Thank you listers for your help. Before trying out the suggestions I went back into the site for another try. The previous night I had already logged off and on, off and on without success. This time, however, it worked! Thank you once again. Regards Jane McIntosh -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.5 - Release Date: 07/04/05

Doug, Don't know if you have completed your research on Elizabeth Sinclair. If you are still looking try the following URL http://www.bayanne.info/Shetland/getperson.php?personID=I31599&tree=bayanne_ 1 You should be able to hyperlink forward and backward using the bayanne site. Kind regards, John Robertson www.shetlandroots.org Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:14:36 -0500 From: Douglas Flummer <saxman@siu.edu> To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <3B5B09FC.4A3EAE87@siu.edu> Subject: [MLN] Lerwick Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all your help. As it turns out, after I wrote my note last night, I did some thinking, then I did some research on the Genuki site that revealed to me what you are telling me now, that there is a Lerwick in the Shetland Islands. Well, I did a check in the LDS database (just on a hunch), and lo and behold, there they were! At least three generations of Hendersons that I did not have, plus ancestry for Margaret Mail. In fact, I got so many people listed here who lived in the Shetland Islands, cousins, inlaws and all, that I had to quit for the night at one point and start up again today. However, given all that, I still have work to do on links in Midlothian. I still have information on Elizabeth Sinclair to find. A separate contact of mine sent me 1881 census information that shows Robert Henderson's mother and grandmother as living in Dunrossness, Shetland, Scotland with 4 children ages 18, 16, 14 and 12. But Robert, who would have been 20-21, is not here. We also know that Robert and Elizabeth had Oliver Mowbray Henderson in Leith in 1884. My hypothesis is that for whatever reason, Robert had left home to find his way, and made his way to Leith. There I think he met Elizabeth Sinclair and married, with family shortly to follow. So I am working on following up on that. Anyone with any information related to this, let me know. Oh, I love this detective work. It's so thrilling! Doug Flummer Carbondale, Illinois, USA

Multimap shows you the street: http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?client=public&X=326750.076496703&Y=67 6250.591179927&gride=326804.076496703&gridn=676280.591179927&scale=5000&coor dsys=gb&db=GB&lang=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&localinfosel=&local=&kw=&srec=0&ma psize=big&db=GB&rt= Change the map to see more of the surrounding area. It is down at the foot of Leith Walk, near to the Port of Leith. Any Shetland strays out there? Kind regards, John Robertson www.shetlandroots.org

Dear Listers, I am hoping somebody can help me with, or maybe has connections to the following couple. AGNES WIGHTMAN STENHOUSE married GEORGE WILLIAM HARPER on 01.Nov 1924 in Newington, Edinburgh. Georges parents were GEORGE HARPER and JANE. George William was a Clerk at the ministry of pensions. Best Wishes, From, Michael in Norway. http://home.c2i.net/stenhouse/stenhouse/MICHAELSPAGES/INDEX. HTM Proud to be part of the FreeCen Project http://freecen.rootsweb.com/ All my outgoing mails are checked by Norton Antivirus 2004

>Census indexes for Edinburgh 1851? Is this a name index? If so, can anyone >point me to it, or would SKS look up the Stephensons and Pococks for me? We had a copy of Vol 1 & 2 at our local Family History Centre, but unfortunately there is a big reorganisation / downscaling going on, and these two volumes have gone - I'm not sure where. I have just done a big hunt on the web and located Vol 1 & 2 (the Old Town and the Canongate) in the Scottish Genealogy Society Library, but not Vol 3 (the New Town). They have Vol 3, parts 1 &2 for sale but not Vol 1 and 2. It is a very extensive index. Vol 3 is 671 pages in total. The purchase price is £55 even without postage which would be considerable since it's a heavy book. In New Zealand, I know that the National Library in Wellington holds copies - I think all three volumes - but I don't get there often The authors are N R & S Carstairs Catherine

