hi Margaret, No Alice AIRD coming up unfortunately, under any spelling, so she died, married or moved out of Scotland. You don't state where these children of the former marriage were born. There are 4 WILLIAM NIVENs & 1 THOMAS in the Lowland Scottish 1881 born within 3 years of your sons' dobs. [Because the age given on a census can be misleading you can't assume that the one closest in age is yours.] The 4 WILLIAMs are recorded as having been born in Alexandria [Dunbartonshire], Ireland, Lochmaben [Dunfermline] and Edinburgh respectively. None were born in LKS. I have only found 1 THOMAS NIVEN and he's listed as being born b.c.1849 Whitburn [West Lothian] do you recognise any of these? if any, or all, are of interest, let me know and i'll send them. Margaret, and all those reading this, when posting an enquiry, it's a great idea to list all persons being sought, alongside all reasonable known data, as you did listing the kids of the previous marriage [1]year + age, [2]place of birth or origin - of every known member of the family. [3] relationship to Head [4] Occupation can be a great guide too. It makes all the difference to the person seeking them and who is likely to be unfamiliar with the family particularly if it turns out to be a fairly common name. :-) happy hunting le durachd fionnghal --- Margaret Jenkin <[email protected]> wrote: I have children named > Allice, Matilda & Thomas AIRD although Matilda was > married to a Thomas > NIVEN earlier and had children Agnes b 1847,William > b 1848 & Thomas b 1851 to that relationship. ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

found you AIRE parents, living in the household of son Andrew, wife and young family _ his brother, Thomas. See below. I'll have a look and see if Alice is around, though she may be married. re step-kids' surnames, I have instances of kids of previous marriages being hidden under the surname of the new marriage, but not always. you'd be best to take the broader view and follow up both names. sometimes they took the stepfather's name while in the family household but revert to their own when they leave home or marry. i have a case of that in my own family and i was a long time finding them as i'd never known of the subsequent marriage. the family had simply fallen off the planet! be back shortly fionnghal Dwelling: Gibsons Land Census Place: Bothwell, Lanark, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0203616 GRO Ref Vol.625-1 EnumDist 7 Pg.23 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Andrew AIRD M 38 M Calderbank, Lanark [LKS] Rel: Head Occ: Steel Shingler Jemima AIRD M 32 F Galston, Ayr Rel: Wife David AIRD 4 M Bellshill, LKS Rel: Son Andrew AIRD 2 M Bellshill, LKS Rel: Son James H. AIRD 1 M Bellshill, LKS Rel: Son Willm. AIRD M 58 M Mid Calder, LKS Rel: Father Occ: Unemployed Matilda AIRD M 59 F Linlithgow, Rel: Mother Thomas AIRD U 19 M Bellshill, LKS Rel: Brother Occ: Gen Labourer --- Margaret Jenkin <[email protected]> wrote: > I am wondering if someone would be good enough to > look up William & > Matilda AIRD. I have them at Bothwell Lanark in > 1871. They still > appear to be in Lanark in 1891 and 1901 although I ___________________________________________________________ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html

HI Gretchen - I have Borthwicks from Dalkeith in my family descendants - could you please share your information - I have a reasonable amount of info on my Dalkeith Borthwicks and would be happy to forward it on if it matches with yours. Many thanks, Sharyn from New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR marriages, Dalkeith, 1754 > Hi Susan, > > Thank you for all your work to help the rest of us "seekers". I have found > many of my family names in your certs., but am still in the 1800's looking. I > have printed off all of the ones that I feel may be useful when I get back to > the 1700's. I have COWAN, ROBERTSON, STEVENSON, BORTHWICK, WADDEL, just for > openers, so hoping to make a connection. > > Thanks again for sharing. > gretchen > Michigan USA > > > > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Susan, Thank you for all your work to help the rest of us "seekers". I have found many of my family names in your certs., but am still in the 1800's looking. I have printed off all of the ones that I feel may be useful when I get back to the 1700's. I have COWAN, ROBERTSON, STEVENSON, BORTHWICK, WADDEL, just for openers, so hoping to make a connection. Thanks again for sharing. gretchen Michigan USA ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi Doreen. Thanks very much - that was very kind. I knew he'd had a heart attack walking in the street etc. and is buried in Piershill cemetery.I can send for certificate now. Robert Ware, son, is of course my late uncle. Kind Regards, Brian. At 19:28 16/10/2007, you wrote: >Hello Brian > >No cost - it was just one quick look-up. > >Ref: 685/10 108 Leith South > >Arthur Ware aged 63, Masseur, married to Margaret Wilson, died on >17th. February 1930 in Restalrig Road, Leith. >Usual Residence: 21 Restalrig Crescent. >Parents: Robert Ware, Druggist, dec'd. and Jane Ware nee Smithson, dec'd. >Cause: Heart Disease >Informant: Robert Ware, son, 4 Links Street, Musselburgh. > >Hope this helps, > >Doreen. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Hello Brian No cost - it was just one quick look-up. Ref: 685/10 108 Leith South Arthur Ware aged 63, Masseur, married to Margaret Wilson, died on 17th. February 1930 in Restalrig Road, Leith. Usual Residence: 21 Restalrig Crescent. Parents: Robert Ware, Druggist, dec'd. and Jane Ware nee Smithson, dec'd. Cause: Heart Disease Informant: Robert Ware, son, 4 Links Street, Musselburgh. Hope this helps, Doreen.

Hello again Doreen, Thanks very much.Let me know cost etc. Kind Regards,Brian. At 20:52 15/10/2007, you wrote: > Brian > >I am going to the GRO tomorrow, so I can look up Arthur WARE's death >cert. and give you the details, > >Doreen. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" � The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

Hi Jean, I really appreciate you trying to help with my WATSON problem. Good luck with your research. I will endeavour to break down my brick wall. Christine in NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Christine I would love to be able to help you but your Watson go back before what i know of William My William was not born till about 1885 There is Catherine McCormick also married To a William Watson there is also a Mary McGuiness married to a William Watson Kind regards Jean On 10/14/07, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Susan and Jean, > Alexander WATSON is my Brick wall being born approx 1808 in Leith > according > to the English 1861 and 1871 Census. He must have left Scotland as a > youngster as he landed up marrying Jane HINDSON from Long Benton in > Bishopwearmouth Co. Durham in 1834.They called their eldest daughter > Rebecca > Bell WATSON so is that a clue. > He worked in the Coal Mines of Northumberland, being a Primitive Methodist > Lay Preacher he was jailed in Morpeth Prison for a couple of months on the > Treadmill as an example when an "Illegal" Strike took place in 1859. > Torture. He must have been a tough nut. I believe he had a brother John > WATSON who was a little older. > Christine and Peter in NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South > Leith,1771/1772 > > Hi Christine > So far i have only found William the infromation Susan gives out is very > helpfull this way we may find the connection . > Regards Jean > > > On 10/13/07, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Susan and Jean > > I am also interested in Alexander WATSON who was born approx 1808 in > > Leith. > > I wonder if this was perhaps his Father. > > Peter in NZ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old > > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South > > Leith,1771/1772 > > > > HI Susan > > You have another i am interested in Watson are any these people you look > > up > > are they your ancestors names as well. > > Kind regards jean > > > > > > On 10/12/07, Susan