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    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] naming pattern
    2. Liz Dempster
    3. Hi Tracy. The following site gives you a good breakdown of the naming pattern. My families have pretty much followed this. I have also found that if the first son is named for the father's father, then they all pretty much have the same name. (i.e. my grandfather is, Lauchlan John, his father is Lauchlan John, his father is Lauchlan John, his father is Lauchlan John and then......his father is - John! That is as far back as I have found them and haven't found out why that happened. My grandfather broke the pattern when their first son was born. He was named after an uncle. Then the Lauchlan showed up as a middle name for their 4th son. The rest of their 6 boys were named after uncles of my grandmother and grandfather, with some having family names as a middle name. . Our women seem to follow the naming patterns as well, the prominent name being Cecilia. So...visit the site, it may help you out. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~scottish/ScottishNamingPatterns.html Regards Liz Dempster Ontario Canada Paternal Grandfather Side: Dempster, Gordon, Lindsay, Mills, McKay, Syme, King, Kemp, Dickie, Dickson, Forrest, Laing, Moncur, Reid, Ritchie, Buchanan, Simpson, Shillinglaw, Wier, White Tweedie Paternal Grandmother, Fraser, Swan, Allan, Peddie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy McCallum" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] naming pattern > Hi Listers, > I understand that in the Scottish naming pattern, the eldest son is named > after his paternal grandfather, the eldest d. after her maternal > grandmother, the second son after his maternal grandfather, and the second > daughter after her paternal grandmother. Is this correct? And is there > more to it than that? > > Your wisdom appreciated! > > Tracy McCallum > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/24/2007 02:48:26
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] naming pattern
    2. Trena
    3. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy McCallum" Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] naming pattern > Hi Listers, > I understand that in the Scottish naming pattern, the eldest son is named > after his paternal grandfather, the eldest d. after her maternal > grandmother, the second son after his maternal grandfather, and the second > daughter after her paternal grandmother. Is this correct? And is there > more to it than that? This should help, but is only a guide. (In several of my own Scottish families, the 3rd daughter was named for the mother; 4th for mother's eldest sister .. so 'pattern is not written in stone.) http://www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm Relationships (?# of cousin .. ?# of removes etc) .. scoll down for chart; print off & keep for future reference. http://www.genproxy.co.uk/relationships_progenitor_cousin.htm Toni ~ Ontario

    11/24/2007 02:19:16
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] naming pattern
    2. Tracy McCallum
    3. Hi Listers, I understand that in the Scottish naming pattern, the eldest son is named after his paternal grandfather, the eldest d. after her maternal grandmother, the second son after his maternal grandfather, and the second daughter after her paternal grandmother. Is this correct? And is there more to it than that? Your wisdom appreciated! Tracy McCallum

    11/24/2007 09:59:14
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] Elliott Family
    2. Gordon Crooks
    3. I am trying to find information of a "Reds Elliott who migrated to Baltimore, Md., USA in 1770, we think he was born in 1758 and maybe in the Liddesdale valley. It is know that the Elliott family was involved in the Jacobite Rebellion. He never used is given name and futhermore his children used their mothers maiden name which was Pryor, it is said that one of his sons later made claim to Elliott estate in Scotland, but the claim was denied. Can anyone help me find additional info. on this Reds Elliott? Gordon Crooks

    11/24/2007 02:12:21
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] MIs and Mort Cloths - Dalkeith - CHRISTIE and RENWICK
    2. Ruth or Bill
    3. Hello everyone, I'm wondering if there are indexes of Mort Cloth fees or Monumental Inscriptions for Dalkeith. I am interested in the death of a Peter CHRISTIE and/or his wife Janet CHRISTIE nee RENWICK. I am trying to establish whether Janet RENWICK died about 1827 and that Peter then married a Janet McMILLAN in 1828 and died himself between 1841 and 1851. I've done a bit of a google on it and was hoping the MIs might come in book form but this doesn't appear to be the case?. Cheers Ruth

