Hi Merrylee, I notice that all the occupations are mentioned except Alexander Waddell. I wonder if that was an oversight or was not recorded. I have some Waddell/Weddell/Waddle/Weddel's in my line that I am trying to place. Thanks, gretchen Michigan USA

Hi Donald, I have a Robert Combe/Margaret Gray whose son Robert Combe married Christina Watt,whose daughter Margaret Combe married my Peter Craig in Dunbar 1884. If this is the same family, please get in touch with me. Marion > ATTACHMENT part 5 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 11:24:09 -0500 From: "Donald L. Combe" To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: COMBE COMBE Robert Combe 27 Oct 1793-c1850 was born at Garvald in East Lothian. Abt.1817 he married Margaret Gray(abt 1797 in Moreham-21 Aug 1867).I would welcome any information on this family. Donald L. Combe 89 Johnson Street Post Office Box 813 Niagara on the Lake Ontario, L0S 1J0 Phone 905 468 4175 Cell 905 932 4175 Fax 905 468 4640 ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 6 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 19:15:49 +0000 From: Sara Thomas To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] Names in Will - Whitburn /Bathgate area Thanks, Merrylee. My gt-gt-grandfather was an Edinburgh surgeon and in his 'Reminiscences' mentions fellow students by name. I'll check if he ever met up with yours. Sara Mac wrote: > Hi Sara, > > No, I'm sorry I only have the names as they were mentioned in the will. It Just says "Alexander Wilson Surgeon there".....as in Whitburn. ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 7 message/rfc822 Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2005 21:01:26 +0000 (GMT) From: JAMES ROBERTSON To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] GOODALL Hi Donald, I see you are researching both Combes and Goodalls. Do you have McIntyres there too? Regards, Jim --- "Donald L. Combe" wrote: > GOODALL > > John Goodall (1798-12 Jan 1860). On 25 Apr 1820 he > married Sarah > Anderson (1798-22 Jun 1860) at Cockburnspath, > Berwickshire. We believe > his parents to be John Goodall 1776 and Janet Bell. > In the 1840's they > came to Niagara in Canada. I would welcome any > information on this > family. > Donald L. Combe > 89 Johnson Street > Post Office Box 813 > Niagara on the Lake > Ontario, L0S 1J0 > Phone 905 468 4175 > Cell 905 932 4175 > Fax 905 468 4640 > > ______________________________ > ATTACHMENT part 8 message/rfc822 Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:52:50 +1100 From: "Elizabeth Reid" To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: MURRAY.CRAWFORD. Would anyone have access to grave inscriptions for Bathgate cemeteries? I believe my JOHN MURRAY and his wife HELEN CRAWFORD who both died in Holytown, Lanarkshire in 1853, may have been buried back in Bathgate where they originated from. In John's will he had an entry saying "Funeral money from old mason lodge" I take it that would have been the local Masonic lodge. If anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much. TIA Elizabeth. researching: MURRAY.CRAWFORD.BINNIE/BENNIE. Bathgate. COOK.WRIGHT.MURRAY.McGUFFEN.McCAIG.KELLY. Lanarkshire & Ireland. KENNEDY.YOUNG.HENRY. Co.LONDONDERRY. McCAIG/McKAIG.TURNER.HALE.CLARK. Co.DOWN. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!