Hi everyone, This week you can get free access to various databases on line (from the 10th to the 16th). The big draw card is "The Times Digital Archive" but also well worth a search is the "Eighteenth Century Collections Online", last time there was free access I managed to download a book of poetry and some plays of my 5 times great-grandfather James Mylne of Lochill, Aberlady, ELN published posthumously in 1790, included in the list of subscribers is Robert Burns. Here is the link: http://www.gale.com/ cheers John Dods Wellington, New Zealand Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for other ways of helping our hobby. Researching BATTERS in Yorkshire BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & West Lothian BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal COLLINS in California & PA COOPER in Yorkshire DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India DOUGLAS in Lanarkshire FENTON in Edinbugh FISHER in Yorkshire FORREST in South Africa HAYTON in Yorkshire HEWAT in East Lothian LAMONT in Lanarkshire LEGGAT in Monreal MCLEAN in Argyllshire RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire SEYMOUR in British Columbia & Montreal SHIRREFF in East Lothian SNELL in California, Oregeon SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in Yorkshire TROTTER, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire, West Lothian WATSON in Brantford & Barrie, Ontario. WEIR in Argyllshire,Lanarkshie WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

Love it! Thanks for sharing. Liz Dempster Southern Ontario Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Robertson" <john@marspub.co.uk> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 4:46 AM Subject: [MLN] A calendar for any year > > > > > > Another option that gives a calendar for any year. > > http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/generate.html > > > Kind regards, > John Robertson > www.shetlandroots.org > > > > > From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> > Subject: British Isles Census Information > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:26 -0700 > > List Members, > > Noted a number of questions regarding this topic on the List (?) so here > are the references to obtain answers. > > Date Calculator download (Great for calculation of old dates back to 1752) > > http://users.belgacom.net/bjm/datecalc/ > > Dates of UK Census this includes Scotland and Ireland > (Pre Republic) > > UK Census dates includes Scotland and Ireland > > The censuses for 1901 and 1911 Ireland are available via the FHC on film. > Note only the 1901 and 1911 Irish Censuses are intact others were > destroyed over the years or in the great genealogical tragedy of the > 1922 (or about) > > ScotlandPeople.web site have a number of censuses (Scotland) available > at their site > > http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ > > DATES of UK Census > > 1841 Sun/Mon. 6/7th June 1841 > 1851 Sun/Mon. 30/31st March 1851 > 1861 Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861 > 1871 Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871 > 1881 Sun/Mon. 3/4th April 1881\ > 1891 Sun/Mon. 5/6th April 1891 > 1901 Sun/Mon. 31st March / 1st April 1901 > 1911* Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1911 > > *(Not available before 1st Jan 2011 > > ---------------------------------------- > British Genealogy Society - Census information: > > http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/census/#menu > > If you Google, "UK census dates" you will obtain over 3 million hits > > Bob > Cdn. >

Thanks, Catherine! Appreciate the info. At L55 ++ I'll have to wait awhile! It's a pity the index isn't available on line - they could put it on a CD and sell many copies at a reasonable price. FreeCen has the 1841, a blessing - that's how I found my family. Have a lovely weekend! Azalea season here, the heat of summer has not yet begun. All the best, Sonia (Biloxi, MS, USA) -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Fitchett [mailto:cfitchett@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 12:18 AM To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] Re: 1851 census Edinburgh >Census indexes for Edinburgh 1851? Is this a name index? If so, can >anyone point me to it, or would SKS look up the Stephensons and Pococks for me? We had a copy of Vol 1 & 2 at our local Family History Centre, but unfortunately there is a big reorganisation / downscaling going on, and these two volumes have gone - I'm not sure where. I have just done a big hunt on the web and located Vol 1 & 2 (the Old Town and the Canongate) in the Scottish Genealogy Society Library, but not Vol 3 (the New Town). They have Vol 3, parts 1 &2 for sale but not Vol 1 and 2. It is a very extensive index. Vol 3 is 671 pages in total. The purchase price is £55 even without postage which would be considerable since it's a heavy book. In New Zealand, I know that the National Library in Wellington holds copies - I think all three volumes - but I don't get there often The authors are N R & S Carstairs Catherine

