Hi Leslie: There's a similar resource for several countries at http://iigs.rootsweb.com/bdm/ (at the bottom of the page are links to the specific country pages). -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Hastings [mailto:leslie@kodiak-web-design.com] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 9:39 PM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] Free extra names - BMD and census I've just finished the first installment of a project I've been meaning to tackle for a long time. You know those two extra names you get whenever you download a birth record from Scotland's People? I've been collating these (and others) into a spreadsheet. It's early days, but have a look and see if there's anybody there you'd like more information on. I'll be adding to it, but not tonight! The spreadsheet is at a link on http://www.recordinspector.co.uk/freebies.html And feel free to spread the word. Cheers, Leslie -- Kodiak Web Design http://www.kodiak-web-design.com

I've just finished the first installment of a project I've been meaning to tackle for a long time. You know those two extra names you get whenever you download a birth record from Scotland's People? I've been collating these (and others) into a spreadsheet. It's early days, but have a look and see if there's anybody there you'd like more information on. I'll be adding to it, but not tonight! The spreadsheet is at a link on http://www.recordinspector.co.uk/freebies.html And feel free to spread the word. Cheers, Leslie -- Kodiak Web Design http://www.kodiak-web-design.com

Hi All Would anyone out there have access to 1901 Census for Canongate,Edinburgh. I'm trying to find Archibald Elliot aged 40yrs. Policeman, wife Margaret. Children ? Address might be 7 Ingliston Street or 12 -----?Lady, Edinburgh. Many Thanks Carmel

Found these entries via FHC data, may help you. No other data or interest in these surnames. Bob Cdn. ============================================= YOUNG, Helen Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 5 Aug 1733 Christening Date: 19 Aug 1733 Recorded in: Pencaitland, East Lothian, Scotland Father: David YOUNG Mother: Christian AITKEN Source: FHL Film 103189 + Dates: 1599 - 1805 ------------------------------------- YOUNG, Thomas Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 May 1763 Christening Date: 29 May 1763 Recorded in: Prestonpans, East Lothian, Scotland Father: John YOUNG Mother: Marion STODDART Source: FHL Film 1067856 Dates: 1704 - 1820 ---------------------------------------------------------- YOUNG, Patrick Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 Nov 1787 Christening Date: 25 Nov 1787 Recorded in: Prestonpans, East Lothian, Scotland Father: John YOUNG Mother: Marion STODDART Source: FHL Film 1067856 Dates: 1704 - 1820 -------------------------- =============================================== -----Original Message----- Subject: [MLN] Re: FRASER, STODDART, SUTHERLAND, McINTIRE, AITKIN, GRANT I have David YOUNG married Christian AITKEN in 1728 & had 7 children one of whom was John YOUNG baptised 18 April 1731. John YOUNG married Marrion STODDART on 3 March 1766 at Dalkeith, Midlothian and had 13 children born mostly in Prestonpans.

Hello list; I am back after a bit of an absence... I wonder if there is anyone out there who could do an 1861 OR 1871 census lookup for me. I'm looking for a family of Wilsons, most likely in Edinburgh. Thomas WILSON (head) was posted to Dublin with the Scots Greys in 1860, but his daughter Barbara Herkes WILSON was born in Edinburgh in 1863, so I am hoping he was there in 1861 as well. His wife's name was Helen (or Ellen) WILSON (nee McINTOSH). I know only of the three of them. I have their marriage record from Dublin (1860), but cannot find either one of them after this except for Thomas' death in 1871 (15th April - the census was dated 2nd April that year). Thanks very much in advance to anyone who can help. Leslie ======== Record Inspector http://www.recordinspector.co.uk