Hembury-Kellow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > SOME SPARE OPR BIRTHS/BAPTISMS, SOUTH LEITH, 1771/1772 > > > > > > George DEANS, born 27 Nov 1771; bap 4 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Andw. DEANS, Glassgrinder in Catton, and Isabell MORRISON, > Sp. > > > Witnesses: James ANGUS and David MUSTARD, Glassgrinders there. > > > > > > Margaret KERR, born 28 Nov 1771; bap 5 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: William KERR, Porter in Leith, and Isabell AUCHINLECK, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. AUCHINLECK, Cooper in Nether Liberton, and Jos. WEST, > > > Porter > > > in Leith. > > > > > > Helen ABERNETHY, "born 6th; bap 15th Dec 1772" [sic - should be > 1771?]. > > > Parents: Robt. ABERNETHY, Wright in Leith, and Janet COOK, Spouse. > > > Witnesses: Francis LAMB, Shoemaker in Leith, and Jas. SPEIRS, Wright > > > there. > > > > > > William KILLGOUR, born 8 Dec 1771; bap 15 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Willm. KILLGOUR, Sailor in Leith, and Joseph (blank), Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. KILLGOUR, Weaver, and Andw. KILLGOUR, Smith there. > > > > > > Peter BUNTON, born 18 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Peter BUNTON, Shoemaker in Catton, and Janet SMITH, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. BLACK, Shoemaker, Edin'r., and Alexr. FRASER, > Shoemaker, > > > yr. > > > > > > Alexander WATSON, born 21 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Alexr. WATSON, Cardmaker in Leith, and Christian SPENCE, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Archibald SHANKS, Shoemaker, and Jas. MOODIE, Mariner > there. > > > > > > Mary HOWISON, born 6 Dec 1771; bap 18 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: George HOWISON, Ship Master in Leith, and Mary GARDNER, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Geo: and Jno: GARDNER, Grandfather and Uncle to the Child. > > > > > > Elizabeth FLEEMING, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 8 Jan 1772. > > > Parents: John FLEEMING, Brewer in Catton, and Jean LENNOX, Sp. > > > Witnesses: George BAIRNSFATHER, Brewer there, and James GOODALL, > Wright > > in > > > Cannongate. > > > > > > William GEMMILL, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 12 Jan 1772. > > > Parents: James GEMMILL, Flesher in Leith, and Agnes ANDERSON, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Robert GILMOR, Flesher in Leith, and Robt. ANDERSON, Sailor > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards Jean > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kind regards Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Brian I am going to the GRO tomorrow, so I can look up Arthur WARE's death cert. and give you the details, Doreen.

Hi Sue, Thank you so much for all your help and advice and all that interesting info. Incidentally one of the other men jailed with Alexander WATSON was Henry BELL. Perhaps this name could help. We will do some investigating about non conformists as well. As you say unfortunately his name would be WATSON. Christine and Peter in NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Hembury-Kellow Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 11:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Christine and Peter, There is a possibility that you'll need to search through non conformist records to find Alexander's baptism details (bearing in mind that he was a Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher). I'm not 100% sure about the location of these, but I'm fairly sure that non conformist records aren't held by the GROS (General Register Office for Scotland); instead, I think they may be at the NAS (National Archives of Scotland) see http://www.nas.gov.uk/ (but see below). I think I may have found out why Alexander's eldest daughter was called Rebecca Bell WATSON - in 1841, Alexander and family were at the same address as (but different household to) a Rebecca BELL at Whitley, Tynemouth, Northumberland: 1841 census Whitley, Tynemouth, Northumberland