Hello John, Many thanks for the offer! I have a list from the index of the 3 Talbot families, in vol 3 part 2 edinburgh the new town But would very much like to know at what address these people lived at? Any further info from the index please get in touch, I would be thrilled to have any info you can find regarding this, Regards, and thanks. edith talbot -----Original Message----- From: J D v Dods [mailto:dodsfreecen@yahoo.com] Sent: 09 April 2005 04:10 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [MLN] Re: 1851 census Hi Edith, all 3 vol's are in our National Library. I intend to spent a lunch hour (about 35 min's when you deduct travelling & finding a car park time, :-) ), either next week or the week after, give me a shout if you want me to look this up. cheers John Dods Wellington, New Zealand > >Hello all, > >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the > three addresses of > >these families,from the following references, and > any one else residing > >with them. > >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 > >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 > bk 9 pg 5 > >sc14 > >surname TALBOT

Another option that gives a calendar for any year. http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/generate.html Kind regards, John Robertson www.shetlandroots.org From: hiflyte <hiflyte@telus.net> Subject: British Isles Census Information Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 17:50:26 -0700 List Members, Noted a number of questions regarding this topic on the List (?) so here are the references to obtain answers. Date Calculator download (Great for calculation of old dates back to 1752) http://users.belgacom.net/bjm/datecalc/ Dates of UK Census this includes Scotland and Ireland (Pre Republic) UK Census dates includes Scotland and Ireland The censuses for 1901 and 1911 Ireland are available via the FHC on film. Note only the 1901 and 1911 Irish Censuses are intact others were destroyed over the years or in the great genealogical tragedy of the 1922 (or about) ScotlandPeople.web site have a number of censuses (Scotland) available at their site http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ DATES of UK Census 1841 Sun/Mon. 6/7th June 1841 1851 Sun/Mon. 30/31st March 1851 1861 Sun/Mon. 7/8th April 1861 1871 Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1871 1881 Sun/Mon. 3/4th April 1881\ 1891 Sun/Mon. 5/6th April 1891 1901 Sun/Mon. 31st March / 1st April 1901 1911* Sun/Mon. 2/3rd April 1911 *(Not available before 1st Jan 2011 ---------------------------------------- British Genealogy Society - Census information: http://www.british-genealogy.com/resources/census/#menu If you Google, "UK census dates" you will obtain over 3 million hits Bob Cdn.

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Hi all, Another twig in my HENDERSON branch. Ann Kirkwood HENDERSON was born on 15 November 1883 in Newington Edinburgh. Her parents were Martin HENDERSON and Helen ALLAN. In the 1881 census Martin was a tinsmith, lodging at 43 St Patricks Sq, Edinburgh, so his marriage must have been after that. Any connections out there? Cheers Jan Queensland Australia

Violet, Many thanks for your reply, I will continue to search. edith talbot -----Original Message----- From: Steve & Violet [mailto:vs.hecnar@sympatico.ca] Sent: 08 April 2005 19:27 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] Re: 1851 census Hello Several years ago I was able to get the New Town Vol 3 of the Carstairs and Carstairs 1851 Census Name Index. I ordered it on Inter Lib Loan from my library here in Ontario Canada. It took 6 months to get here but well worth the wait ! I tried to do the same for the other 2 volumes - Old Town & Canongate ( I think it's called ). Unfortunately we couldn't get them on loan. Anyone living in Edinburgh or visitors there can access all 3 Volumes at GRO and NRH I believe. Cheers, Violet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Fitchett" <cfitchett@paradise.net.nz> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: 1851 census > >Hello all, > >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the three addresses of > >these families,from the following references, and any one else residing > >with them. > >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 > >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 bk 9 pg 5 > >sc14 > >surname TALBOT > > Where did you obtain these references? If they are from the series of > census indexes that I think they come from, the next step is to lookup the > reference numbers in the back of the book and it will tell you not only the > name of the street but also everyone residing at that address, whether > Talbots or not. > > If you are in contact with the original person who looked up the index, > they should be able to take the next step for you. These indexes are very > complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to volume 3 or I would look it > up for you > > Catherine > > ______________________________

