On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:47:18 -0500, "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: >I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in >Scotland. >Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District Cannongate, >Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. This is possibly Pirrie's Close, located on the south side of the Canongate. It is about the third close east of the junction with St Mary's Street, and located between Chessels Close and Gibb's Close. Have a look at the index map at http://www.nls.uk/digitallibrary/map/townplans/edinburgh1056_2_se.html Click on the left-hand large rectangle in the second row (if you hover your mouse over the rectangle, it should say "Sheet 36") This will open the 1876-77 Ordnance Survey 1:1056 (60 inches to the mile) town plan of that part of Edinburgh. Zoom in on the top left quarter of the map, find the crossroads at the High Street/Canongate junction with St Mary's Street/Jeffrey Street, and then work eastwards along the south side of the Canongate. Don't have a copy of the 1871 census hand though! Forrest -- Forrest Anderson - British Military Genealogical Researcher. E-mail: forrest@military-researcher.com Website: www.military-researcher.com

Friends: Seeking descendants of John Wilson and Margaret Sym of Paisley, including but not limited to their eldest son John Wilson, aka Christopher North, 1785-1854, Prof. of Moral Philosophy at Edinburgh Univ. from 1820 to 1854. Any information which can be provided will be much appreciated. M L DePoy II

Just trying my request again. :)) Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul can track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in Scotland. Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District Cannongate, Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire Wife Emma b1842 Salford Son Thomas b1862 England Dau Matilda B1867 Salford Son William b1869 Salford Dau Sarah Ann born 21 March 1871 at above listed address in Scotland. Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? Kind regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05

Yes sorry. On the 1841 Inveresk census he is 55 Elizabeth his wife also 55. On the 1851 census he is 68 she is 66 I know they were birth born in Inveresk and he was a Coal Miner. I think they are the parents of my GtGtGt Grandmother Margaret who was born about 1808 and married William McKinlay in 1830. Hope this helps. Regards Eleanor -----Original Message----- From: GBZMOM@aol.com [mailto:GBZMOM@aol.com] Sent: 18 March 2005 21:26 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MLN] Archibald/Russell Do you have any dates for your Alexander Archibald? gretchen

Hell List, Can anyone tell me what area/streets were covered by Enumeration District. 9. St. Cuthberts Parish Edinburgh in the 1841 Census. I am looking for the Asylum For The Blind ( Male). I know where the Royal Blind School is in Edinburgh today - Are they one and the same place ? My ancestor HENRY AIKENHEAD was there in 1841 Kind Regards Margaret Thankyou FREECEN - http://freecen.rootsweb.com/

Do you have any dates for your Alexander Archibald? gretchen

Hello Eleanor Marriage Inveresk p. Alexander Archibald, coallier and Elizabeth Russell 21 July 1806. No other information. Known children (most weren't in the OPR). Margaret bc1807 (from death 1854) married William McKinlay John bc1809 (from death cert.1864) David bc1811 (from death cert.) married Marion McKinlay Isabel b 13 May 1815 (From OPR) Alexander b 1 Apr 1823 (From OPR) George bc 1824 (From 1841c) There may be other children not yet found. Regards Jean > Has anybody anything for an Alexander Archibald Coal Miner married to Elizabeth Russell. > They are both from Inveresk or Newcraighall. > Have you found all there children etc? > Regards > Eleanor

