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    1. The Close's of Edinburgh
    2. gordon crooks
    3. Can anyone explain the reason for building "Close's" in the first place, shortage of flat land or what? Gordon

    03/21/2005 01:21:24
    1. Extra Certs, Cockpen Births, Civil
    2. Cockpen Parish Births 1870 10 Feb - Georgina SOMERVILLE, Father William SOMERVILLE, glue manufacturer Mother Christina BAILLIE 26 Feb - Mary Elizabeth SMART, Father Alexander SMART, gamekeeper Mother Elizabeth WALLACE (?) 4 Mar - Hannah BOWMAN, Father Thomas BOWMAN, fireman at paper mill Mother Hannah BURNETT 1873 6 Jan - Elizabeth Reid JOYCE, Father John JOYCE, miner Mother Mary WATSON 7 Jan - Georgina McDONALD, Father Archibald McDONALD, labourer Mother Ann DEMPSTER 10 Jan - Thomas BOWMAN, Father Thomas BOWMAN, mill labourer Mother Hannah BURNET 1879 19 Feb - George IRVINE, Father James IRVINE, sewage pipe maker Mother Agnes GILLESPIE 4 Mar - Robina BOWMAN, Father Thomas BOWMAN, fireman at paper mill Mother Hannah BURNETT 1 Mar - Mary FLOCKHART, Father David FLOCKHART, coal miner Mother Marion BLACK Details available either as a transcription or a copy of the page. -- Alice in Rockville, Maryland, USA

    03/21/2005 01:19:58
    1. Occupier - need definition
    2. Mary Jane Bowman, 4 year old illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Bowman, died at Cockpen in May of 1868. The informant signed himself as James Halliday, "Occupier." Can someone please tell me what that means? What is an "occupier" and might it signify a relationship with the mother, Elizabeth Bowman? Thanks -- Alice

    03/21/2005 12:51:03
    1. Re: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family
    2. roger kelly
    3. Hi Mike, If no previous offers, I will happily look up the 1871 Pirrie's Close, in my lunch hour. Best Wishes, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: [MLN] 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > Hello Jane, > that was a wonderful response, the picture was a bonus, the map was like > adding icing to the cake. Many many thanks, I really do appreciate this. > > Now I see this and compare it to that which is written on the birth record > it is the correct street name. > > I wonder if its possible that someone might locate them at this address in > the 1871 census? > > Kind regards and all my best in your own search. > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:34 AM > Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > >> Hi Mike, >> >> Here's a photo of Pirrie's Close: >> http://www.chameleon-arts.com/royalmile/closes/close-pirries.html >> >> Jane >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> >> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:47 PM >> Subject: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family >> >> >> > Just trying my request again. :)) >> > >> > Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul > can >> > track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? >> > >> > I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in >> > Scotland. >> > Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District >> > Cannongate, >> > Burgh of >> > Edinburgh, Scotland. >> > >> > John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire >> > Wife Emma b1842 Salford >> > Son Thomas b1862 England >> > Dau Matilda B1867 Salford >> > Son William b1869 Salford >> > Dau Sarah Ann born 21 March 1871 at above listed address in Scotland. >> > >> > Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? >> > >> > Kind regards >> > >> > Mike Morris >> > Toronto Canada >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05 > >

    03/21/2005 12:41:48
    1. RE: [MLN] Occupier - need definition
    2. Gil & Sonia Murray
    3. I think an "occupier" was a tenant. Maybe he was her father - or it could be, his wife was paid to board the child? Happy hunting, Sonia -----Original Message----- From: Alcnwondr@aol.com [mailto:Alcnwondr@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:51 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] Occupier - need definition Mary Jane Bowman, 4 year old illegitimate daughter of Elizabeth Bowman, died at Cockpen in May of 1868. The informant signed himself as James Halliday, "Occupier." Can someone please tell me what that means? What is an "occupier" and might it signify a relationship with the mother, Elizabeth Bowman? Thanks -- Alice