James BELL, 20, Coal Cutter, Y George BELL, 15, Coal Cutter, Y James BELL, 14, Coal Cutter, Y Jane BELL, 9, Y Rebecca BELL, 30, Independent, Y *** Alexander WATSON, 30, Coal Cutter, S(cotland) Jane WATSON, 35, Independent, Y John WATSON, 6, Y I just had a thought, and had a look in the British Vital Records Index v2. and found the following baptism: WATSON, Alexander Birth Date: 5 Jun 1809 Christening Date: 6 Jul 1809, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURNS I couldn't see a brother John WATSON, but did find two sisters, Janet and Mary: WATSON, Janet Birth Date: 21 Feb 1805 Christening Date: 28 Feb 1805, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURNS WATSON, Mary Birth Date: 7 Oct 1812 Christening Date: 15 Oct 1812, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURN I should point out though that there were lots of WATSONs baptised in South Leith alone, so this may not be your Alexander. (Fingers crossed though!). Best wishes, Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine Sent: 14 October 2007 10:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Susan and Jean, Alexander WATSON is my Brick wall being born approx 1808 in Leith according to the English 1861 and 1871 Census. He must have left Scotland as a youngster as he landed up marrying Jane HINDSON from Long Benton in Bishopwearmouth Co. Durham in 1834.They called their eldest daughter Rebecca Bell WATSON so is that a clue. He worked in the Coal Mines of Northumberland, being a Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher he was jailed in Morpeth Prison for a couple of months on the Treadmill as an example when an "Illegal" Strike took place in 1859. Torture. He must have been a tough nut. I believe he had a brother John WATSON who was a little older. Christine and Peter in NZ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

SOME SPARE OPR MARRIAGES, NORTH LEITH, 1818 Andrew ADESS, Gunner, R. Artillery, and Janet COOK in this parish, after the usual proclamation of Banns were married 17 Jan 1818. William HENDERSON, Baker of this parish, and Lilly KNOX in S. Leith, after proclamation of Banns were married 3 Feb 1818 by Dr. IRELAND. John FARQUHAR, Tidewaiter, and Margt. WRIGHT, both of this parish, after the usual proclamation were married 6 Feb 1818 by Dr. IRELAND. James FLUCKER, Fisherman, and Jean HEMSLEY, both of this parish, after the usual proclamation were married 11 Feb 1818 by Dr. IRELAND. John STRACHAN, Carpenter, and Mary DUNCAN, both of this parish, after the usual proclamation of Banns were married 12 Feb 1818. John SHEDAR, Seaman in Coathill, and Catherine MCKENZIE in S. Leith, after proclamation of Banns were married 14 Feb 1818 by Dr. JOHNSTON. John TOSH, Shipmaster, Dundee, and Elisabeth STEVENS, N. Leith, after proclamation of Banns were married 18 Feb 1818 by Dr. JOHNSTON. John HENDERSON, Printer, and Mary RODDOCK, both in N. Leith, after proclamation were married 18 Feb 1818 by Dr. IRELAND.

SOME SPARE OPR BIRTHS/BAPTISMS, SOUTH LEITH, MAINLY 1791 James OMAN, born 6 Apr 1791; bap 14 Apr 1791. Parents: John OMAN, Sailor in Leith, and Lillias MACANDREW, Sp. Witnesses: John KNOX, Sailor in Leith, and James NIDDERY, Taylor there. Jean LONIE, born 9 Apr 1791; bap 14 Apr 1791. Parents: John LONIE, Workman in Leith, and Elizabeth ROBERTSON, Sp. Witnesses: George MACDOUGAL, Workman in Leith, and William CRAIG, Workman there. James FRAZER, born 10 Apr 1791; bap 14 Apr 1791. Parents: Alexander FRAZER, Plaisterer in Leith, and Gray MUNRO, Sp. Witnesses: James MUNRO, Ropemaker in Leith, and Peter MUNRO, Ropemaker there. Isabella PEATTIE, born 30 Mar 1791; bap 14 Apr 1791. Parents: George PEATTIE, Bookseller in Leith, and Helen MACCASLAN, Sp. Witnesses: Thomas THOMSON, Merchant in Leith, and William WOOD, Shoemaker there. Helen MELVIL, born 9 Apr 1791; bap 11 Apr 1791. Parents: William MELVIL, Porter in Leith, and Helen THOMSON, Sp. Witnesses: Robert WILLIAMSON, Porter in Leith, and Henry SAMUEL, Porter there. Thomas SIBBALD, born 1 Feb 1789; bap 10 Feb 1789. Parents: Mr William