I picked this up off the Yorksgen Digests and felt that everyone should be aware of this. Apologies for any repeats. KYoung Scotland First what needs to be pointed out to those concerned in the MoD (a) They do not own anything , the MoD, like every other government department is owned and paid for by the British public. It is the British public that own the records, buildings, tanks, guns, uniforms, computers and everything else used by the MoD. They simply use our facilities. (b) Copyright has nothing to do with ownership of an item and in any case the copyright of such cards is not vested in the MoD but in the Crown. Cheers Guy rob wrote: > snip > >> Start of quote: >> As we go to press, it has come to my attention that in April the MOD >> intends to destroy some 6 million records of medals issued to WW1 >> personnel. I think you will agree that we cannot let them do so. >> >> Our military expert Paul Reed has been looking into the matter and it >> appears that the private facility used by the MOD to hold the records at >> Hayes wants to relocate and charge the MOD for moving the cards. The >> MOD's response is to get rid of the 140 filing cabinets that contain the >> 4-6 cards. The National Archives doesn't want to take on the cards >> because it has already microfiched them and the microfiche has been >> digitally scanned (see www.documentsonline.nationalarchives.gov.uk). >> >> This isn't good enough. This is the only complete and untouched record >> of First World War soldiers left. Other service records were burned >> during WW2. Only the fronts of the cards have been scanned and we >> believe that written on the back of many of these cards is the address >> that the medals were sent to. Often, it isn't possible to determine >> whether the record of the medals issued relates to your ancestor or >> another person without checking this address. >> >> First, the cards need to be preserved. They then need to be scanned >> properly, front and back, and re-indexed. If the National Archives >> won't step in, perhaps someone else will. The Imperial War Museum? The >> Veteran's Association? >> >> The MOD claims its holds copyright on the cards and that it can do what >> it wishes with them. I'd argue that these cards are part of the >> nation's heritage. They are public records, and I'd remind the MOD that >> the descendants of WW1 soldiers pay their taxes. The cards remind us of >> the enormous sacrifice and loss incurred by men and women in this >> country during WW1, and of their bravery in adversity. They enable the >> children and grandchildren of those who died, and those who survived, to >> find out some of >> the lost details of their forebears. >> >> To save the cards we must take action. We're instituting a campaign to >> urge the Minister of Defence, Geoff Hoon, and the Director of the >> National Archives, Sarah Tyacke, to prevent the destruction of these >> records straight away. Address your letter to us and we'll pass it on >> to these authorities: >> Rt Hon Geoff Hoon & Sarah Tyacke >> Save the Medal Index Cards >> c/o Your Family Tree >> 30 Monmouth Street >> Bath BA1 2BW >> Alternatively, send an email headed 'Save the Medal Index Cards' to us >> at <yfted@futurenet.co.uk>. Do it now - the records are due to be >> destroyed in April. >> >> Garrick Webster, >> Editor, Your Family Tree" >> >> >> > > > snip > > -- Wakefield, West Yorkshire, England. http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells The site that gives you facts not promises! http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/index.php?referrerid=7 ______________________________ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.1 - Release Date: 09/03/05

Has anybody anything for an Alexander Archibald Coal Miner married to Elizabeth Russell. They are both from Inveresk or Newcraighall. Have you found all there children etc? Regards Eleanor

Could some kind soul please look up the 1871 Census in St, Cuthberts, Edinburgh for James Downie and his wife Lillias they should have a daughter named Jessie James Downie aged about 32 was a Baker Journeyman in 1869 when he married Lillias Dick. Lillias Downie nee Dick would be aged about 30/31 and daughter aged about 2 I would like to see if James and Lillias Downie had anymore children please? Also the 1881 Census please as I thought I had them but I do not think I did, As the James Downie I had for 1881 was a Butcher not Baker? So I am unsure that this was my 2x Great Grandparents? James Downie Died on December 11, 1886 Lillias Downie was still alive in March 1887. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves

Hi Margaret: No obvious connection. I do have a William Stark who married Mary Wilson Martin who was born 1870. I do not have any information on his family. Interesting to note that the Stark line came to me from a relation on my Martin side on the south island of NZ. This family emigrated from Scotland in the late 1800's. No luck either on the Bryce line. Brian Calgary On 9 Mar 2005 at 11:20, J & M Edler wrote: Hi Brian I wonder if you have any information on a Mary STARK (b. 12 Mar 1822 Calder near Whitburn; d. 30 May 1911 Nowra, NSW AUS), daughter of William & Catherine (nee GRAY) STARK. She married William BRYCE on 6 Jun 1852 at 'Moss Hall' Whitburn East. They migrated to Australia immediately after their wedding, arriving in Sydney 19 Dec 1852. Also interested in the BRYCE family of Whitburn: Alexander BRYCE (parents unknown) married 1803 Whitburn Marion RUSSELL (1779 - 1852), daughter of John & Janet (nee INGLES) RUSSELL Alexander & Marion had 6 known children: Ann (1810-1866) m. Malcolm MATHIE (migrated to AUS 1856) James Marion m. 1838 West Calder John INGLIS Helen William (1820-1892) m. Mary STARK Alexander (1822-1898) m. 1851 Isabella WATT (migrated to AUS <1852). Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <brian@spots.ca> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:04 Subject: Re: [MLN] STARK > Hi Merrylee: > > I have a lot of Starks in my data base from Whitburn, Bathgate and area starting back > in the mid 1800's as one married a Martin. This line emigrated to New Zealand in the > late 1800's and early 1900's. Although I could not connect to yours, there probably is a > connection somewhere. I got all the information on this line from a distant relative living > in New Zealand. > > Brian Martin > Calgary, Canada > >

I clicked the 'Spam' link instead of delete after I read this. Don't remeove me from the list, please. Paula > Content-Type: text/plain > > MIDLOTHIAN-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 89 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: [MLN] STARK, BRYCE, RUSSELL, M ["J & M Edler" <john_eee@ieee.org>] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from MIDLOTHIAN-D, send a message to > > MIDLOTHIAN-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, > but if your software requires one, just use > unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > > ______________________________> X-Message: #1 > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:51:21 +1100 > From: "J & M Edler" <john_eee@ieee.org> > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <0a0b01c52610$450c1880$b6412dcb@Elle> > Subject: Re: [MLN] STARK, BRYCE, RUSSELL, MATHIE, INGLES > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Thanks > > Margaret > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Bob > > > > BRYCE, William Christening > > Gender: Male > > Birth Date: 28 Feb 1820 Birthplace: , Whitburn, West > > Lothian, Scotland > > Recorded in: Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland > > Father: Alexander BRYCE > > Mother: Marion RUSSELL > > Source: FHL Film 102998 + Dates: 1820 - 1855 > > ========================