    03/21/2005 12:36:53
    1. Re: [MLN] A few Taylors
    2. taylor clan
    3. Thanks Bob, You got the right Mary Ann ,This may really help to find the ship and maybe a passenger list . It give me a starting point or departure. The hand-me-down family tree said Mary Ann's birthdate was 17 Sept , 1830. A wrong year has kept me from finding this. I'll double check the other family members that I have not found. Is it possible that George may have not know his own birthdate and has taken the age of his wife? I hope not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <hiflyte@telus.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [MLN] A few Taylors > Here are a few entries from the BIVRI2 FHC disks > Looks like he was living in Glasgow before going to CDN if the correct > person > I have NO additional data on the surnames only posting the info. > > Visit the FHC for additional data. > > Bob > Cdn. > > ======================= > TAYLOR, Mary Ann Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 17 Sep 1829 > Christening Date: 27 Sep 1829 Recorded in: Glasgow, > Lanarkshire, Scotland > Collection: Hutchesontown, Relief Church > Father: George TAYLOR > Mother: Ann MCARTHUR > Source: FHL Film 889479 Dates: 1818 - 1871 > ---------------------------------------------- > TAYLOR, Mary Ann Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 17 Sep 1829 > Christening Date: 27 Sep 1829 Recorded in: Glasgow, > Lanarkshire, Scotland > Collection: Hutchesontown, Relief > Father: George TAYLOR > Mother: Ann MCARTHUR > Source: FHL Film 1485046 Dates: 1819 - 1854 Note: > FRCH3V398NO1P87 > ==============================================

    03/20/2005 05:33:29
    1. Seeking Cockburns in Canada/South Africa, originally from Haddington/Dirleton/Humbie
    2. Craig Cockburn
    3. Hi Following a recent breakthrough I received a copy of a lengthy and very interesting obituary notice of my great grandfather from 1921 (born 1843 in Humbie, East Lothian, died in Haddington) http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/DCObit1921.gif (quite a read, even if you aren't related!) And a corresponding "going away" party which was documented in the local paper in 1909, I now know that my great Uncle Andrew Cockburn went into business with his brother John Edington Cockburn in Canada. John E was in Vancouver in the 1940s and subsequently died there, but I can find no trace of the death records of Andrew Cockburn, he was born in Haddington about 1873. Married Agnes Walker Robertson on 21st June 1901 in Dirleton, East Lothian. Had a son David Cockburn 28th April 1902 born in Scotland. Agnes Walker Robertson had at least 2 brothers James R. Robertson, Married in 1904 Age 22 at Dunbar. Occupation Blacksmith (journeyman),. Usual Res: Dirleton. Spouse ROBINA M. MACKIE, Age 22. and John Roberston ref: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SCT-EAST-LOTHIAN/2003-05/1053366004 Having so far drawn a blank for Vancouver, does anyone know of any searchable death indexes for the whole of Canada that would be worth trying or have access to the full ancestry.com database? Also a marriage record for David Cockburn and an index to businesses (a joiners) established in the 1910-1920 timeframe would be worth looking for. The business could have been anywhere in Canada, I only know that John E ended up in Vancouver later on. I also know that Andrew Cockburn was in East London, South Africa at one point and made enough money to sent commemorative trays out to various family members of which someone in my family has one. This was allegedly selling soft drinks! However, he was a master joiner originally and I assume when he was in business with his brother in Canada in 1921 that it was joinery he was doing (unless anyone has any other info!). Current line of enquiry is that he might have gone to Ontario but this is only at the early investigation stage. Andrew was born in Haddington and trained there. He moved to Dirleton and subsequently married there in 1901. He was 28, his spouse Agnes Walker Robertson 26. They had a son David in 1902, born West Fenton, Dirleton. Agnes was the daughter of John Robertson, master blacksmith (presumably in Dirleton) and Mary Robertson MS Rodgers. I have so far found one branch of the family in Vancouver who were delighted to hear from me and it would be great to put them in touch with their relatives. More info on the Cockburn family I have found is here: http://www.siliconglen.com/genealogy/family-history.html many thanks -- Craig Cockburn ("coburn"). SiliconGlen.com Ltd. http://SiliconGlen.com Home to the first online guide to Scotland, founded 1994. Scottish FAQ, wedding info, website design, stop spam and more!