SIBBALD, Merchant in Leith, and Katharin GRIEVE, Sp. Witnesses: Mr James SIBBALD, Bookseller in Edinburgh, and Mr Walter BRUNTON, Saddler there. Robert SIBBALD, born 19 Jan 1790; bap 27 Jan 1790. Parents: Mr William SIBBALD, Merchant in Leith, and Katharin GRIEVE, Sp. Witnesses: Mr James SIBBALD, Bookseller in Edinburgh, and Mr Walter BRUNTON, Saddler there. Hugh SIBBALD, born 28 Feb 1791; bap 15 Mar 1791. Parents: Mr William SIBBALD, Merchant in Leith, and Katharin GRIEVE, Sp. Witnesses: Mr James SIBBALD, Bookseller in Edinburgh, and Mr Walter BRUNTON, Saddler there. "NB - The above three Childrens names not being sooner notified to the Clerk is the reason of their being insert here." Elizabeth STEWART, born 16 Apr 1791; bap 24 Apr 1791. Parents: Thomas STEWART, Workman in Caltoun, and Christian REID, Sp. Witnesses: John LEISHMAN, Mason in Crosscausy, and William ELPHINSTON, Mason there. Isabel MILNE, born 4 Apr 1791; bap 24 Apr 1791. Parents: Archibald MILNE, Brewer in Abbyhill, and Mary RALPH, Sp. Witnesses: Alexander MILL, Brewer in Abbyhill, and John CRAIGIE, Brewer in Quarryholes. William URQUHART, born 17 Apr 1791; bap 24 Apr 1791. Parents: Alexander URQUHART, Corkcutter in Leith, and Margaret KERR, Sp. Witnesses: Thomas BAXTER, Plaisterer in Leith, and Alexander URQUHART, Smith there. Elizabeth AITKEN, born 10 Apr 1791; bap 24 Apr 1791. Parents: John AITKEN, Ropemaker in Leith, and Elizabeth MERCER. Witnesses: Andrew AITKEN, Ropemaker in Leith, and John STIVEN, Ropemaker there. Footnote: "For Mr John DUDGEON Merchant sons name Peter see 19th May 1793"

Hi Christine I would love to be able to help you but your Watson go back before what i know of William My William was not born till about 1885 There is Catherine McCormick also married To a William Watson there is also a Mary McGuiness married to a William Watson Kind regards Jean On 10/14/07, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Susan and Jean, > Alexander WATSON is my Brick wall being born approx 1808 in Leith > according > to the English 1861 and 1871 Census. He must have left Scotland as a > youngster as he landed up marrying Jane HINDSON from Long Benton in > Bishopwearmouth Co. Durham in 1834.They called their eldest daughter > Rebecca > Bell WATSON so is that a clue. > He worked in the Coal Mines of Northumberland, being a Primitive Methodist > Lay Preacher he was jailed in Morpeth Prison for a couple of months on the > Treadmill as an example when an "Illegal" Strike took place in 1859. > Torture. He must have been a tough nut. I believe he had a brother John > WATSON who was a little older. > Christine and Peter in NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South > Leith,1771/1772 > > Hi Christine > So far i have only found William the infromation Susan gives out is very > helpfull this way we may find the connection . > Regards Jean > > > On 10/13/07, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Susan and Jean > > I am also interested in Alexander WATSON who was born approx 1808 in > > Leith. > > I wonder if this was perhaps his Father. > > Peter in NZ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old > > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:35 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South > > Leith,1771/1772 > > > > HI Susan > > You have another i am interested in Watson are any these people you look > > up > > are they your ancestors names as well. > > Kind regards jean > > > > > > On 10/12/07, Susan Hembury-Kellow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > SOME SPARE OPR BIRTHS/BAPTISMS, SOUTH LEITH, 1771/1772 > > > > > > George DEANS, born 27 Nov 1771; bap 4 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Andw. DEANS, Glassgrinder in Catton, and Isabell MORRISON, > Sp. > > > Witnesses: James ANGUS and David MUSTARD, Glassgrinders there. > > > > > > Margaret KERR, born 28 Nov 1771; bap 5 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: William KERR, Porter in Leith, and Isabell AUCHINLECK, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. AUCHINLECK, Cooper in Nether Liberton, and Jos. WEST, > > > Porter > > > in Leith. > > > > > > Helen ABERNETHY, "born 6th; bap 15th Dec 1772" [sic - should be > 1771?]