Frank You don't give a date or occupation. He would probably come in at an eastern Scottish or English port. Here are all the SUIKs transcribed in 1881, with birthplace and county of residence. SUIK, William Head <1816> Suss Glou SUIK OR SINK, Benjamin Head <1848> Surr Surr SUIK OR SINK, Jane Wife <1848> Lond Surr SUIK, Antonia Bord <1855> Russ Lond SUIK, Alice Serv <1858> Surr Lond SUIK OR SINK, Ruth Dau <1876> Lond Surr SUIK OR SINK, Beeatrix Dau <1877> Lond Surr SUIK OR SINK, Ada Dau <1880> Surr Surr There is a Charles Swan born in Russia in Tynemouth, an East Coast port. Estonia was part of Russia. 1881 Census Place: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Source: FHL Film 1342227 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5082 Folio 81 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary Kelly SWAN W 42 F Newcastle On Tyne Rel: Head Occ: Iron Ship Builder Elizabeth C. SWAN U 19 F (B S), Russia Rel: Daur Mary Agnes SWAN U 17 F (B S), Russia Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Annie SWAN U 13 F (B S), Russia Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Charles S. SWAN U 10 M (B S), Russia Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Vera May SWAN U 8 F Wallsend, Northumberland, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mable Frances SWAN 6 F Long Benton, Northumberland, England Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar Mealla VARRICLA W 62 F (Russian Subject), Russia Rel: Servant Occ: Nurse Domestic Servant Elizabeth RODGERSON U 20 F Newcastle, Northumberland, England Rel: Servant Occ: Cook Domestic Servant Constance BARTLE U 18 F Lynn, Norfolk, England Rel: Servant Occ: Housemaid Domestic Servant Best wishes Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Fiske" <frankf@pchg.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: [MLN] Suik in England > Would some one give me a good web site for England in search for SUIK name > formerly of Russia going back to the area of Liveland, which is now named > [Estonia I think] Looking for a Charles Swan [Swan could be english for > SUIK] THANK YOU Frank > >

Would some one give me a good web site for England in search for SUIK name formerly of Russia going back to the area of Liveland, which is now named [Estonia I think] Looking for a Charles Swan [Swan could be english for SUIK] THANK YOU Frank

Would anyone have access to grave inscriptions for Bathgate cemeteries? I believe my JOHN MURRAY and his wife HELEN CRAWFORD who both died in Holytown, Lanarkshire in 1853, may have been buried back in Bathgate where they originated from. In John's will he had an entry saying "Funeral money from old mason lodge" I take it that would have been the local Masonic lodge. If anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much. TIA Elizabeth. researching: MURRAY.CRAWFORD.BINNIE/BENNIE. Bathgate. COOK.WRIGHT.MURRAY.McGUFFEN.McCAIG.KELLY. Lanarkshire & Ireland. KENNEDY.YOUNG.HENRY. Co.LONDONDERRY. McCAIG/McKAIG.TURNER.HALE.CLARK. Co.DOWN.

Hi Elizabeth I can't help with your request but was wondering if you have any Binny or various spellings that had gone to India as i have this name & been told that it possible that he came from Scotland no proof as yet Regards Janice Name: Charles Binny Marriage: 28 Jan 1835 Blacktown Chapel Madras India Spouse: Clousina Frederica Hoff Children: 1 M: Albert Binny Birth: 9 Apr 1846 Madras, India Baptism: 15 May 1846 Madras, India Spouse: Elizabeth Letitia Anderson Marriage: 29 Jul 1885 Cuddapah On NWL Of Madras Railway, India 2 F: Harriet Binny Birth: 24 Oct 1848 Blacktown, Madras, India Baptism: 13 Dec 1848 Blacktown, Madras, India 3 F: Ellen Binny Birth: 27 Mar 1850 India Baptism: 3 May 1850 India Notes for Ellen (Child 3) Ellen was baptisted by the Society Propagation for Gospel Missionary >From: "Elizabeth Reid" <bluebel2@tpg.com.au> >Reply-To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [MLN] MURRAY.CRAWFORD. >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:52:50 +1100 > >Would anyone have access to grave inscriptions for Bathgate cemeteries? > >I believe my JOHN MURRAY and his wife HELEN CRAWFORD who both died in >Holytown, Lanarkshire in 1853, may have been buried back in Bathgate where >they originated from. In John's will he had an entry saying "Funeral money >from old mason lodge" I take it that would have been the local Masonic >lodge. > >If anyone could help me I would appreciate it very much. > >TIA > >Elizabeth. > >researching: > >MURRAY.CRAWFORD.BINNIE/BENNIE. Bathgate. > >COOK.WRIGHT.MURRAY.McGUFFEN.McCAIG.KELLY. Lanarkshire & Ireland. > >KENNEDY.YOUNG.HENRY. Co.LONDONDERRY. > >McCAIG/McKAIG.TURNER.HALE.CLARK. Co.DOWN. > Researching in & Around Kettle Fife & West Calder Edingburgh Scotland: Aiken/Aitken Forrester Geddie Haxton Hugh