    03/20/2005 04:33:34
    1. RESEARCHING TAYLOR
    2. taylor clan
    3. Hi Folks, I,m hoping someone has information they would like to share on a George Taylor, Born sometime between April 1794 to July 1795. International Genealogical Index Lists 7 Georges with these dates. I think one of these could be him. George Taylor - Birth : 18 APR 1794 Edinburgh Midlothian , Scotland Parents : Henry Taylor , Helen Wilson George Taylor - Christened : 22 June 1794 Kemnay Aberdeenshire,Scotland Parents : James Taylor , Jean Piper George Taylor - Christened : 04 July 1794 Kemnay Aberdeenshire ,Scotland Parents : John Taylor , Anne Adam George Taylor - Birth : 23 Jan 1795 Rathven Banffshire , Scotland Parents : William Taylor , Jean Morison George Taylor - Christened : 25 Jan 1795 Drumoak Aberdeenshire, Scotland Parents : Peter Taylor , Jannet Pirie George Taylor - Christened : 25 Jan 1795 Birsay Orkneyshire , Scotland Parents : William Taylor , Mary Folster George Taylor - Birth : 12 June 1795 Perth Perthshire , Scotland Parent : Laurence Taylor , Elizabeth Watson If you have information on any one of these georges it would help me eliminate some off my list. There may be some that is not listed on IGI , I would love to hear about them. The problem I'm having is, I have no way of finding his birth date. His grave marker said, Died 10th June 1862, at the age of 67. What we do know is George Taylor of Airth Parish married Ann McArthur , Daughter of Duncan and Margt. ( Sawn) McArthur in the Parish of Kincardine by Doune , Perthshire on 12 May, 1816. They raised 6 children in the same parish until they left for Puslinch twp. Ontario , Canada in 1832. Hoping to Deep'in my roots in Scotland. THANK YOU for your time and knowledge. Many thanks from George's GGGGrandson Dave Taylor

    03/20/2005 03:49:54
    1. Extra Certs, Lasswade Births, Civil
    2. Lasswade Parish Births 1867 3 Feb - Caroline Ann CANNON, Father William CANNON, miner Mother Elizabeth Jane LAMPSHER 5 Feb - Robert BOWMAN, Father Thomas BOWMAN, labourer Mother Hannah BURNET 12 Feb - James MARK, Father Adam MARK, farm tenant Mother Jemina WALKINGSHAW (?) 1868 24 Sep - Mary HUGHES, Father Edward HUGHES, labourer Mother Mary WILLIAMSON 1 Oct - Elizabeth BROWN, Father David BROWN, carter Mother Margaret COWAN 11 Oct - John BOWMAN, Father Thomas BOWMAN, labourer Mother Hannah BURNET 1869 24 Nov - Ann LENNAN, Father Patrick LENNAN, labourer Mother Mary SCOT 25 Nov - Agnes PORTEOUS, Father John PORTEOUS, miner Mother Mary HORSEBURGH 27 Nov - Elizabeth BOWMAN, Father Thomas Bowman, carter Mother Hannah BURNETT Details available either as a transcription or a copy of the page. -- Alice in Rockville, Maryland, USA

    03/20/2005 03:02:56
    1. Re: [MLN] Grant /Forsyth
    2. Alistair Cameron
    3. Helen Hall wrote: > > I am having trouble trying to find the family of Thomas Grant and Jane or > Jean Forsyth in Edinburgh. > They were married at South Leith 20th Nov 1832. > My gt grandfather John Grant was a son born in Edinburgh 1840. In case it helps, note that a Purewa tombstone names two Johns Grant, died 1921 and 1973. IF Thomas/Jane did not emigrate then look for Jane's death entry and then for Thomas' death. You'll thus probably win the names of John's 45 grandparents incl grannies' maiden surnames. > I would appreciate if there is someone who is tracing the family or prepared > to look up a 1841 or 1851 census with this family mentioned . The surname being common it could be a tedious search unless you know which of the Edinburgh parishes to look in. For 1851 most of Edinburgh has been name indexed, there is a fee for lookup unless you find a library with the Index. State Library NSW has it but that is a very long swim from where you are!! Cheers, ALISTAIR M. CAMERON http://quozl.netrek.org/cameron-research/ PO Box 215 BUNDANOON NSW 2578 AUSTRALIA