. > > > Parents: Robt. ABERNETHY, Wright in Leith, and Janet COOK, Spouse. > > > Witnesses: Francis LAMB, Shoemaker in Leith, and Jas. SPEIRS, Wright > > > there. > > > > > > William KILLGOUR, born 8 Dec 1771; bap 15 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Willm. KILLGOUR, Sailor in Leith, and Joseph (blank), Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. KILLGOUR, Weaver, and Andw. KILLGOUR, Smith there. > > > > > > Peter BUNTON, born 18 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Peter BUNTON, Shoemaker in Catton, and Janet SMITH, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Jno. BLACK, Shoemaker, Edin'r., and Alexr. FRASER, > Shoemaker, > > > yr. > > > > > > Alexander WATSON, born 21 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: Alexr. WATSON, Cardmaker in Leith, and Christian SPENCE, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Archibald SHANKS, Shoemaker, and Jas. MOODIE, Mariner > there. > > > > > > Mary HOWISON, born 6 Dec 1771; bap 18 Dec 1771. > > > Parents: George HOWISON, Ship Master in Leith, and Mary GARDNER, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Geo: and Jno: GARDNER, Grandfather and Uncle to the Child. > > > > > > Elizabeth FLEEMING, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 8 Jan 1772. > > > Parents: John FLEEMING, Brewer in Catton, and Jean LENNOX, Sp. > > > Witnesses: George BAIRNSFATHER, Brewer there, and James GOODALL, > Wright > > in > > > Cannongate. > > > > > > William GEMMILL, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 12 Jan 1772. > > > Parents: James GEMMILL, Flesher in Leith, and Agnes ANDERSON, Sp. > > > Witnesses: Robert GILMOR, Flesher in Leith, and Robt. ANDERSON, Sailor > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards Jean > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kind regards Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Thanks Sheila. Brian. At 15:17 15/10/2007, you wrote: >Sorry Brian, no. I posted just the few registrations that were on the pages >I dowloaded, thinking they would be useful to somebody. Try scotlandspeople, >that's where I found the information. > >Happy hunting. > >Sheila ___________________________________________________________ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

In a message dated 10/14/2007 22:31:24 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Do you have anything for an Arthur WARE, died 1930 Edinburgh, please. Sorry Brian, no. I posted just the few registrations that were on the pages I dowloaded, thinking they would be useful to somebody. Try scotlandspeople, that's where I found the information. Happy hunting. Sheila

Hi Christine and Peter, There is a possibility that you'll need to search through non conformist records to find Alexander's baptism details (bearing in mind that he was a Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher). I'm not 100% sure about the location of these, but I'm fairly sure that non conformist records aren't held by the GROS (General Register Office for Scotland); instead, I think they may be at the NAS (National Archives of Scotland) see http://www.nas.gov.uk/ (but see below). I think I may have found out why Alexander's eldest daughter was called Rebecca Bell WATSON - in 1841, Alexander and family were at the same address as (but different household to) a Rebecca BELL at Whitley, Tynemouth, Northumberland: 1841 census Whitley, Tynemouth, Northumberland James BELL, 20, Coal Cutter, Y George BELL, 15, Coal Cutter, Y James BELL, 14, Coal Cutter, Y Jane BELL, 9, Y Rebecca BELL, 30, Independent, Y *** Alexander WATSON, 30, Coal Cutter, S(cotland) Jane WATSON, 35, Independent, Y John WATSON, 6, Y I just had a thought, and had a look in the British Vital Records Index v2. and found the following baptism: WATSON, Alexander Birth Date: 5 Jun 1809 Christening Date: 6 Jul 1809, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURNS I couldn't