1904 77, Henderson Row, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. > > Regards,Brian. > >

Hi Bob This is quite a good site if you have the name DUN/DUNN in your ancestry (my 4xGt Grandmother was a DUN from, or living in, Perthshire). See: http://www.dun.org.uk/ Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "robertgascoigne" <robertgascoigne@cox.net> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Kinnear, McDonald and Waldie. > Hello Sheila > > Have you the birth dates as I have WALDIES around that time period, they > are from Whitekirk, East Lothian. I have many people on my tree from East > Lothian who moved into Edinburgh. > Below are some of my Names > > Bob > > KINNAIRD, > REDPATH, > DUN, > MANDERSON, > THOMSON. > BORLAND >

Hello Bob I have some Waldies in Seacliff Whitekirk and Tynnin area, as follows. Archibald Waldie married Margaret Porteous. There children were as follows: Christian b. 1835 George b. 1838 Thomas b. 1840 Alexander b. 1844 John b. 1847 Archibald b. 1850. Do you connect with any of them? Your name rings a bell so perhaps we have been in contact before. Sheila KC. robertgascoigne wrote: > Hello Sheila > > Have you the birth dates as I have WALDIES around that time period, they > are from Whitekirk, East Lothian. I have many people on my tree from East > Lothian who moved into Edinburgh. > Below are some of my Names > > Bob > > KINNAIRD, > REDPATH, > DUN, > MANDERSON, > THOMSON. > BORLAND >

Thanks Rhoda,  We love hearing your memories.  In the court deposition that we received, it makes mention of William Tait, and either in the disposition or i a directory for Gilmerton from about 1842, we found that William Tait owned a provisions store.  I have no idea if it was the William Tait mentioned in the deposition, or perhaps he had a son by the same name.  We noted his name with interest when we saw it as part of the story and mentioned again in the deposition, because William Tait was a witness to some of the Mitchell children's christenings.  Since by 1841, Elizabeth Weir Mitchell was living in Edinburgh, it is of course possible that Mr Tait purchased the property and continued to run the provisions store, while giving up the pub. Maybe the answer lies in trying to learn more about Wm Tail, and what he was doing before 1841, perhaps through directories or newspapers.  I will try to find more information that way. Thanks again for sharing your memories. Mary Mitchell Guler --- On Sun, 7/4/10, CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> wrote: From: CandROverson <overson12@btinternet.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Pub in Gilmerton, 1820 To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 7:28 PM Hi Mary and Tammy I think I have probably mentioned before that I was brought up in Gilmerton. I lived there as a child in the 1950s.  If I remember correctly, the old village consisted of one main street (Drum Street, I think) with a blacksmith's and a line of shops, including a pub on a corner and two roads leading off the main street.  One road contained Gilmerton Parish Church (now closed, I believe) and the other had a wonderful fish and chip shop. By the 1950s there were number of new housing schemes surrounding the village. I have just had a look at the Google map of Gilmerton. Travelling south (away from Edinburgh) down Drum Street,  I see the old village hall is still there on the corner of Drum Street and Ferniehill Drive (I used to learn Scottish country dancing there!). But a Bingo Hall now stands where the blacksmith's once stood.  If you carry on up Drum Street still in a southern direction, on your left you will see a Kwik Serve, then a Mr Man's (whatever that is).  An electrical shop owned by a man called Mr Tomes stood where Kwik Serve is now and there used to be a fish shop where Mr Man's is now. It was family-owned and at the moment I can't remember the name of the family but I think they were an old Gilmerton family. All I remember is that he was called Alan and I used to love watching him filleting the fish.  The next shop along which is now called Studio 45, was known by us as "Mrs Tait's". This again was a family-owned shop which sold groceries, veg, cakes and sweets.  I think the Taits were an old Gilmerton family and wonder if they were connected to the 'William Tait' who was a neighbour of Mrs Mitchell.  The Mechanic Arms is opposite 'Studio 45'.  I can't remember what it was called when I was a child, or even if it was a pub. The street to the right, leading off Drum Street, is called Ravenscroft Street, and is one of the roads I mentioned in my opening para.  Gilmerton Church was/is on this road, about 200 yards up on the right. See: http://tiny.cc/i4hul Thanks for giving me an excuse to walk down memory lane! Rhoda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Guler" <mlmguler@yahoo.com> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Pub in Gilmerton, 1820 We have found that our Mitchell gggg grandparents, Robert Mitchell and Elizabeth Weir Mitchell owned a Pub in Gilmerton. Their home included the both the pub and a grocery store, and was on what, at the time, was "Gilmerton" Highway? We got this information from a newspaper article in the Edinburgh Advertiser referencing a court case(1821) in which Elizabeth Mitchell was asked to give a deposition to the court related to an attempted murder on the road near the pub. The deposition mentions that Mrs. Mitchell's husband, was a cattle broker and a publican, and that Mrs Mitchell served a neighbor, William Tait, who came into the pub along with 2 men unknown to her. She described the men as best she could, and said they both had rifles with them. One of the two men was subsequently charged with attempted murder. This story was the first we had heard that Robert Mitchell was a publican, and now have interest in knowing if the site still stands. By the time of the 1841 census, Elizabeth Weir Mitchell is widowed and living in Edinburgh, so the pub was no longer in the family's possession (we suspect). We posed the question to a Gilmerton site on the internet, and someone said that the pub now called "the Mechanic's Arms". was known in the 1950's as "Mitchell's Pub". I don't know if the pub owned by Mitchell's in the 1820s would/could retain the name for about 125 years without Mitchell ownership, so I don't know if this is the pub they owned. Is there a way to find records of land ownership in Gilmerton in 1820, without having an actual address to research? A complication of this is that we have been unable to find either the birth record or the death record of our Robert Mitchell. We would think that if there were land owned, that there would be either a will, or some records of land transactions after his death. We have been unsuccessful at finding anything like that. We had always thought that he was a cattle broker, and never considered that there might be a death record that referred to him as a publican, so we will go through the potential death records again, looking for a Robert Mitchell with that occupation. Any and all suggestions welcomed! Mary Mitchell Guler and Tammy Mitchell Cape Coral, FL and Chilliwack, BC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List Thought I would post some of the surnames I am interested in Terrance O'DONNELL married Mary Jane MCGUIRE 1878 Selkirk Thomas McGUIRE married Ann SHORT June 1853 Selkirk Mary O'DONNELL married John GALLACHER 1877 Edinburgh Catherine O'DONNELL married Jospeh CLEMENTS Edinburh 1886 John CLEMENTS married Mary RIELLY July 1854 Edinburgh Margaret O'DONNELL married Patrick GARRITY Edinburgh 1908 Susan O'DONNELL married John McTIERNAN Edinburgh 1887 Bridget O'DONNELL married John CALLAGHAN Edinbrugh 1890 John O'DONNELL born Edinburgh 1862 Patrick O'DONNELL born Edinurgh 1864 Daniel MOLLOY married Rose MCCABE Broxburn 1906 Owen McCABAE married Mary FITZPATRICK Broxburn 1880 Robert MOLLOY married Mary Kate BOYLE East Calder 1917 James BOYLE married Mary Ellen HARTE Sligo Ireland 1889 James Thomas MOLLOY born 1891 Mid Calder William MOLLOY married Catherine MCMANUS East Calder 1928 Martin McMANUS married Elizaeth CONNELLY Broxburn 1890 Thomas O'RORKE married Ann EARDLEY Kirknewton 1900 Terrence O'RORKE married Margaret BLAIN Kirknewton 1895 Agnes O'RORKE married Michael EARDLEY East Calder 1899 Rhona Seath

Hello Sheila I can send you a five generation tree going back from Archibald Waldie if you send your email. Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pentlands" <fmckinnear@sky.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 1:39 PM To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Waldie. > Hello Bob > > Apart from Archibald WALDIE and Margaret PORTEOUS, I cannot link in with > the other names. > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > Sheila KC > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanx ; was a help Neville ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonesib" <jonesib@manx.net> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 11:48 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] (MIDLOTHIAN) SEATON > Neville, > Go to familysearch.org Click on 'Search Records', Enter William > Seaton as the father and Jacobina Brown as the mother, and nothing else at > all. Then go down the results and you will come to records of six of > their children, including William , b 1801 > > Isobel > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We have found that our Mitchell gggg grandparents, Robert Mitchell and Elizabeth Weir Mitchell owned a Pub in Gilmerton.  Their home included the both the pub and a grocery store, and was on what, at the time, was "Gilmerton" Highway?  We got this information from a newspaper article in the Edinburgh Advertiser referencing a court case(1821) in which Elizabeth Mitchell was asked to give a deposition to the court related to an attempted murder on the road near the pub.  The deposition mentions that Mrs. Mitchell's husband, was a cattle broker and a publican, and that Mrs Mitchell served a neighbor, William Tait, who came into the pub along with 2 men unknown to her.  She described the men as best she could, and said they both had rifles with them. One of the two men was subsequently charged with attempted murder. This story was the first we had heard that Robert Mitchell was a publican, and now have interest in knowing if the site still stands.  By the time of the 1841 census, Elizabeth Weir Mitchell is widowed and living in Edinburgh, so the pub was no longer in the family's possession (we suspect).  We posed the question to a Gilmerton site on the internet, and someone said that the pub now called "the Mechanic's Arms". was known in the 1950's as "Mitchell's Pub".   I don't know if the pub owned by Mitchell's in the 1820s would/could retain the name for about 125 years without Mitchell ownership, so I don't know if this is the pub they owned. Is there a way to find records of land ownership in Gilmerton in 1820, without having an actual address to research?  A complication of this is that we have been unable to find either the birth record or the death record of our Robert Mitchell.  We would think that if there were land owned, that there would be either a will, or some records of land transactions after his death.  We have been unsuccessful at finding anything like that.  We had always thought that he was a cattle broker, and never considered that there might be a death record that referred to him as a publican, so we will go through the potential death records again, looking for a Robert Mitchell with that occupation. Any and all suggestions welcomed! Mary Mitchell Guler and Tammy Mitchell Cape Coral, FL and Chilliwack, BC

Hello Sheila I was in contact before with a Porteous researcher I cannot remember who it was, but it had to do with someone with the name of James Will from Aberdeenshire. I have the family of Archibald and Margaret. I have not worked on that line for a while, I have been concentrating on Redpath and Kinnaird in the Dunbar area. I do not know my connection . I have now found the connection Robert Thomson from Stow, Peebles, married Janet White from East Linton. Robert is on my main tree as his brother Alexander Thomson married Jacobina Kinnaird. Jacobina was the party to a Lawsuit I have recently purchased from West Register House . The Lawsuit gave two families of Kinnaird's giving husbands and wives also their children and where they lived . Also three generation's of Redpaths Robert Thomson's father married again when he was 66 to a 26 year old Violet Borland they had four children who died. If you need anything on this line let me know Bob -------------------------------------------------- From: "Pentlands" <fmckinnear@sky.com> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 12:33 PM To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Kinnear, McDonald and Waldie. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello listers Let's follow Rhona's lead and get posting. Perhaps we'll fill in some gaps. My family names are as follows: John WALDIE married Euphemia DUNN in 1822 in Liberton. Thomas Alexander WALDIE m. Margaret Torrance DENHOLM 1872, Liberton. William James WALDIE m Marion KING in 1875 in Liberton. James KINNEAR m. Margaret WATT in 1889, in Edinburgh William McIntosh McDONALD m. Janet (Jessie) WATSON in 1899 in Leith. Sheila.

Hi Sheila, I have the following MacDONALD - no Mc. Alexander Fraser MacDONALD (possible parents: John MacDONALD & Jeannie/Jessie FRASER) Catherine MacINTOSH. (parents: Donald MacINTOSH & Catherine MacINTOSH) 16 Apr 1897  21, Orwell Place, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. son: Arthur John MacDONALD. b.4 Aug 1904  77, Henderson Row, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. Regards,Brian.

Hello Sheila Have you the birth dates as I have WALDIES around that time period, they are from Whitekirk, East Lothian. I have many people on my tree from East Lothian who moved into Edinburgh. Below are some of my Names Bob KINNAIRD, REDPATH, DUN, MANDERSON, THOMSON. BORLAND

Once you have the census details you can have a look at seeing if the place still exists, as many of the houses date from the mid 1800's or earlier. To do this go to google and type in the address and select the maps menu at the left top of the page, hit the enter and you will get the modern street address, if this corresponds to the old census address you and then select the street view and hey presto you will get a picture of the house that you an view from all angles. It doesn't always work out as one of my Midlothian forebears home address is now a take-away food outlet! but I have others that appear untouched by time, (except for the modern cars outide) If it is pictures you are looking for try http://www.capitalcollections.org.uk which is a photo archive of Edinburgh from their city library, some wonderful pictures showing not only buidings but how the people dressed etc. Neville From: "Eleanor Robertson" <eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1881 > Many thanks for this. > No wonder I could not find them the spelling! > Kind regards > Eleanor > > -----Original Message----- > From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rhona and Tom Seath > Sent: 02 July 2010 00:20 > To: midlothian@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1881 > > Eleanor > > I think this is your family in the 1881 census > > Rhona > > Dwelling: Butlers Close > Census Place: North Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland > Source: FHL Film 0224016 GRO Ref Volume 692-1 EnumDist 18 > Page > > 23 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William RAMMAGE M 55 M Alloa > Rel: Head > Occ: Labourer > Mary RAMMAGE M 49 F Rosscommon, Ireland > Rel: Wife > Mary RAMMAGE U 17 F Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: No Occupation > Bridget RAMMAGE 12 F Edinburgh, Scotland > Rel: Daur > Occ: Scholar > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eleanor Robertson" <eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:07 AM > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1871 Census > > >>I > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks for this. No wonder I could not find them the spelling! Kind regards Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Rhona and Tom Seath Sent: 02 July 2010 00:20 To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1881 Eleanor I think this is your family in the 1881 census Rhona Dwelling: Butlers Close Census Place: North Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224016 GRO Ref Volume 692-1 EnumDist 18 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William RAMMAGE M 55 M Alloa Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Mary RAMMAGE M 49 F Rosscommon, Ireland Rel: Wife Mary RAMMAGE U 17 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: No Occupation Bridget RAMMAGE 12 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Robertson" <eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1871 Census >I ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Eleanor I think this is your family in the 1881 census Rhona Dwelling: Butlers Close Census Place: North Leith, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224016 GRO Ref Volume 692-1 EnumDist 18 Page 23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William RAMMAGE M 55 M Alloa Rel: Head Occ: Labourer Mary RAMMAGE M 49 F Rosscommon, Ireland Rel: Wife Mary RAMMAGE U 17 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: No Occupation Bridget RAMMAGE 12 F Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Robertson" <eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <midlothian@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1871 Census >I

I have searched all of Midlothian on Scotland People and I paid for a few and they are all the wrong family. You have saved me wasting any more money. So many thanks. Kind regards Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:midlothian-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patty Lindsay Sent: 01 July 2010 18:34 To: midlothian@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Ramage 1871 Census Eleanor, I found them at Ancestry.com. Hopefully that will help you find the image at Scotlands People: Name: Wm Ramage Age: 38 Estimated birth year: abt 1833 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Mary Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 692/1 Registration district: Leith North Civil parish: Leith North County: Midlothian Address: 5 Butlars Land Occupation: Scavenger ED: 18 Household schedule number: 126 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1871_168 Wm Ramage 38 Mary Ramage 38 Helen Ramage 13 Mary Ramage 8 Bridget Ramage 12 Mo Patty On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Eleanor Robertson < eleanor.robertson@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > I am looking for Father: William Mother: Mary > > Children: > > Mary b 1863 Edinburgh > > John 1865 Edinburgh > > Catherine 1867 Tranent > > Bridget b 1869 Edinburgh > > > > I have tried Scotland People but can find nothing for them. > > > > Can anyone help please. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Eleanor > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patty Lindsay Beavercreek, Ohio http://www.bletheringghillie.org/ghillietracks/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am looking for Father: William Mother: Mary Children: Mary b 1863 Edinburgh John 1865 Edinburgh Catherine 1867 Tranent Bridget b 1869 Edinburgh I have tried Scotland People but can find nothing for them. Can anyone help please. Kind regards Eleanor

I am looking for Father: William Mother: Mary Children: Mary b 1863 Edinburgh John 1865 Edinburgh Catherine 1867 Tranent Bridget b 1869 Edinburgh I have tried Scotland People but can find nothing for them. Can anyone help please. Kind regards Eleanor