    03/20/2005 02:27:52
    1. Re: [MLN] A few Taylors
    2. hiflyte
    3. Here are a few entries from the BIVRI2 FHC disks Looks like he was living in Glasgow before going to CDN if the correct person I have NO additional data on the surnames only posting the info. Visit the FHC for additional data. Bob Cdn. ======================= TAYLOR, Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 17 Sep 1829 Christening Date: 27 Sep 1829 Recorded in: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Collection: Hutchesontown, Relief Church Father: George TAYLOR Mother: Ann MCARTHUR Source: FHL Film 889479 Dates: 1818 - 1871 ---------------------------------------------- TAYLOR, Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 17 Sep 1829 Christening Date: 27 Sep 1829 Recorded in: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Collection: Hutchesontown, Relief Father: George TAYLOR Mother: Ann MCARTHUR Source: FHL Film 1485046 Dates: 1819 - 1854 Note: FRCH3V398NO1P87 ============================================== George Taylor births in Perthshire about 1800 TAYLOR, Gorg Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 21 May 1769 Recorded in: Methven, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Associate Session Congregation Father: Walter TAYLOR Source: FHL Film 889483 Dates: 1751 - 1851 TAYLOR, George Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 5 Mar 1772 Christening Date: 8 Mar 1772 Recorded in: Perth, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Associate Session Congregation Father: Robert TAYLOR Source: FHL Film 889486 Dates: 1743 - 1854 TAYLOR, George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 29 Aug 1792 Recorded in: Methven, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Associate Session Congregation Father: John TAYLOR Source: FHL Film 889483 Dates: 1751 - 1851 TAYLOR, George Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 May 1792 Christening Date: 30 May 1792 Recorded in: Perth, Perthshire, Scotland Father: David TAYLOR Mother: Elizabeth NIVEN Source: FHL Film 1068244 Dates: 1785 - 1795 TAYLOR, George Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 20 May 1827 Recorded in: Methven, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Associate Session Congregation Father: George TAYLOR Source: FHL Film 889483 Dates: 1751 - 1851 TAYLOR, George Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 21 Jul 1859 Christening Date: 31 Jul 1859 Recorded in: Dunblane, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: United Presbyterian Father: Peter TAYLOR Mother: Euphemia CRAMB Source: FHL Film 1482988 Dates: 1857 - 1900 Note: FRCH3V90NO10 ======================================================= McArthur Marriages in Perthshirer Doune MCARTHUR, John Marriage Wife: Siblah MCKEOUN Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1762 Recorded in: Doune, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Bridge of Teith; Associate Session Congregation Source: FHL Film 1482987 Dates: 1759 - 1766 Note: FRCH3V48NO21 ------------------------------------------------------ MCARTHUR, John Marriage Wife: Siblah MCKEOUN Marriage Date: 23 Oct 1762 Recorded in: Doune, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Associate Session Congregation Source: FHL Film 889474 Dates: 1759 - 1766 ---------------------------------- MCARTHUR, Walter Marriage Wife: Jean BELL Marriage Date: 9 Jan 1859 Recorded in: Doune, Perthshire, Scotland Collection: Burgher and Free Source: FHL Film 1484191 Dates: 1859 - 1859 Note: FRCH3V78NO1 =============================================== <SNIP> taylor clan wrote:Hi Folks,

    03/20/2005 02:11:54
    1. Surnames BOWMAN, BURNETT, TODD, NOBLE, FAUGHNAN
    2. Hello list members, I'm new to the list, having just recently found my great granduncle, Thomas BOWMAN of Dysart, Fife, residing over time in Cockpen, Lasswade, and Dalkeith, where he died in 1923 at an advanced age. In 1866 Thomas BOWMAN first married Hannah Graham BURNETT, daughter of Robert BURNETT and Elisabeth TODD. Thomas and Hannah had 6 children; Robert, John, Elizabeth, Hannah, Thomas, and later Robina. Hannah died in 1879 with the birth of Robina. About a year after Hannah's death, Thomas apparently had an illegitimate female child by Mary NOBLE. It was the custom to name an illegitimate female child after the mother, so her child's name would most likely also have been Mary NOBLE. I will call her Mary NOBLE 1880. I need help with both these Mary NOBLE's. More to follow. Thomas BOWMAN and Mary NOBLE had 4 more illegitimate children before he finally married her in 1896. The children of this union are; Helen, Andrew, Archibald, and Ann. Thomas gave his surname to these 4 children, and was present at their births. I suspect he also did so for Mary NOBLE 1880, but I cannot prove it. Now, to the Mary NOBLE dilemma. First, the death record for Mary NOBLE who married Thomas BOWMAN says her parents are James NOBLE and Janet NOBLE, but I cannot find either a birth record for a Mary NOBLE child of James and Janet NOBLE, nor a marriage record for James NOBLE and Janet NOBLE or James NOBLE and any other Janet at ScotlandsPeople or in the IGI. Can anyone tell me more about this Mary NOBLE--her parents, her birth date and place? Second, her illegitimate daughter, Mary NOBLE 1880, went on to have an illegitimate female child of her own in 1900, and on the birth record she, the mother, is Mary Noble BOWMAN, and therefore named her illegitimate daughter Mary Noble BOWMAN. Mary Noble BOWMAN 1880, who had the illegitimate daughter in 1900, married Patrick FAUGHNAN the following year, 1901. On the marriage cert she is listed as Mary BOWMAN, daughter of Thomas BOWMAN and Mary BOWMAN, maiden surname NOBLE. I am quite convinced Mary NOBLE 1880 is the daughter of Thomas BOWMAN and Mary NOBLE. Can anyone confirm and prove this? Thanks for your patience. Lots of extra certs coming as soon as I get them organized. -- Alice, in Rockville, Maryland, USA