see a brother John WATSON, but did find two sisters, Janet and Mary: WATSON, Janet Birth Date: 21 Feb 1805 Christening Date: 28 Feb 1805, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURNS WATSON, Mary Birth Date: 7 Oct 1812 Christening Date: 15 Oct 1812, South Leith, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Alexander WATSON Mother: Janet BURN I should point out though that there were lots of WATSONs baptised in South Leith alone, so this may not be your Alexander. (Fingers crossed though!). Best wishes, Sue -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christine Sent: 14 October 2007 10:52 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Susan and Jean, Alexander WATSON is my Brick wall being born approx 1808 in Leith according to the English 1861 and 1871 Census. He must have left Scotland as a youngster as he landed up marrying Jane HINDSON from Long Benton in Bishopwearmouth Co. Durham in 1834.They called their eldest daughter Rebecca Bell WATSON so is that a clue. He worked in the Coal Mines of Northumberland, being a Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher he was jailed in Morpeth Prison for a couple of months on the Treadmill as an example when an "Illegal" Strike took place in 1859. Torture. He must have been a tough nut. I believe he had a brother John WATSON who was a little older. Christine and Peter in NZ

Hi Susan and Jean, Alexander WATSON is my Brick wall being born approx 1808 in Leith according to the English 1861 and 1871 Census. He must have left Scotland as a youngster as he landed up marrying Jane HINDSON from Long Benton in Bishopwearmouth Co. Durham in 1834.They called their eldest daughter Rebecca Bell WATSON so is that a clue. He worked in the Coal Mines of Northumberland, being a Primitive Methodist Lay Preacher he was jailed in Morpeth Prison for a couple of months on the Treadmill as an example when an "Illegal" Strike took place in 1859. Torture. He must have been a tough nut. I believe he had a brother John WATSON who was a little older. Christine and Peter in NZ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 3:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Christine So far i have only found William the infromation Susan gives out is very helpfull this way we may find the connection . Regards Jean On 10/13/07, Christine <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Susan and Jean > I am also interested in Alexander WATSON who was born approx 1808 in > Leith. > I wonder if this was perhaps his Father. > Peter in NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jean old > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 7:35 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South > Leith,1771/1772 > > HI Susan > You have another i am interested in Watson are any these people you look > up > are they your ancestors names as well. > Kind regards jean > > > On 10/12/07, Susan Hembury-Kellow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > SOME SPARE OPR BIRTHS/BAPTISMS, SOUTH LEITH, 1771/1772 > > > > George DEANS, born 27 Nov 1771; bap 4 Dec 1771. > > Parents: Andw. DEANS, Glassgrinder in Catton, and Isabell MORRISON, Sp. > > Witnesses: James ANGUS and David MUSTARD, Glassgrinders there. > > > > Margaret KERR, born 28 Nov 1771; bap 5 Dec 1771. > > Parents: William KERR, Porter in Leith, and Isabell AUCHINLECK, Sp. > > Witnesses: Jno. AUCHINLECK, Cooper in Nether Liberton, and Jos. WEST, > > Porter > > in Leith. > > > > Helen ABERNETHY, "born 6th; bap 15th Dec 1772" [sic - should be 1771?]