Hi everyone, Looking (by now desperately!) for the birth and parents of James Connell who said at his second marriage in Melbourne in 1854 that he was born about 1796 in Newtown, Scotland, to parents James Connell (labourer) and Margaret Dalziell. He enlisted in the 42nd Regiment in 1816, at which time his birthplace is given as Newton. He married Mary Shine in Adare, Co. Limerick, in 1822, and after being invalided out from the regiment in Gibraltar in 1830, left Leith for Hobart with wife and daughter Mary Ann in 1833. He next turns up as one of the first publicans in Melbourne in early 1837. He had only the one surviving child but may have had a brother John, also a Melbourne publican. James went to a reunion of 5 Waterloo veterans in Melbourne, and there are a James and John Connell who served in the 92nd Regiment at Waterloo, but the Chelsea Pensioner records show only that James was in the 42nd. Can anyone help please? Helen Australia

Dear Listers, I am interested in the following names, all of which have their origins in Athelstaneford for the period 1660-1764. DODS/DODDS HUNTER CUNNINGHAM/CUNINGHAME CRAWFOORD/CRAWFORD WALKER SYMPSON/SIMPSON ANDERSON Best Wishes, From, Michael in Norway. http://home.c2i.net/stenhouse/stenhouse/MICHAELSPAGES/INDEX. HTM Proud to be part of the FreeCen Project http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ All my outgoing mails are checked by Norton Antivirus 2004

Hi to all Joined the list in the hopes some person may know something of a family PEAT JAMES TULLIS PEAT born 1825 or baptised 1825 Markinch, Fife, Midlothian parents James PEAT and Catherine / Cathrin CONSTABLE This guy became a ships Captain and was in charge of the PERSIAN which eventually arrived Melbourne Australia I have found a marriage for him to Margaret Jane RUSSELL 1851 Edinburgh but cannot locate family If these names mean anyting iwould be most please to learn more on James and his life Many thanks elaine jeffersoneb@patash.com.au

I have not tried MIs in Newcastle, Sheena, so will have a look next time I am across that way. I am beginning to wonder if everything happened at sea, including his death. He has certainly left me there! Margaret.

Thanks Margaret ----- Original Message ----- > Bob > > BRYCE, William Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 28 Feb 1820 Birthplace: , Whitburn, West > Lothian, Scotland > Recorded in: Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland > Father: Alexander BRYCE > Mother: Marion RUSSELL > Source: FHL Film 102998 + Dates: 1820 - 1855 > ========================

Looking for Joseph Scott, maybe in Bannockburn, Stirling . 1841 and 1851 census. Joseph not common name then so will take any Joseph Scott anyone can find anywhere for those two dates. He died 1853, fell from a horse, still a young man, probably around 30 yrs. By naming pattern of chn, his father was probably Mungo. Can anyone help please? Margaret

Hi Sheena, Thanks for your interest. Not only have I looked at FreeBMD, but have also searched and re-searched the civil registration fiches for marriages in England. I sometimes wonder if Alexander really did exist, though he WAS the informant on his first child's birth certificate! Margaret.

Hi Brian I wonder if you have any information on a Mary STARK (b. 12 Mar 1822 Calder near Whitburn; d. 30 May 1911 Nowra, NSW AUS), daughter of William & Catherine (nee GRAY) STARK. She married William BRYCE on 6 Jun 1852 at 'Moss Hall' Whitburn East. They migrated to Australia immediately after their wedding, arriving in Sydney 19 Dec 1852. Also interested in the BRYCE family of Whitburn: Alexander BRYCE (parents unknown) married 1803 Whitburn Marion RUSSELL (1779 - 1852), daughter of John & Janet (nee INGLES) RUSSELL Alexander & Marion had 6 known children: Ann (1810-1866) m. Malcolm MATHIE (migrated to AUS 1856) James Marion m. 1838 West Calder John INGLIS Helen William (1820-1892) m. Mary STARK Alexander (1822-1898) m. 1851 Isabella WATT (migrated to AUS <1852). Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: <brian@spots.ca> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 10:04 Subject: Re: [MLN] STARK > Hi Merrylee: > > I have a lot of Starks in my data base from Whitburn, Bathgate and area starting back > in the mid 1800's as one married a Martin. This line emigrated to New Zealand in the > late 1800's and early 1900's. Although I could not connect to yours, there probably is a > connection somewhere. I got all the information on this line from a distant relative living > in New Zealand. > > Brian Martin > Calgary, Canada > >