    03/20/2005 01:37:31
    1. Re: [MLN] Grant /Forsyth
    2. Helen Hall
    3. I am having trouble trying to find the family of Thomas Grant and Jane or Jean Forsyth in Edinburgh. They were married at South Leith 20th Nov 1832. My gt grandfather John Grant was a son born in Edinburgh 1840. The only other family member I know of is an Elizabeth Grant who married George Brunton 1st July 1853 at St Cuthberts. She was obviously born before John . I would appreciate if there is someone who is tracing the family or prepared to look up a 1841 or 1851 census with this family mentioned . John Grant came out to New Zealand in 1860 on the ship "Pladda". Thank you Helen

    03/20/2005 11:54:41
    1. Re: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family
    2. Alistair Cameron
    3. Mike Morris wrote: > > Just trying my request again. :)) > > Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul can > track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? > I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in > Scotland. > Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District Cannongate, > Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. > Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? Maybe it is extinct now. The current map shows poor matching of these which all connect at Canongate- Paisley Close Byers " Lyons " Fife's " Bishop's " etc etc I chose those with a sibilant sound. Cheers, ALISTAIR M. CAMERON A.A.G.R.A. Professional Genealogist http://quozl.netrek.org/cameron-research/ PO Box 215 BUNDANOON NSW 2578 AUSTRALIA

    03/20/2005 09:22:12
    1. 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family
    2. Mike Morris
    3. Hello Jane, that was a wonderful response, the picture was a bonus, the map was like adding icing to the cake. Many many thanks, I really do appreciate this. Now I see this and compare it to that which is written on the birth record it is the correct street name. I wonder if its possible that someone might locate them at this address in the 1871 census? Kind regards and all my best in your own search. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger kelly" <roger.kelly1@virgin.net> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:34 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > Hi Mike, > > Here's a photo of Pirrie's Close: > http://www.chameleon-arts.com/royalmile/closes/close-pirries.html > > Jane > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:47 PM > Subject: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > > Just trying my request again. :)) > > > > Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul can > > track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? > > > > I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in > > Scotland. > > Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District > > Cannongate, > > Burgh of > > Edinburgh, Scotland. > > > > John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire > > Wife Emma b1842 Salford > > Son Thomas b1862 England > > Dau Matilda B1867 Salford > > Son William b1869 Salford > > Dau Sarah Ann born 21 March 1871 at above listed address in Scotland. > > > > Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? > > > > Kind regards > > > > Mike Morris > > Toronto Canada > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05 > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 3/18/05

    03/20/2005 07:18:48
    1. Re: ARCHIBALD / RUSSELL
    2. Jean Campbell
    3. Hello Gretchen Alexander Archibald, who married Elizabeth Russell, was born 6 November 1783 in Inveresk parish, with witnesses Thomas and John Archibald. He was the sixth child of John Archibald (coalminer) and Isabel Archibald (her maiden surname). He married 1806, Inveresk. He died between 1851 and 1855. Jean > Do you have any dates for your Alexander Archibald? > > gretchen

    03/20/2005 06:23:26
    1. GIBSON - CARRUTHERS
    2. Pat Wade
    3. Hello all, I need help and would love to find someone who is also tracing the family of Thomas GIBSON and Isabella CARRUTHERS. Thomas & Isabella married on the 10th March 1826 in Edinburgh. Isabella was the daughter of Francis CARRUTHERS of dumfries and the only one I could come up with was Francis CARRUTHERS Jean RICHARDSON born 6 march 1797. Thomas GIBSON was born in Scotland according to the census that I have on him. He was a soldier with the Royal Artillery. They spent a fair about of their time in Woolwich, and were there for the 1841 census. A number of their children were born in KENT and overseas. I believe that Thomas remarried about 1857 (yet to confirm the death of Isabella) to an Ann ?born in Brighton, Sussex. They had a daughter Elizabeth Gibson born in Woolwich. I have this couple with Daughter Elizabeth and a granddaughter Clara Elliott (born about 1867 either in USA or Cape Coast Castle) in the 1871 and 1881 census in the Plumstead, Kent area. Yet to establish which of their children married an ELLIOTT and where. A possible death for Thomas is Mar Qrt 1882 aged 77 yrs. Any suggestions of where to look greatly received as I am at a dead loss and confused at present. Thank you Pat

    03/20/2005 04:57:51
    1. Re: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family
    2. roger kelly
    3. Hi Mike, Here's a photo of Pirrie's Close: http://www.chameleon-arts.com/royalmile/closes/close-pirries.html Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:47 PM Subject: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > Just trying my request again. :)) > > Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul can > track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? > > I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in > Scotland. > Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District > Cannongate, > Burgh of > Edinburgh, Scotland. > > John Atkin Trade was a Goldbeater b1841 Salford Lancashire > Wife Emma b1842 Salford > Son Thomas b1862 England > Dau Matilda B1867 Salford > Son William b1869 Salford > Dau Sarah Ann born 21 March 1871 at above listed address in Scotland. > > Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? > > Kind regards > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05 > >

    03/20/2005 04:34:40
    1. 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family
    2. Mike Morris
    3. Hello Alistair, Many thanks for your response. It now looks like the correct spelling was Pirrie's Close. However, I just want to say how much I appreciated your taking the time to look this up for me. Kind regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Cameron" <acameron@hinet.net.au> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Fw: 1871 Edinburgh census ATKIN family > > > Mike Morris wrote: > > > > Just trying my request again. :)) > > > > Please can I ask the List members a favour? Is it possible a kind soul can > > track down a John ATKIN in Edinburgh, Scotland, during the 1871 census? > > > > I have the following address from a birth record dated 21 March 1871 in > > Scotland. > > Parents residing at (what looks like) 6 Prisies Close, District Cannongate, > > Burgh of Edinburgh, Scotland. > > > Is Prisies Close the correct name for this street? > > Maybe it is extinct now. The current map shows poor matching > of these which all connect at Canongate- > > Paisley Close > Byers " > Lyons " > Fife's " > Bishop's " > > etc etc I chose those with a sibilant sound. <snip> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/05

    03/20/2005 03:31:32
    1. Re: [MLN] Grant /Forsyth
    2. janette robertson
    3. Hi Helen , If you look on http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl 1841 census Midlothian you will find the family . Janette Piece: SCT1841/685/2 Place: Edinb.St Andrew-Midlothian Enumeration District: 85 Civil Parish: St Cuthberts Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Cuthberts Folio: 85 Page: 6 Address: 158 Fountainbridge GRANT Thomas M 25 Jrnymn Joiner Midlothian GRANT Jean F 25 Outside Census County (1841) GRANT Elizabeth F 8 Midlothian GRANT John M 17m Midlothian MARTIN Ellen F 15 Outside Census County (1841) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Hall" <helen.hall@xtra.co.nz> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [MLN] Grant /Forsyth >I am having trouble trying to find the family of Thomas Grant and Jane or >Jean Forsyth in Edinburgh. > They were married at South Leith 20th Nov 1832. > My gt grandfather John Grant was a son born in Edinburgh 1840. > The only other family member I know of is an Elizabeth Grant who married > George Brunton 1st July 1853 at St Cuthberts. She was obviously born > before John . > I would appreciate if there is someone who is tracing the family or > prepared to look up a 1841 or 1851 census with this family mentioned . > John Grant came out to New Zealand > in 1860 on the ship "Pladda". > Thank you > Helen > >

    03/20/2005 12:57:40