Hi Donald, I see you are researching both Combes and Goodalls. Do you have McIntyres there too? Regards, Jim --- "Donald L. Combe" <dcombe@niagara.com> wrote: > GOODALL > > John Goodall (1798-12 Jan 1860). On 25 Apr 1820 he > married Sarah > Anderson (1798-22 Jun 1860) at Cockburnspath, > Berwickshire. We believe > his parents to be John Goodall 1776 and Janet Bell. > In the 1840's they > came to Niagara in Canada. I would welcome any > information on this > family. > Donald L. Combe > 89 Johnson Street > Post Office Box 813 > Niagara on the Lake > Ontario, L0S 1J0 > Phone 905 468 4175 > Cell 905 932 4175 > Fax 905 468 4640 > >

Thanks, Merrylee. My gt-gt-grandfather was an Edinburgh surgeon and in his 'Reminiscences' mentions fellow students by name. I'll check if he ever met up with yours. Sara Mac wrote: > Hi Sara, > > No, I'm sorry I only have the names as they were mentioned in the will. It Just says "Alexander Wilson Surgeon there".....as in Whitburn.

Hi Sara, No, I'm sorry I only have the names as they were mentioned in the will. It Just says "Alexander Wilson Surgeon there".....as in Whitburn. He and the two other gentlemen were appointed as a sort of Guardian to any children should they be in their "minority" after the death of their father,( My Gr Gr Gr Grandfather.) But since the youngest child was b. 1832 and he died 1852 there would only have been one child for a year to be guardian to, given the year of majority being 21y. Kind regards Merrylee

Merrylee, Have you got an address for Alexander WILSON, Surgeon? Sara

Hi, The following names are in the Will of my Gr-Gr-Gr-Grandfather and I thought perhaps they might interest anyone who would recognise them as part of their family. 28-February 1838 Samuel Greenshields Schoolmaster of the Parish of Whitburn Thomas Gordon Late of Whitburn, Writer to the Signet The Following three men he appointed as "Tutors and Curators" for his children Alexander Waddell of Burnhead William Arthur, Sadler in Whitburn Alexander Wilson, Surgeon Walter Black Apprentice to John Smith Writer in Bathgate Croftmalloch bounded as follows on the East by the Lands of Whitburn belonging to Mr Gordon On the West by the Drove Loan On the South by the lands of Cairny(?)and Belstone And on the North by a burn which divides the same from the Profsefsion of the Reverend Mr. Rhind and Mr Bruce with the haill houses yards and pertinent thereof as sometime Possessed by Alexander Waddell afterwards by Thomas Russell and at present prossessed by myself all lying in the Parish of Whitburn Happy Hunting Merrylee

GOODALL John Goodall (1798-12 Jan 1860). On 25 Apr 1820 he married Sarah Anderson (1798-22 Jun 1860) at Cockburnspath, Berwickshire. We believe his parents to be John Goodall 1776 and Janet Bell. In the 1840's they came to Niagara in Canada. I would welcome any information on this family. Donald L. Combe 89 Johnson Street Post Office Box 813 Niagara on the Lake Ontario, L0S 1J0 Phone 905 468 4175 Cell 905 932 4175 Fax 905 468 4640

COMBE Robert Combe 27 Oct 1793-c1850 was born at Garvald in East Lothian. Abt.1817 he married Margaret Gray(abt 1797 in Moreham-21 Aug 1867).I would welcome any information on this family. Donald L. Combe 89 Johnson Street Post Office Box 813 Niagara on the Lake Ontario, L0S 1J0 Phone 905 468 4175 Cell 905 932 4175 Fax 905 468 4640

That would be Professor Norman Dott. I rather think he was still living 20-odd years later. He had a rather untidy-looking house at the foot of Chalmers Crescent. I suspect he was a "character"! Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- From: Archie Gilbert [mailto:agilbert@clara.co.uk] Sent: 15 February 2005 20:13 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] help if possible Paul, There was a famous consultant surgeon in Edinburgh Royal Infirmary called Professor Dott. I think that he was still practising during WW2 when I was a laddie.This info. is probably as interesting as though I had told you that I had an uncle in America !! :-)) Archie Gilbert, Kinross ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul power" <paulpower@hotmail.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: [MLN] help if possible > Greetings i am wondering if anyone has come across the surname Dot, perhaps > Dott. My ancestor was called Ellen Dot and was born in a place called > Linlithgow in about 1810 . Her father was a shoemaker . Any help regarding > this woudl be much appreciated . Many thanks , Paul Power > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't know what to wear tomorrow? Get an accurate weather forecast at MSN > Weather! http://www.msn.ie/weather > > >

Brian, does your database by any chance include the following: Robert CLARK married Catherine STARK, I don't know when or where. I would guess Catherine Stark was born ca. 1808 and married about 1826, as their son John Clark was born in 1828, at Tulliallan, Kincardine on Forth, Perth. John became a U.P. minister, and married Janet Graham, b. 1838 Dalmeny, Linlithgow, West Lothian. This couple were my G-grandparents. -----Original Message----- From: brian@spots.ca [mailto:brian@spots.ca] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:04 PM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] STARK Hi Merrylee: I have a lot of Starks in my data base from Whitburn, Bathgate and area starting back in the mid 1800's as one married a Martin. This line emigrated to New Zealand in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Although I could not connect to yours, there probably is a connection somewhere. I got all the information on this line from a distant relative living in New Zealand. Brian Martin Calgary, Canada

Thank you all for your info on 96 Pleasance. We got off the track a little but I did learn a lot about what a Victualler does. Did any one know where John Brown snr and Jnr would have been buried if they were living at 96/100 Pleasance before their death? Regards Sue Barker Gidgegannup Western Australia "Also this John Brown and his son John Brown > died in this area. John Brown snr died 27 Feb 1853 aged 72yrs and John > Brown jnr died Feb 1842 aged 24yrs. > Where would they have been buried and is there any MI's I could chase > up?"

Thanks Jim, I appreciate the help gretchen

>Hi list, > I have received a copy of a page from the OPR of Whitburn Parish on >which 5 children of one family are listed in consecutive order. The dates >range from August 1846 to December 1853. The birth ahead of that is dated >January 1854, and the one following is dated December 1846. They are not >alphabetical. > Question: Why would these five children all be listed consecutively, >and not chronologically with other births in the parish? Would someone in >the parish have copied these? When children were baptised the parents were then supposed to go the the parish clerk, pay a fee and have the baptisms entered in the register. By the 1840s this was being neglected especially in the cities. It has been calculated that only about one third of births are recorded in the parish registers in the large cities such as Edinburgh and Glasgow (from census records). This is one of the reasons civil registration was brought in. In 1854 with civil registration forthcoming the following year there was a big effort to get parish registers updated, so most will have long lists such as this at the end, either after or within the entries for 1854. You sometimes see this sort of thing earlier. Around 1820 when new registers were brought in in all the churches, or randomly at other times, parents would "catch up". I've also seen a parish where the new minister found that the clerk hadn't kept the register at all for the last twenty years, so he inserted a note to the effect that he had been to all the families in the parish and copied the details from the family bibles. Of course any who had left the parish would be missed. Incidentally the families were given a baptism certificate when the children were baptised. I have photocopies of one or two, around two hundred years old, that have been passed down in one of my family lines. So possibly the families produced these certificates at the time when they had the "catch up" entries made in the register. Catherine

Hi Merrylee: I have a lot of Starks in my data base from Whitburn, Bathgate and area starting back in the mid 1800's as one married a Martin. This line emigrated to New Zealand in the late 1800's and early 1900's. Although I could not connect to yours, there probably is a connection somewhere. I got all the information on this line from a distant relative living in New Zealand. Brian Martin Calgary, Canada

Hi Gretchen, Leith was once a separate town but is now a district of Edinburgh. It was divided into two Parishes - North Leith and South Leith. Hope this answers your question. Regards, Jim Mercer. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GBZMOM@aol.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:03 PM Subject: [MLN] Leith or South Leith > Hi listers, > > While looking for family in the IGI, I found what appears to be a family, > but the birth places are slightly different. One says South Leith, Midlothian, > Scotland and the other says Leith, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland. Are > these one and the same or are their two places with similar names??? All help > appreciated. > > Thanks, > gretchen > Michigan USA >