Catherine, Many thanks for your reply, These references are from a 1851 census index that I photocopied While visiting Aberdeen family history society,I did'nt know that I could find further info re; street addresses in the back of the index these must be there indexed ref no's, am I correct in thinking this is what you mean. edith talbot -----Original Message----- From: Catherine Fitchett [mailto:cfitchett@paradise.net.nz] Sent: 08 April 2005 06:45 To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [MLN] Re: 1851 census >Hello all, >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the three addresses of >these families,from the following references, and any one else residing >with them. >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 bk 9 pg 5 >sc14 >surname TALBOT Where did you obtain these references? If they are from the series of census indexes that I think they come from, the next step is to lookup the reference numbers in the back of the book and it will tell you not only the name of the street but also everyone residing at that address, whether Talbots or not. If you are in contact with the original person who looked up the index, they should be able to take the next step for you. These indexes are very complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to volume 3 or I would look it up for you Catherine

On another list when some people were having problems it was resolved when they use IE. The scotspeople site apparently does not like Mozilla. Of course I don't know what browser you're currently using. Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "mcintosh" <jed@icr.com.au> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: [MLN] Problem with scotlandspeople site > Hello Listers > Is there someone who can sort out a problem for me, please? > After I have done a search on the above web site and am told I have 6 > hits, > I click the View button. > I am then getting a message that reads- > "A Variable binding error has occurred" > and I have to click cancell and it then returns me to the previous window. > I have Outlook Express 6 and I have checked my browser compatibility. I > have > gone out of the web site and back in and still I get the message. I have > accessed this site previously without a problem. > There does not seem to be any way to make contact with a person on the web > page! > Normally I would leave this for a while and then try again but with a time > span in use, I do not want to waste time and not make use of the units I > purchased. > Yours Aye Jane McIntosh > Australia > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 06/04/05 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 5/04/2005 > >

Hi Edith, all 3 vol's are in our National Library. I intend to spent a lunch hour (about 35 min's when you deduct travelling & finding a car park time, :-) ), either next week or the week after, give me a shout if you want me to look this up. cheers John Dods Wellington, New Zealand --- Edith Talbot <e.talbot@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote: > Catherine, > Many thanks for your reply, These references are > from a 1851 census > index that I photocopied While visiting Aberdeen > family history > society,I did'nt know that I could find further info > re; street > addresses in the back of the index these must be > there indexed ref no's, > am I correct in thinking this is what you mean. > > edith talbot > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Catherine Fitchett > [mailto:cfitchett@paradise.net.nz] > Sent: 08 April 2005 06:45 > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MLN] Re: 1851 census > > > >Hello all, > >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the > three addresses of > >these families,from the following references, and > any one else residing > >with them. > >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 > >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 > bk 9 pg 5 > >sc14 > >surname TALBOT > > Where did you obtain these references? If they are > from the series of > census indexes that I think they come from, the next > step is to lookup > the > reference numbers in the back of the book and it > will tell you not only > the > name of the street but also everyone residing at > that address, whether > Talbots or not. > > If you are in contact with the original person who > looked up the index, > they should be able to take the next step for you. > These indexes are > very > complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to > volume 3 or I would look > it > up for you > > Catherine > > > > > Proud to be a transcriber for the freeCEN Project and volunteer for Random Acts of Geneological Kindness Ask me how you can contribute to either of these worthy projects or for other ways of helping our hobby. Researching BATTERS in Yorkshire BENNIE in Lanarkshire, Dunbartonshire & West Lothian BENNING in Lanarkshire & Montreal COLLINS in California & PA COOPER in Yorkshire DODS in East Lothian, Berwickshire, British Columbia, Montreal, Manchester, South Africa, Hong Kong, India DOUGLAS in Lanarkshire FENTON in Edinbugh FISHER in Yorkshire FORREST in South Africa HAYTON in Yorkshire HEWAT in East Lothian LAMONT in Lanarkshire LEGGAT in Monreal MCLEAN in Argyllshire RANKINE in Dunbartonshire, Perthshire SEYMOUR in British Columbia & Montreal SHIRREFF in East Lothian SNELL in California, Oregeon SUFFILL/SUFFIELD in Yorkshire TROTTER, Lanarkshire, Stirlingshire, West Lothian WATSON in Brantford & Barrie, Ontario. WEIR in Argyllshire,Lanarkshie WILLIAMSON in Edinburgh & North Berwick __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Hi Sonia, Don't know if there are name indexes which can be purchased commercially for the 1851 Edinburgh census but if I remember correctly when I was in New Register House a couple of weeks ago they don't have one. Only a street name index to guide you to the right book. Hope that helps, Jim --- Gil & Sonia Murray <happyman70@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Hello! > > Census indexes for Edinburgh 1851? Is this a name > index? If so, can anyone > point me to it, or would SKS look up the Stephensons > and Pococks for me? I > have two rolls of the film at the FHL and am looking > page by page for my > people - spent three hours yesterday afternoon on > 3/4 of the first roll. > Didn't find any of them, but copied all the > Stevensons and Stevens I found, > and will be glad to send the entries if they are of > any use to anyone. > > Happy hunting, > > Sonia > > -----Original Message----- > From: Catherine Fitchett > [mailto:cfitchett@paradise.net.nz] > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:45 AM > To: MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MLN] Re: 1851 census > > > >Hello all, > >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the > three addresses of > >these families,from the following references, and > any one else residing > >with them. > >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 > >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 > bk 9 pg 5 > >sc14 > >surname TALBOT > > Where did you obtain these references? If they are > from the series of census > indexes that I think they come from, the next step > is to lookup the > reference numbers in the back of the book and it > will tell you not only the > name of the street but also everyone residing at > that address, whether > Talbots or not. > > If you are in contact with the original person who > looked up the index, they > should be able to take the next step for you. These > indexes are very > complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to > volume 3 or I would look it > up for you > > Catherine > > > >

>Hello all, >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the three addresses of >these families,from the following references, and any one else residing >with them. >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 bk 9 pg 5 >sc14 >surname TALBOT Where did you obtain these references? If they are from the series of census indexes that I think they come from, the next step is to lookup the reference numbers in the back of the book and it will tell you not only the name of the street but also everyone residing at that address, whether Talbots or not. If you are in contact with the original person who looked up the index, they should be able to take the next step for you. These indexes are very complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to volume 3 or I would look it up for you Catherine

Hello Several years ago I was able to get the New Town Vol 3 of the Carstairs and Carstairs 1851 Census Name Index. I ordered it on Inter Lib Loan from my library here in Ontario Canada. It took 6 months to get here but well worth the wait ! I tried to do the same for the other 2 volumes - Old Town & Canongate ( I think it's called ). Unfortunately we couldn't get them on loan. Anyone living in Edinburgh or visitors there can access all 3 Volumes at GRO and NRH I believe. Cheers, Violet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Fitchett" <cfitchett@paradise.net.nz> To: <MIDLOTHIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:44 AM Subject: Re: 1851 census > >Hello all, > >Please can anyone help, I am trying to trace the three addresses of > >these families,from the following references, and any one else residing > >with them. > >EDINBURGH The new town vol 3 part 2 > >1851 census ref 3046 hs 19 st112 bk 9 pg 5 > >sc14 > >surname TALBOT > > Where did you obtain these references? If they are from the series of > census indexes that I think they come from, the next step is to lookup the > reference numbers in the back of the book and it will tell you not only the > name of the street but also everyone residing at that address, whether > Talbots or not. > > If you are in contact with the original person who looked up the index, > they should be able to take the next step for you. These indexes are very > complete. Unfortunately I don't have access to volume 3 or I would look it > up for you > > Catherine > > ______________________________