. > > Parents: Robt. ABERNETHY, Wright in Leith, and Janet COOK, Spouse. > > Witnesses: Francis LAMB, Shoemaker in Leith, and Jas. SPEIRS, Wright > > there. > > > > William KILLGOUR, born 8 Dec 1771; bap 15 Dec 1771. > > Parents: Willm. KILLGOUR, Sailor in Leith, and Joseph (blank), Sp. > > Witnesses: Jno. KILLGOUR, Weaver, and Andw. KILLGOUR, Smith there. > > > > Peter BUNTON, born 18 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > Parents: Peter BUNTON, Shoemaker in Catton, and Janet SMITH, Sp. > > Witnesses: Jno. BLACK, Shoemaker, Edin'r., and Alexr. FRASER, Shoemaker, > > yr. > > > > Alexander WATSON, born 21 Dec 1771; bap 29 Dec 1771. > > Parents: Alexr. WATSON, Cardmaker in Leith, and Christian SPENCE, Sp. > > Witnesses: Archibald SHANKS, Shoemaker, and Jas. MOODIE, Mariner there. > > > > Mary HOWISON, born 6 Dec 1771; bap 18 Dec 1771. > > Parents: George HOWISON, Ship Master in Leith, and Mary GARDNER, Sp. > > Witnesses: Geo: and Jno: GARDNER, Grandfather and Uncle to the Child. > > > > Elizabeth FLEEMING, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 8 Jan 1772. > > Parents: John FLEEMING, Brewer in Catton, and Jean LENNOX, Sp. > > Witnesses: George BAIRNSFATHER, Brewer there, and James GOODALL, Wright > in > > Cannongate. > > > > William GEMMILL, born 29 Dec 1771; bap 12 Jan 1772. > > Parents: James GEMMILL, Flesher in Leith, and Agnes ANDERSON, Sp. > > Witnesses: Robert GILMOR, Flesher in Leith, and Robt. ANDERSON, Sailor > > there. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Kind regards Jean > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers, It looks as if my SCT ancestry goes back to:- William SANDERSON = Marion HENDERSON at Currie 1781 Their son William SANDERSON bn 1785 = Ann BALLANTINE at St Andrews Edinburgh, 1805. Issue. David bn 1808 Alexander bn 1809 Elizabeth Katherine SANDERSON Family settled at Penicuik - papermakers. David seems to have worked for a paper / timber firm and settled in S WLS. He travelled all over N Europe, (mge in Finland) and Russia. Alexander joined the City of LND Police. He married Jessie ROBERTSON in the City. Jessie was the d/o William, a Farmer, from SCT, somewhere. Thanks, Alan Merryweather. ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Hembury-Kellow To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Some spare OPR births/baptisms, South Leith,1771/1772 Hi Jean, The info was merely some spare data from my own researches. When you download a page from the OPRs it will invariably contain not just the record you wanted, but a few other records as well. I thought it would be a good idea to transcribe these rather just leaving them to moulder in my computer files, and actually began transcribing my OPRs for the Angus list quite some while back (most of my ancestors were from Angus and Perthshire). However, I also have ancestors from Midlothian, the main names being URQUHART, ROBERTSON and KERR (from Dalkeith and South Leith). Best wishes, Sue ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sheila, Do you have anything for an Arthur WARE, died 1930 Edinburgh, please. Kind REgards, Brian At 18:59 14/10/2007, you wrote: >More deaths for Auld Reekie in 1920. > >Sheila. > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - with free PC-PC calling and photo sharing. http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi I am Interested in the Egan one i have a couple of Egans which i have not searched yet so this may come in Handy regards jean On 10/14/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > I shall follow Susan's example and post details of some marriages I > downloaded. > If anyone needs more details feel free to contact me. Note - The following > are not on my family tree so I cannot give other connections, only parents > and > addresses. > > South Leith marriages 1897 > > David ROBERTSON, age 27, labourer married Annie McDONALD, age 23, packer > in > a wine store, > on 15 January 1897. > > Richard WEIR, age 31, Blacksmith Domestic, married Jeanie WALLACE, age > 28, > widow of William Wallace (Millworker) at Burlington Street, > Leith. Jeanie's > maiden name - Irvine. Married 15th January 1897. > > > South Leith 1900 Marriages > > Patrick EGAN, widower, age 36, Waiter in Public House married > Annie KEENAN, widow, age 33, on 27th February 1900. Catholic Chapel.. > > Walter ROSS. ironsmith, age 25 married Margaret GRAHAM, Dairymaid, age 31, > on 2nd March 1900 > at Balfour Street, Leith, after banns according to the Church > of Scotland. > > I hope someone is lucky! > > Sheila. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean