Good afternoon, I am new to this list and from info I have been sent and subsequent searches I find myself in Midlothian! Cananybody help with the following family please? Robert Dalglish was my ggg-grandfather and he married Catherine Smyth (who was from Bristol) in Birmingham in 1849. The family remained there and hence I am also from Birmingham originally. DALGLEISH David M 35 Letter Carrier Midlothian DALGLEISH Harriet F 35 Midlothian DALGLEISH Robert M 12 Midlothian - ancestor DALGLEISH William M 10 Midlothian DALGLEISH George M 9 Midlothian DALGLEISH James M 7 Midlothian DALGLEISH Agnes F 4 Midlothian DARGIE William M 3 Midlothian Piece: SCT1841/685/2 Place: Edinb.St Andrew-Midlothian Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: St Cuthberts Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 12 Page: 1 Address: 9 Mid Arthur Place Jennifer Devon UK

Carole, I use Legacy, and it does that, as Elieen says. Just in case, though, I've put one up at my web site http://www.recordinspector.co.uk/freebies.html (at the bottom of the page). This is what you get in Legacy. It's under Reports, then on the Books/Other tab. Leslie On 14/01/2005 18:57:59, midlothian-l@rootsweb.com wrote: > Does someone know of a site which would give me the relationship of one > family member to another? > Thank you >Carole -- Kodiak Web Design http://www.kodiak-web-design.com

Carole, Ther is a Relationship Chart at http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/chart_relations.htm and another site has links to a Chart plus a number of other useful 'calculator' type things (calendars, naming patterns etc) at http://www.telusplanet.net/public/mtoll/howto2.htm Duncan, Dundee

Does someone know of a site which would give me the relationship of one family member to another? Thank you Carole

Bob, I deleted your original message, because I didn't think I could help, but I might be able to if you are interested in Sonia's suggestion. I work in Bathgate - I've searched for my own relative unsuccessfully in the old kirkyard there, but I could look for yours. There is no index or even caretaker as far as I can make out, so it may take a while. Send me any info you have and I'll see what I can do. Reply here if you want, or contact me off list, whichever you prefer. leslie@kodiak-web-design.com Leslie On 14/01/2005 13:41:27, midlothian-l@rootsweb.com wrote: > Bob, see if you can get SKS in the Durhamtown- Bathgate area to see if > there > is a gravestone for him in the local cemetery. If there is, it may give > you > his birthplace. Also, others in the same family plot may have come > from the > same place. Don't know if there was a local newspaper that might have > had > his obituaryu? Just a thought. >Happy hunting, >Sonia in the U.S. >-----Original Message----- > From: Bob [mailto:hiflyte@telus.net] > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:33 PM > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MLN] NORTON - McAfee >List Members, >This is my semi annual attempt to find the place of birth (POB) of the -- Kodiak Web Design http://www.kodiak-web-design.com

Carole: Your genealogy software program will do that for you. I know that Family Tree Maker and Legacy can do it; Try the Help menu. Eileen > Does someone know of a site which would give me the relationship of one > family member to another? > Thank you > > Carole

Dear Barbara and list, I'm sorry that I haven't answered before but for some reason this email didn't go from my out box and I have just found it. Please accept my apologies. Mary. Hi Barbara, Thanks so much, if one can go on the naming pattern and the dates ect. these are my Shaw's, but I'm not sure about James and Robert, so will have to do some more checking. According to the IGI they were definitely born Tranent, E. Lothian. The Kilsyth James is definately not mine. Your help is really appreciated. Regards, Mary. Qld Aus. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 12/01/2005

Hi Marion, Thank you for your reply, no connection, but I dont have much on the FYFE's regards Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Fyfe" <Marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: [MLN] Fyfe > Hi Kerry, > > My Fyfes come from Clackmannanshire/ Perthshire. I've got back to John Fyfe > who was born in 1821 in Blairingone, Perthshire. His parents were James Fyfe > and Margaret Hynd, they were coal miners. > > Cheers > > Marion > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kerry Dougall" <kdou3635@hotmail.com> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: [MLN] Nicol > > > > Hi Marion, > > A bit of a long shot but saw the name FYFE. > > I have some FYFE's in my tree a James FYFE b: 28 Jun 1827, Leochell > > Cushnie,Aberdeenshire, married Isobel COBBAN b: 1826 Keig, Aberdeenshire > > They had 5 children that I know of > > Mary FYFE b: Abt 1849 married John CARLE > > John FYFE b: Abt 1850, Keig, d: 2 may 1873 15 Hope Street, > > Greenock,Renfrewshire > > Rachel Jane FYFE b: Abt 1853 Tullynessle > > Isabella FYFE b: 4 sep 1858 Broad Bog, Tullynessle married William MEARNS > > Jane FYFE b: 19 Mar 1863 Broad Bog, Tullynessle > > married William RENNIE > > > > any connections? > > regards > > Kerry > > Queensland,Australia > > > > >

Bob, see if you can get SKS in the Durhamtown- Bathgate area to see if there is a gravestone for him in the local cemetery. If there is, it may give you his birthplace. Also, others in the same family plot may have come from the same place. Don't know if there was a local newspaper that might have had his obituaryu? Just a thought. Happy hunting, Sonia in the U.S. -----Original Message----- From: Bob [mailto:hiflyte@telus.net] Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:33 PM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] NORTON - McAfee List Members, This is my semi annual attempt to find the place of birth (POB) of the Patrick Norton clan. The only clue is that Michael Norton of 45 South Bridge St. Bathgate (1881 census) stated on the form that his POB was Queens, Ireland, did he mean Queens county or Queentown (Cobh). His wife Elizabeth is a sister of Mary Ann (McAfee) Norton, this makes me believe that Michael is related to Patrick Norton. In fact I would bet there is a connection between all of them. Who has the link? Posted this note to a number of lists that I subscribe to, someone may connect. If anyone could add a piece to this puzzle it sure would help break down the door. Thank you Bob Cdn. ====================================================== NORTON Patrick, born Ireland (Queens?) ca. 1842, died Scotland ca 1904. McAFEE/McFIE, Mary (Anne) , born, ca 1853, Whitburn WLN Sct. died 1881, Bathgate, Durhamtown, WLN, Sct. Married 1870 Bathgate WLN Sct. Bathgate WLN Sct. M Patrick Norton did not remarry. Lived in Durhamtown, Bathgate, mining area outside the main town of Bathgate. Children of Patrick and MaryAnn Norton Ann Norton: born 23 Jul 1871 Michael Norton: born 16 Mar 1873 Jas Norton: born 1876 NORTON Michael, father of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died Ireland(?) DUNN(e) Mary, mother of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died Ireland(?) McAFEE James, father of Mary (Anne), born 1823, Ireland , died ca 1885 Sct. SHEARER Ann, mother of Mary (Anne), born, 1836, Ireland u/k, died Sct. Children of James and MaryAnne McAfee,(McFie) MaryAnne McAfee, born 1853, died 9 July 1881, as above James McAfee, born, 7 Mar 1855, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Elizabeth McAfee, born 17 Aug 1855, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Ann, McAfee, born 1870, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Hugh McAfee, born 1863, Blackburn, WLN, Sct Hannah McAfee, born 1866, Bathgate, WLN, Sct There are other Nortons living in Bathgate WLN, Sct. They may or may not be related. 1871 Norton John, Durhamtown, Bathgate, WLN Sct. Born Ireland, approx. 1841 Wife Margaret, born 1823 Ireland Mary 1865, Bathgate Ellen, 1869, Bathgate Elizabeth Whelan, Stepdaughter, born 1853, Bathgate James, 1858, Bathgate Patrick, 1870, Bathgate Other Nortons1881 Census Bathgate area Norton Hugh, Durhamtown Bathgate, born, 1821, Ireland Norton Kate, Wife, born, 1827, Ireland Jas, 1860, Ireland William, 1858, Ireland Thomas, 1864, Ireland Rose, 1866, Ireland Mary, 1868, Ireland Norton, Michael, Bathgate, born, 1853, Ireland Norton, (McAfee, McFie) Elizabeth wife, born, 1857, Whithorn (Whitburn) WLN, Sct. (sister of MaryAnn Norton married to Patrick Norton) Catherine, born, 1874, Bathgate, WLN Sct. James, born 1878, Bathgate, WLN. Sct. Hugh, born 1880, Bathgate, WLN. Sct. Norton John, Bathgate Margaret, wife, born 1860, Bathgate, WLN Sct. Catherine, born 1880, Bathgate, WLN Sct. --------------------------------------------------------------

List Members, This is my semi annual attempt to find the place of birth (POB) of the Patrick Norton clan. The only clue is that Michael Norton of 45 South Bridge St. Bathgate (1881 census) stated on the form that his POB was Queens, Ireland, did he mean Queens county or Queentown (Cobh). His wife Elizabeth is a sister of Mary Ann (McAfee) Norton, this makes me believe that Michael is related to Patrick Norton. In fact I would bet there is a connection between all of them. Who has the link? Posted this note to a number of lists that I subscribe to, someone may connect. If anyone could add a piece to this puzzle it sure would help break down the door. Thank you Bob Cdn. ====================================================== NORTON Patrick, born Ireland (Queens?) ca. 1842, died Scotland ca 1904. McAFEE/McFIE, Mary (Anne) , born, ca 1853, Whitburn WLN Sct. died 1881, Bathgate, Durhamtown, WLN, Sct. Married 1870 Bathgate WLN Sct. Bathgate WLN Sct. M Patrick Norton did not remarry. Lived in Durhamtown, Bathgate, mining area outside the main town of Bathgate. Children of Patrick and MaryAnn Norton Ann Norton: born 23 Jul 1871 Michael Norton: born 16 Mar 1873 Jas Norton: born 1876 NORTON Michael, father of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died Ireland(?) DUNN(e) Mary, mother of Patrick, born Ireland u/k, died Ireland(?) McAFEE James, father of Mary (Anne), born 1823, Ireland , died ca 1885 Sct. SHEARER Ann, mother of Mary (Anne), born, 1836, Ireland u/k, died Sct. Children of James and MaryAnne McAfee,(McFie) MaryAnne McAfee, born 1853, died 9 July 1881, as above James McAfee, born, 7 Mar 1855, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Elizabeth McAfee, born 17 Aug 1855, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Ann, McAfee, born 1870, Whitburn, WLN, Sct. Hugh McAfee, born 1863, Blackburn, WLN, Sct Hannah McAfee, born 1866, Bathgate, WLN, Sct There are other Nortons living in Bathgate WLN, Sct. They may or may not be related. 1871 Norton John, Durhamtown, Bathgate, WLN Sct. Born Ireland, approx. 1841 Wife Margaret, born 1823 Ireland Mary 1865, Bathgate Ellen, 1869, Bathgate Elizabeth Whelan, Stepdaughter, born 1853, Bathgate James, 1858, Bathgate Patrick, 1870, Bathgate Other Nortons1881 Census Bathgate area Norton Hugh, Durhamtown Bathgate, born, 1821, Ireland Norton Kate, Wife, born, 1827, Ireland Jas, 1860, Ireland William, 1858, Ireland Thomas, 1864, Ireland Rose, 1866, Ireland Mary, 1868, Ireland Norton, Michael, Bathgate, born, 1853, Ireland Norton, (McAfee, McFie) Elizabeth wife, born, 1857, Whithorn (Whitburn) WLN, Sct. (sister of MaryAnn Norton married to Patrick Norton) Catherine, born, 1874, Bathgate, WLN Sct. James, born 1878, Bathgate, WLN. Sct. Hugh, born 1880, Bathgate, WLN. Sct. Norton John, Bathgate Margaret, wife, born 1860, Bathgate, WLN Sct. Catherine, born 1880, Bathgate, WLN Sct. --------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Marion, A bit of a long shot but saw the name FYFE. I have some FYFE's in my tree a James FYFE b: 28 Jun 1827, Leochell Cushnie,Aberdeenshire, married Isobel COBBAN b: 1826 Keig, Aberdeenshire They had 5 children that I know of Mary FYFE b: Abt 1849 married John CARLE John FYFE b: Abt 1850, Keig, d: 2 may 1873 15 Hope Street, Greenock,Renfrewshire Rachel Jane FYFE b: Abt 1853 Tullynessle Isabella FYFE b: 4 sep 1858 Broad Bog, Tullynessle married William MEARNS Jane FYFE b: 19 Mar 1863 Broad Bog, Tullynessle married William RENNIE any connections? regards Kerry Queensland,Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Fyfe" <Marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Nicol > Hi Elaine, > > You said you don't have any real information about May, I don't have a lot > of information of Margaret Nicol, in fact I only have her parent's names > and knowing her husband's name. Your May was married in 1817 and my Margaret > Nicol was born round about that time, 1816 is the date I have for it. > > There might be more to investigate here <g> > > Cheers > > Marion > > > > in 1817 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Elaine McNulty" <macmac3@optusnet.com.au> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MLN] Nicol > > > > Thank you for answering. I think my Nicol are a generation earlier than > > yours. May Married William Young I would think around 1794. Their > daughter > > Elizabeth married William Fraser and they emigrated to Canada and settled > in > > Quebec. I haven't any real information about May except I think I have > > found their marriage record getting them married in 1817 in Stirling. > > Although the name is spelt Nichol. > > If none of this is of interest just disregard it. Sometimes just the > small > > bit of information is useful but without any concrete information it means > > nothing. > > Thanks again > > Elaine > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marion Fyfe" <Marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:28 AM > > Subject: [MLN] Nicol > > > > > > > Hi Elaine, > > > > > > Wasn't sure if this was to me or Penny. Sorry for taking time to reply > but > > > I've had visitors over the holidays. > > > > > > I don't have too much info on my Nicols - what I've said to Penny is - > > > > > > >>> my gr gr gr grandmother Margaret Nicol > > > was born in Abercorn in 1816, this is according to the 1881 census as I > > > can't find a birth/christening record for her. From her death > certificate > > I > > > found that her parents were James Nicol and Janet Louden and I've found > > > christenings for a brother Alexander (1804) and a sister Marion (1817) > in > > > Ecclesmachen which is just beside Abercorn. > > > > > > Margaret Nicol married Robert Orr in 1836 at Crammond or Ratho and they > > > lived at Corstorphine.<<< > > > > > > I haven't found a May Nicol yet. > > > > > > Marion > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Elaine McNulty" <macmac3@optusnet.com.au> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:16 PM > > > Subject: Re: [MLN] Roll Call > > > > > > > > > > Just read your e-mail and thought I would just say I have a May NICOL > > who > > > > married William YOUNG. She was born in 1796, I think married 1817, > > died > > > > 1866. Any connection? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: <Pennynicol@aol.com> > > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:38 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [MLN] Roll Call > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marion, > > > > > > > > > > I saw your recent listing of names you are researching on the > > Midlothian > > > > > rootsweb list and I would like to ask about the Nicol family you are > > > > searching > > > > > for. I too am looking for Nicols and I guess the easiest thing to > ask > > > is > > > > do > > > > > you have a David Nicol that married Lillias Smeaton (we think from > > > > Tranent) > > > > > about 1835 and did any of your Nicols immigrate to Canada (Ontario, > > > > > specifically) around 1850? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > > > Penny > > > > > > > > > > Penny Nicol James > > > > > Katy, Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi Kerry, My Fyfes come from Clackmannanshire/ Perthshire. I've got back to John Fyfe who was born in 1821 in Blairingone, Perthshire. His parents were James Fyfe and Margaret Hynd, they were coal miners. Cheers Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Dougall" <kdou3635@hotmail.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Nicol > Hi Marion, > A bit of a long shot but saw the name FYFE. > I have some FYFE's in my tree a James FYFE b: 28 Jun 1827, Leochell > Cushnie,Aberdeenshire, married Isobel COBBAN b: 1826 Keig, Aberdeenshire > They had 5 children that I know of > Mary FYFE b: Abt 1849 married John CARLE > John FYFE b: Abt 1850, Keig, d: 2 may 1873 15 Hope Street, > Greenock,Renfrewshire > Rachel Jane FYFE b: Abt 1853 Tullynessle > Isabella FYFE b: 4 sep 1858 Broad Bog, Tullynessle married William MEARNS > Jane FYFE b: 19 Mar 1863 Broad Bog, Tullynessle > married William RENNIE > > any connections? > regards > Kerry > Queensland,Australia >

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:58:04 -0800, <tktiger@highstream.net> wrote: >Hi fellow Listers - Just curious.... My line is Petrie, from Bathgate at least to very early 1800s - my grandfather, however, said he was related to Sir William Mathew Flinders Petrie (don't know how - all deceased). In a biography, British author Margaret Drower mentions that that Petrie line could connect to the "famous Scottish divine" Alexander Petrie (1700s). Anyone out there know anything about this Alexander Petrie and what a "divine" might be? Thanks! Kit (Petrie) Timmons Sheena mentioned an Arthur Petrie, who lived in the 1700s, but I suspect your Alexander was a bit earlier than that. The following article on Alexander Petrie is taken from the Dictionary of National Biography, and should give you a good idea of who he was and what he did. There's a list of sources at the end, should you want to investigate further! ============ Petrie, Alexander 1594?-1662, Scottish divine, born about 1594, was third son of Alexander Petrie, merchant and burgess of Montrose. He studied at the university of St Andrews, and graduated MA in 1615. From 1620 to 1630 he was master of the grammar school of Montrose. Having received a presentation to the parish of Rhynd, Perthshire, from Charles I, he was ordained by Archbishop Spotiswood in July 1632, and inducted to the charge by the presbytery of Perth. Petrie joined heartily in the covenanting movement, and was in 1638 a member of the general assembly held at Glasgow which overthrew episcopacy. In several subsequent assemblies he took an active part as a member of committees. In 1642 a Scottish church was founded in Rotterdam for Scottish merchants, soldiers, and sailors, and Petrie was selected as the first minister by the presbytery of Edinburgh. He was approved by the general assembly, and was inducted by the classis or presbytery of Rotterdam on 30 Aug. 1643. The salary was provided by the States-General and the city authorities, and the church formed part of the Dutch ecclesiastical establishment; but it was exempt from the use of the Dutch liturgical formularies, and was allowed to retain the Scottish usages. The introduction of puritan innovations in the church at Rotterdam soon afterwards caused much discord, as many of the members were warmly attached to the old forms prescribed in Knox's Liturgy. These difficulties were eventually overcome, mainly owing to Petrie's influence. In 1644 Petrie published at Rotterdam a pamphlet entitled "Chiliasto Mastix, or the Prophecies in the Old and New Testament concerning the Kingdom of our Saviour Jesus Christ vindicated from the Misinterpretations of the Millenaries, and specially of Mr. [Robert] Maton, in his book called 'Israel's Redemption.'" Maton's book had been taken up by the independents and baptists, and had been widely circulated among Petrie's flock, and this pamphlet was written as an antidote. In 1649 Petrie was employed in some of the negotiations with Charles II, who was then in Holland. During the later years of his life he devoted much time to the preparation of his great work, 'A Compendious History of the Catholic Church from the year 600 until the year 1600, showing her Deformation and Reformation,' etc, a folio volume published at the Hague by Adrian Black in 1662. The chief interest of the work, which displays considerable learning and research, lies in the fact that it contains copious extracts from the records of the early general assemblies of the church of Scotland, which were destroyed by fire in Edinburgh in 1701. Petrie died in September 1662. He was highly esteemed by his fellow-citizens and by the Dutch clergy, and the congregation largely increased during his ministry. There is a portrait of Petrie in possession of the consistory, of which an engraving is given in Stevens's 'History of the Scottish Church, Rotterdam.' It is a face indicative of sagacity and force of character, and does not belie the reputation Petrie had of possessing a somewhat hasty temper. He left two sons - Alexander, minister of the Scots church at Delft; George, an apothecary - and three daughters: Christian, married to Andrew Snype, minister of the Scots church at Campvere; Isobel, married, first to William Wallace, merchant, secondly to Robert Allan; and Elspeth, married to George Murray. Sources Scot's Fasti Eccl Scot; Stevens's Hist of the Scottish Church, Rotterdam; Baillie's Letters; Wilson's Presbytery of Perth; the Scottish Church, Rotterdam, 250th Anniversary, Amsterdam, 1894. ==================== Forrest -- Forrest Anderson - British Military Genealogical Researcher. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com

A "divine" is a fancy name for a minister or priest. This Petrie seems to be Arthur, rather than Alexander. He was of the Scottish Episcopal Church and was Bishop of Moray. He seems to have been Bishop of Argyll before that. His dates were 1730-1787. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- From: tktiger@highstream.net [mailto:tktiger@highstream.net] Sent: 12 January 2005 19:58 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Just curious Hi fellow Listers - Just curious.... My line is Petrie, from Bathgate at least to very early 1800s - my grandfather, however, said he was related to Sir William Mathew Flinders Petrie (don't know how - all deceased). In a biography, British author Margaret Drower mentions that that Petrie line could connect to the "famous Scottish divine" Alexander Petrie (1700s). Anyone out there know anything about this Alexander Petrie and what a "divine" might be? Thanks! Kit (Petrie) Timmons

Hi Elaine, You said you don't have any real information about May, I don't have a lot of information of Margaret Nicol, in fact I only have her parent's names and knowing her husband's name. Your May was married in 1817 and my Margaret Nicol was born round about that time, 1816 is the date I have for it. There might be more to investigate here <g> Cheers Marion in 1817 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elaine McNulty" <macmac3@optusnet.com.au> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [MLN] Nicol > Thank you for answering. I think my Nicol are a generation earlier than > yours. May Married William Young I would think around 1794. Their daughter > Elizabeth married William Fraser and they emigrated to Canada and settled in > Quebec. I haven't any real information about May except I think I have > found their marriage record getting them married in 1817 in Stirling. > Although the name is spelt Nichol. > If none of this is of interest just disregard it. Sometimes just the small > bit of information is useful but without any concrete information it means > nothing. > Thanks again > Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marion Fyfe" <Marioncfyfe@btopenworld.com> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:28 AM > Subject: [MLN] Nicol > > > > Hi Elaine, > > > > Wasn't sure if this was to me or Penny. Sorry for taking time to reply but > > I've had visitors over the holidays. > > > > I don't have too much info on my Nicols - what I've said to Penny is - > > > > >>> my gr gr gr grandmother Margaret Nicol > > was born in Abercorn in 1816, this is according to the 1881 census as I > > can't find a birth/christening record for her. From her death certificate > I > > found that her parents were James Nicol and Janet Louden and I've found > > christenings for a brother Alexander (1804) and a sister Marion (1817) in > > Ecclesmachen which is just beside Abercorn. > > > > Margaret Nicol married Robert Orr in 1836 at Crammond or Ratho and they > > lived at Corstorphine.<<< > > > > I haven't found a May Nicol yet. > > > > Marion > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Elaine McNulty" <macmac3@optusnet.com.au> > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [MLN] Roll Call > > > > > > > Just read your e-mail and thought I would just say I have a May NICOL > who > > > married William YOUNG. She was born in 1796, I think married 1817, > died > > > 1866. Any connection? > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Pennynicol@aol.com> > > > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 8:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: [MLN] Roll Call > > > > > > > > > > Dear Marion, > > > > > > > > I saw your recent listing of names you are researching on the > Midlothian > > > > rootsweb list and I would like to ask about the Nicol family you are > > > searching > > > > for. I too am looking for Nicols and I guess the easiest thing to ask > > is > > > do > > > > you have a David Nicol that married Lillias Smeaton (we think from > > > Tranent) > > > > about 1835 and did any of your Nicols immigrate to Canada (Ontario, > > > > specifically) around 1850? > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > > > Penny > > > > > > > > Penny Nicol James > > > > Katy, Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hi listers, Does anyone know when the latest estimate for the Scotland's People website update will be?? Originally they said all the censuses would be available in Mid 04. That then changed to end of 04 and now we are in 05?? Any news?? Gavin...

Hi Sheena - Thank you for this information..... there could be a connection to an Arthur as well. I'll share this with my "chance encounter" Petrie, and see if it fits his group, as well! Kit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Ireland" <ireland@pavilion.co.uk> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: [MLN] RE: Just curious > A "divine" is a fancy name for a minister or priest. > > This Petrie seems to be Arthur, rather than Alexander. He was of the > Scottish Episcopal Church and was Bishop of Moray. He seems to have been > Bishop of Argyll before that. His dates were 1730-1787. > > Best wishes, > Sheena Ireland > > -----Original Message----- > From: tktiger@highstream.net [mailto:tktiger@highstream.net] > Sent: 12 January 2005 19:58 > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Just curious > > > Hi fellow Listers - Just curious.... My line is Petrie, from Bathgate at > least to very early 1800s - my grandfather, however, said he was related to > Sir William Mathew Flinders Petrie (don't know how - all deceased). In a > biography, British author Margaret Drower mentions that that Petrie line > could connect to the "famous Scottish divine" Alexander Petrie (1700s). > Anyone out there know anything about this Alexander Petrie and what a > "divine" might be? Thanks! Kit (Petrie) Timmons > > >

Hi fellow Listers - Just curious.... My line is Petrie, from Bathgate at least to very early 1800s - my grandfather, however, said he was related to Sir William Mathew Flinders Petrie (don't know how - all deceased). In a biography, British author Margaret Drower mentions that that Petrie line could connect to the "famous Scottish divine" Alexander Petrie (1700s). Anyone out there know anything about this Alexander Petrie and what a "divine" might be? Thanks! Kit (Petrie) Timmons

They have updated the information on the website .. What's in the data base link... Looks like plan is 1871 Census in Spring 2005 and the others later in 2005. Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland

Thank you for the reply! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Gil & Sonia Murray [mailto:happyman70@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:27 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MLN] Scotland's People Census update?? Lowden/Taylor, Pittenweem - Cupar Kathy, I don't know if any of them came to the U.S., but wouldn't be surprised. James Pocock Sr. who was born in England m Ann Lowden at Cupar. Hugh Eskew Stephenson was also born in England. Their children James Pocock and Isabella Stephenson married at Edinburgh in 1839, and this couple's daughter Isabella Pocock went to London and married William Jordan Fuller - my GG's. There are several variant spellings of Lowden in the Pittenweem and Cupar OPR's, all records of the same family. (I'm the first known US generation, married an American in 1955.) All the best, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Gregory [mailto:gregory@giantcomm.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 9:07 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MLN] Scotland's People Census update?? Lowden/Taylor, Pittenweem - Cupar Sonia, did your LOUDON keep the same spelling when they came to the USA? Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Gil & Sonia Murray [mailto:happyman70@bellsouth.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 7:57 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MLN] Scotland's People Census update?? Lowden/Taylor, Pittenweem - Cupar Does this mean the 1851 Edinburgh will be released in full? I'm hoping to find my Stephenson family in or near Fleshmarket Close, where they were in 1841. When I can get out of the house again - had surgery so it will be a while - I'm going to order the film at the LDS. We're still hoping to go to Pittenweem this year. JAMES LOUDON - JANNET TAYLOR were probably married in the vicinity as they had children baptised there from 1768 to 1776. Can't find them in OPR's 1777 - 1782. James Lowden became jailer at Cupar by 1783, when he is so described in Cupar OPR's - he and Jannet had children baptised at Cupar from 1783 to 1789, including Ann, my line, bapt. 1785. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Will be glad to share what I have on the family. Happy hunting, Sonia (warm and sunny Biloxi, MS USA) -----Original Message----- From: Margaret [mailto:margaret@scottishwool.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 4:50 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] Scotland's People Census update?? They have updated the information on the website .. What's in the data base link... Looks like plan is 1871 Census in Spring 2005 and the others later in 2005. Robin -- Robin and Margaret McEwen-King Lanark Scotland