Hi Len, Here goes: 5th October 1812 John Finlay Gunner in the 2nd Battallion Royal Artillary in Haddington. and Margt. Henderson in High School Close Canongate Daughter of George Henderson, Wright there, gave up their names for Marriage. The Residence of the Parties and other particulars stated in the Marriage Lines are certified by the said George Henderson and Archd. Smith Wright in Canongate Edin. .. Good luck with the paintings! Best Wishes, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "len wood" <lwood0459@rogers.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [MLN] Canongate proclamations 1812 spares > Hi Jane > > How are you doing?Everyone in good health I hope. > Can you please send the John Finlay details just in case he is connected > to > my Agnes Finlay/Gleadhill. > I am hoping to get a T S Hutton painting or two on Tuesday at auction in > Newcastle- there are 10 for sale! Lots of decisions to make this weekend > before I submit absentee bids in case they don't get me on the phone at > auction time.Heres hoping!! > > Regards > Len > > Regards > Len > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:44 AM > Subject: [MLN] Canongate proclamations 1812 spares > > >> I have a few spare proclamations for marriages in the Parish of Canongate >> October 1812 >> The names are: >> Robert BONE m Elizabeth LIDDEL >> John FINLAY m Margaret HENDERSON >> William GRANT m Ann REID >> John CAMPBELL m Margaret LYLE >> >> Let me know if you would like the details. >> >> Best Wishes, >> Jane >> >> > >

Hello Lorraine While Downloading some death certs last night some extra ones included the following:- On November 15th.1919 at 11.30 a.m. at 23 Buicleuch Street, Edinburgh, Sarah Fraser aged 48years died (Cancer of the Breast) wife of James Fraser, Shoemaker. Her parents were William Welsh, Blacksmith (deceased) and Jane Welsh (M.S. Fraser) (deceased). Just thought it might be of interest to you Regards Carmel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorraine (araine322)" <araine322@verizon.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:53 PM Subject: [MLN] FRASER, STODDART, SUTHERLAND, McINTIRE, AITKIN, GRANT > > > Hello All, > > It's been a while so I thought I'd throw my interests out again. I'm > researching my Dad's maternal side - the FRASERs of Edinburgh > > FRASER: > 1. Andrew b. ? (m. Charlotte SUTHERLAND) > 2. Daniel 1800 (m. Elizabeth STODDART), Angus 1801, Donald 1803 > 3. Mary 1829, Andrew 1831, Daniel 1834, James 1837, Christina Christensen > 1839 (m. a Stephen THOMPSON and a Mr. McINTIRE had son James McINTIRE c. > 1862), Thomas 1847 & Magnus 1849 > > SUTHERLAND: > 1. Donald/Daniel a farmer in Dornoch in 1800 (m. Mary GRANT) > 2. Charlotte 1776 (married an Andrew FRASER in 1800 Canongate) > > STODDART: > 1. James m. (Mary AITKIN) > 2. Elizabeth 1808 (m. a Daniel FRASER in 1827 Old Kirk Parish), Mary 1810, > Barbara 1812, Christian 1814, Helen 1817 & Thomas 1818 > > If any of these names ring a bell with anyone, I'd LOVE to hear from you. > > Thanks Much and Happy Hunting, > Lorraine > > > >

Can't help with census, did a check on the FHC/LDS data available for them but only found these two entries, you have the marriage. Have no additional data or interest in this surname. Seasons greetings Bob ======================================================================= WILSON, Thomas Marriage Wife: Ellen MACINTOSH Marriage Date: 4 Sep 1860 Recorded in: St Peter, Dublin, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Thomas WILSON Wife's Father: William MACKINTOSH Source: FHL Film 101416 Dates: 1860 - 1860 ===================================================== BARBARA HERKES WILSON Female Event(s): Birth: 06 DEC 1863 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Parents: Father: THOMAS WILSON Family Mother: HELEN MC INTOSH Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C116852 1863 - 1869 6035516 REGISTER Film NONE ============================================================== -----Original Message----- <SNIP> Subject: [MLN] 1861 and/or 1871 Census lookup request I'm looking for a family of Wilsons, most likely in Edinburgh. Thomas WILSON (head) was posted to Dublin with the Scots Greys in 1860, but his daughter Barbara Herkes WILSON was born in Edinburgh in 1863,

Hi Jane How are you doing?Everyone in good health I hope. Can you please send the John Finlay details just in case he is connected to my Agnes Finlay/Gleadhill. I am hoping to get a T S Hutton painting or two on Tuesday at auction in Newcastle- there are 10 for sale! Lots of decisions to make this weekend before I submit absentee bids in case they don't get me on the phone at auction time.Heres hoping!! Regards Len Regards Len ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:44 AM Subject: [MLN] Canongate proclamations 1812 spares > I have a few spare proclamations for marriages in the Parish of Canongate > October 1812 > The names are: > Robert BONE m Elizabeth LIDDEL > John FINLAY m Margaret HENDERSON > William GRANT m Ann REID > John CAMPBELL m Margaret LYLE > > Let me know if you would like the details. > > Best Wishes, > Jane > >

I have a few spare proclamations for marriages in the Parish of Canongate October 1812 The names are: Robert BONE m Elizabeth LIDDEL John FINLAY m Margaret HENDERSON William GRANT m Ann REID John CAMPBELL m Margaret LYLE Let me know if you would like the details. Best Wishes, Jane

Lorraine, I am researching the Aitken family and have gone as back to William Aitken (b 1794) and married a Mary Patterson. Is this any connection to your line of Aitkens ? They are from Prestonpans Prestonkirk area Haddington Co. Thanks Tom Stewart -----Original Message----- From: Lorraine (araine322) [mailto:araine322@verizon.net] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 8:54 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] FRASER, STODDART, SUTHERLAND, McINTIRE, AITKIN, GRANT Hello All, It's been a while so I thought I'd throw my interests out again. I'm researching my Dad's maternal side - the FRASERs of Edinburgh FRASER: 1. Andrew b. ? (m. Charlotte SUTHERLAND) 2. Daniel 1800 (m. Elizabeth STODDART), Angus 1801, Donald 1803 3. Mary 1829, Andrew 1831, Daniel 1834, James 1837, Christina Christensen 1839 (m. a Stephen THOMPSON and a Mr. McINTIRE had son James McINTIRE c. 1862), Thomas 1847 & Magnus 1849 SUTHERLAND: 1. Donald/Daniel a farmer in Dornoch in 1800 (m. Mary GRANT) 2. Charlotte 1776 (married an Andrew FRASER in 1800 Canongate) STODDART: 1. James m. (Mary AITKIN) 2. Elizabeth 1808 (m. a Daniel FRASER in 1827 Old Kirk Parish), Mary 1810, Barbara 1812, Christian 1814, Helen 1817 & Thomas 1818 If any of these names ring a bell with anyone, I'd LOVE to hear from you. Thanks Much and Happy Hunting, Lorraine

Hi Jane, When you have time, I am Interested in the Elizabeth Liddel proclamation, Thanks Chuck roger kelly <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> wrote: I have a few spare proclamations for marriages in the Parish of Canongate October 1812 The names are: Robert BONE m Elizabeth LIDDEL John FINLAY m Margaret HENDERSON William GRANT m Ann REID John CAMPBELL m Margaret LYLE Let me know if you would like the details. Best Wishes, Jane

Hello All, It's been a while so I thought I'd throw my interests out again. I'm researching my Dad's maternal side - the FRASERs of Edinburgh FRASER: 1. Andrew b. ? (m. Charlotte SUTHERLAND) 2. Daniel 1800 (m. Elizabeth STODDART), Angus 1801, Donald 1803 3. Mary 1829, Andrew 1831, Daniel 1834, James 1837, Christina Christensen 1839 (m. a Stephen THOMPSON and a Mr. McINTIRE had son James McINTIRE c. 1862), Thomas 1847 & Magnus 1849 SUTHERLAND: 1. Donald/Daniel a farmer in Dornoch in 1800 (m. Mary GRANT) 2. Charlotte 1776 (married an Andrew FRASER in 1800 Canongate) STODDART: 1. James m. (Mary AITKIN) 2. Elizabeth 1808 (m. a Daniel FRASER in 1827 Old Kirk Parish), Mary 1810, Barbara 1812, Christian 1814, Helen 1817 & Thomas 1818 If any of these names ring a bell with anyone, I'd LOVE to hear from you. Thanks Much and Happy Hunting, Lorraine

Dear Listers, Would anyone have access to the 1881 census for Liberton, Midl. I am looking for George Shaw and family, sorry I don't have an address. Do hope someone can help. Thanks, Mary In Australia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.805 / Virus Database: 547 - Release Date: 3/12/2004

Below are a few George Shaw and family extracts, there are only two with the census done in Liberton. Sometimes you would think the census should be in one town or village area but in fact it is recorded in a neighbouring area. -------------------------------------------------- Dwelling: 45 Whitehill St Census Place: Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224022 GRO Ref Volume 693 EnumDist 5 Page 6 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Hugh SHAW M 46 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Isabella SHAW M 44 F Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Margaret SHAW U 21 F Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: net Weaver Henry SHAW U 19 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner Isabella SHAW U 17 F Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Net Weaver Allison SHAW 14 F Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Cotton Spinner Christina SHAW 12 F Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar George SHAW 10 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar David SHAW 7 M Inveresk, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Annie SHAW 4 F Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur ------------------------------------------------ Dwelling: Main Road Census Place: Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224022 GRO Ref Volume 693 EnumDist 7 Page 41 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George SHAW M 35 M Lasswade, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Colliery Engineer Georgina SHAW M 35 F St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Colliery Engineer Wife Margaret SHAW 11 F Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Elizabeth SHAW 8 F Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Hannah SHAW 6 F Gilmerton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar David SHAW 3 M Gilmerton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son George SHAW 8 m M Gilmerton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Son ------------------------------------- Dwelling: 3 Herriot St Census Place: Eastwood, Renfrew, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203568 GRO Ref Volume 562 EnumDist 9 Page 45 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Geo. C. SHAW M 29 M Boness, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Storeman In Bonded Warehouse Cath. SHAW M 29 F Strathbungo Rel: Wife Hannah F. SHAW 6 F Glasgow Rel: Daur Geo. C. SHAW 2 M P Shaws ----------------------------------------------------------------- Dwelling: 21 Main Street Census Place: Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203706 GRO Ref Volume 662-2 EnumDist 1 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Janet SHAW W 61 F Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Head Handicap: Imbecile John SHAW W 24 M Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner Wm. SHAW U 22 M Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner Geo. SHAW U 20 M Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner Georgina MARTIN 14 F Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Servant Occ: Domestic Servant ----------------------------------------------------------- Dwelling: 2 Hill St Census Place: Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203706 GRO Ref Volume 662-1 EnumDist 5 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William SHAW M 32 M Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Ann SHAW M 34 F Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland Rel: Wife William SHAW 10 M N Benhar, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Christina SHAW 7 F Kirfin, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Janet SHAW 5 F Kirfin, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar George SHAW 2 M Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland Rel: Son Agnes SHAW 1 m F Bathgate, Linlithgow, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------ Dwelling: Mayfield Cottage E Mayfield Census Place: Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224010 GRO Ref Volume 685-5 EnumDist 76 Page 15 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George SHAW M 67 M Locherby, Dumfries, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Retired Saddler Ann SHAW M 68 F Liberton, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Wife Ann SHAW U 28 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Teacher Janet SHAW U 23 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Teacher Euphemia SHAW U 21 F Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland -------------------------------------------------------- ================================================ -----Original Message----- Subject: [MLN] 1881 census lookup please Would anyone have access to the 1881 census for Liberton, Midl. I am looking for George Shaw and family, sorry I don't have an address.

Mary 1881 Census. There is a George Shaw living at - Main Road, Liberton - he is a Colliery Engineer aged 35yrs. b. Lasswade. Midlothian. wife - Georgina - age 35yrs. - b. St. Cuthberts, Edinburgh. dau - Margaret - age 11yrs. - b. Liberton. dau. - Elizabeth - age 8yrs. - b. Liberton. dau. - Hannah - age 6yrs. - b. Gilmerton, Edinburgh. son - David - age 3yrs. - b. Gilmerton. son - George - age 8mths. - b. Gilmerton. Is this your family? Regards, Patricia.

Hugh, I appreciate the valid word of warning when you say ... "A word of caution on Janet Churnside. Chirnside (i not u) is a small town southeast of Haddington. Be sure the name is right and not picking up a home parish as part of a name." As Black's surnames mentions - the name CHIRNSIDE (and many variants) derives "from the place of this name in Berwickshire". In the case that I quoted - of a Janet CHURNSIDE marrying Benjamin THOMSON in 1826 - I have already found other supporting evidence to suggest that this was in fact her family name. I believe that she is the baptism referred to in the IGI (10 Mar 1799 Cockpen - parents David CHURNSIDE & Isabel HENDERSON). I have also found her in the 1851 census at 32/2 Arthur Street, St Cuthberts - aged 50, born Cockpen - in which she is listed as the wife of Benjamin THOMSON, but described as Janet CHIRNYSIDE. Their eldest son Benjamin (born abt 1826/7 Dalkeith) married Jane SMITH on 17 Jun 1851 at the United Presbyterian Church, Infirmary Street, Cowgate - and they named one of their children Jessie CHURNSIDE Thomson (born 13 Sep 1860). So in this case, I suspect that I am safe in concluding that her maiden surname really was CHURNSIDE. Duncan, Dundee

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Dunbar" <idunbar@iinet.net.au> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: Alexander STEWART > Did you get to the LDS site? > > If you did click on the Search Button at the top of the page and then enter > the search criteria. > > Let me know if you are still having trouble, via my personal email. > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janine H" <catsrule@thehouse.net.au> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:49 PM > Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: Alexander STEWART > > > > Hi Ian, > > > > I tried that but don't seem to be getting what you're getting??? > > > > Cheers > > Janine > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ian Dunbar" <idunbar@iinet.net.au> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 9:14 PM > > Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: Alexander STEWART > > > > > > > Hi Janine, > > > > > > I just did a quick search on the LDS website and came up with the > > following > > > marriages: > > > > > > Alexander Stewart M Elizabeth Ferguson, 5/6/1825, St Cuthberts Edinburgh > > > > > > Alexander Stewart M Elizabeth Dunlop 27/9/1831, South Leith > > > > > > Alexander Stewart M Elizabeth Carr 20/10/1834, St Cuthberts > > > > > > (I had people living in Leith and South Lieth who were also married at > St > > > Cuthberts) > > > > > > I also found 3 children born to a Alexander Stewart and Elizabeth Hay in > > > Leith around your timeframe. > > > > > > Go to www.familysearch.org and follow the prompts. > > > > > > Good luck, > > > > > > Ian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janine H" <catsrule@thehouse.net.au> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:31 PM > > > Subject: [MLN] Fw: Alexander STEWART > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I'm just new to this list and wanted to make enquiries about the > > > Stewart family of Leith. Alexander, his wife Elizabeth ? and four > > children > > > sailed to Australia as an assisted passenger on the Duchess of > > > Northemberland on 6 Aug 1839. I have information that he appears on the > > > Register of Emmigrant Labourers No 4624, Embarkation No. 3250. I'm not > > sure > > > if this information is available from South Australia. I am seeking his > > > town of origin, and possibly a marriage and or parents names?. His > oldest > > > child was 13 at the time, so their marriage is circa 1826 ish. He was a > > > Shepherd at the time. I would appreciate your kind help. > > > > > > > > Cheers and Thanks > > > > Janine Hinton > > > > South Australia > > > > > >

Hi Janet = no message came through Dot

Please please please help or advise. I am really stuck. I am looking ( unsuccessfully) for James Cameron DALZIEL born about 1812 in Glasgow and Jessie SUTHERLAND born about 1815 Edinburgh. Also for their marriage. A son Daniel was born in Wick Caithness in 1847. Next child was born in Birkenhead Cheshire England. I have information after their move to England but CANNOT find them in Scotland. I have looked on Scotland's People I have found:1. 19.3.1807 John DALZEL parents James DALZEL & Mary CAMERON St Cuthbert's Edinburgh 2. 21.4.1805 Jon DALZELL parents James DALZELL & Mary CAMERON Inveresk I am guessing that one of these could be James Cameron DALZIEL's brother BUT I still can't find any further information on James or his possible parents what do I do next????? PLEASE HELP Dot