    11/23/2007 03:18:19
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] MIs and Mortcloths - Dalkeith - CHRISTIE & RENWICK
    2. Duncan Smith
    3. Ruth asked ... 'I'm wondering if there are indexes of Mort Cloth fees or Monumental Inscriptions for Dalkeith. I am interested in the death of a Peter CHRISTIE and/or his wife Janet CHRISTIE nee RENWICK' ..... I am not aware of any booklet of MI's currently on sale for Dalkeith, but you could try ordering the Dalkeith burials for 1820-1854 from a LDS centre. I think you need film no. 103019. Additionally, you might try e-mailing the library at Loanhead on [email protected] as I believe they do keep some M.I. inscriptions for such places as St Nicholas & West End, and perhaps they would be willing to answer a specific point or two for you. Duncan, Dundee

    11/22/2007 05:13:57
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] CAMPBELL/MATTHEW/WINK
    2. Lynne Price
    3. Hello Listers, I am new to the List and am seeking help in finding the Parents and birthplace in Scotland of my Great Great Grandfather John CAMPBELL. I have so far hit a gigantic "BRICK WALL". John married and had a family in Elgin, Morayshire but I can't find any trace of his birth anywhere in Morayshire so I am now searching in other counties. My Great, Great Grandparents were JOHN CAMPBELL and ANN MATTHEWS. We have found that John had a brother ALEXANDER CAMPBELL who married ANN WINK. The information I have so far on the CAMPBELL & WINK families is; JOHN CAMPBELL b. about 1819 - but parents and place of birth unknown. Died 07 April 1847 at Elgin. John married ANN MATTHEWS (daughter of JAMES MATTHEWS & JEAN SIMPSON) in Elgin on 25 May 1839. Ann was bapt. 18 Oct. 1814 at Elgin and died at 119 Dundee St., Edinburgh, aged 79 yrs. JOHN CAMPBELL - died 07 April 1847, aged 28 years, House Carpenter in Elgin, and was interred in the Cathedral Churchyard, Elgin, on 9th April 1847. Children of John & Ann were: 1. JAMES CAMPBELL b. 07 March 1840 Elgin. Died 10 Feb. 1904, Edinburgh. James married ANN McPHERSON 16 Jan 1866, Carse of Ardersier, County of Inverness. (James became a house builder & joiner in Edinburgh and had his own business) 2. JOHN CAMPBELL b. 15 May 1841, Elgin. died 04 May 1870, New Elgin. Married but wife unknown. John was a Lance Corporal in the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders Regiment and served at Sialkot district in India 1860's. We have an old photo of John and his wife and 3 small children ( taken in the 1860's) but we have no info on his wife or childrens names. 3. ANN CAMPBELL b. 15 Jan 1843, Nairn, Nairn. Unmarried. Was a shopkeeper with her mother @ 119 Dundee St, Edinburgh. 4. ROBERT ALEXANDER CAMPBELL b. 01 Sept. 1844, Forres, Moray. Married BARBARA SMART on 03 Jan 1868, Leslie, Fife, Scotland. Known as "Alexander" he became a tailor and owned his own business in Edinburgh. 5. WILLIAM FERGUSON CAMPBELL b. about 1847/1848 in Elgin. His birth was never registered but it is believed he was born very close to the time of his father's death on 07 April 1848 at Elgin. William married ROBINA SNADDON/SNEDDON in Adelaide, South Australia on 25 May 1868. ALEXANDER CAMPBELL married ANN WINK about 1836/37 but have not been able to find the date or place of their marriage. Ann was the daughter of John WINK & Janet DOWNIE. Alexander & Ann had 2 children, John Campbell CAMPBELL born 12 Nov. 1838 and Alexander CAMPBELL born 25 Sept. 1840. Alexander's son John CAMPBELL married Margaret Jane TOUGH in Forres on the 7th July 1869. John & Margaret emigrated to Queensland, Australia shortly after their marriage and their first child was born on Queensland in April 1870. John's occupation was a Flour Miller. Margaret was the daughter of James TOUGH & Elizabeth MENZIES. Second son Alexander CAMPBELL married Ann ALLAN . No date or place for their marriage yet found, nor for the births of their children. Alexander was a school teacher and the family was found in the 1881 Census living at the Industrial School House in Kelso. He died at Kelso School house on the 4th June 1885 aged 44 yrs, leaving a wife and 6 children between the ages of 1 and 10 years. If you are able to help in any way in finding the parents & birth place of my GG Grandfather John CAMPBELL and his brother Alexander, or can put me in touch with other researchers who may also be a descendant of any of the above families, I would be very grateful. Kind regards Lynne Price - Australia [email protected] Names connected to my CAMPBELL family are: MATTHEW/MATTHEWS, SIMPSON, CHRISTIE, WINK, DOWNIE, MCPHERSON, SMART, SNADON/SNEDDON, TOUGH, MENZIES, ALLAN.

    11/19/2007 03:06:01
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Gordon Crooks
    3. Not only were the original Crooks lowlanders, they paid tribute for protection to the Stewarts. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' > > >> Regret to be a contrarian, however my family were certainly not >> Highlanders > > I'd have to agree, the vast majority of my family are Lowland Scots with > no > known Highland associations and yet usually followed the naming pattern. > Mind you, the situation may have been different in the larger towns and > cities, most of my folk were country dwellers. > > Steve > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.33/1132 - Release Date: > 11/15/2007 9:34 AM >

    11/16/2007 12:31:14
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. > Regret to be a contrarian, however my family were certainly not > Highlanders I'd have to agree, the vast majority of my family are Lowland Scots with no known Highland associations and yet usually followed the naming pattern. Mind you, the situation may have been different in the larger towns and cities, most of my folk were country dwellers. Steve

    11/15/2007 11:54:27
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Judith
    3. Hi Lloyd, What sort of record of the marriage do you have? If it was the IGI then try searching the OPR's on Scotland's People for the original document which may have more details. If you dont want to use a credit card on line , you may also like to go to your local LDS Family History Centre and order in the film for Lilliesleaf if it is available. Doing it that way you may be able to get births, deaths and marriages for that area and could check out any other Crooks in the area. Did they have a second daughter? If the naming pattern was followed, then the eldest son and the second daughter would carry the names of Robert's parents. Mind you not all of Scotland followed the naming pattern which was a highland custom. The lowlands of Scotland mostly didn't. If there were families in the lowlands who did follow the naming pattern it was pretty safe to say they had originated in the highlands. Have you got the death certificate for Robert? Not sure if Canada includes names of parents on death certs but it is a possibility. It would or should give you his age which again may help to narrow down his date of birth and parents. If you know where he died you may also try obituaries in the local papers. Also you might try naturalisation papers. Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Crooks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' >I have a record of a Robert Crooks and Jane (Jean) Turnbull marriage on > March 22, 1832 in Lilliesleaf, Scotland. Her family is well documented, > but I have no record of his ancestory. Their oldest son was named > George, and from what I know of the Scottish traditional naming > sequence, I am thinking Robert's father was a George. Their second child > Nancy was named after the mother's mother - Nancy Milburne - according > to the information I have. > > I also have reason to believe they spent some time in Ireland before > coming to Canada in about 1842. > > Idea? Suggestions? Information? > > Lloyd Crooks > Winnipeg, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: > 12/11/2007 9:19 PM > >

    11/15/2007 10:29:18
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Margaret Woodford
    3. Hi George, Have you considered the Robert Crook (in IGI)born 1805 to George Crook and Isabel Calder in Newbattle, Midlothian, as Robert's parents? It is not uncommon for records to omit or add the "s", as I have found in my own research. This couple had 3 other children all born Newbattle John Crook b. 1803 James Crook b. 1808 Jean Crooks b 1812 (note- includes the "s") Newbattle is only 40 miles from Lilliesleaf, so it is not impossible that Robert was working there and met Jean. Only a possibility, but perhaps worth pursuing, if these names carried on into Robert/Jean's family. Regards Margaret

    11/15/2007 03:45:33
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. frank
    3. Hi all Regret to be a contrarian, however my family were certainly not Highlanders (although I have seen references to Lanarkshire being considered a Highland county) however most followed the naming pattern religiously as did (from my research) most people in that area of Scotland) Frank Easton Still no snow Alberta Canada -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Judith Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 11:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' Hi Lloyd, What sort of record of the marriage do you have? If it was the IGI then try searching the OPR's on Scotland's People for the original document which may have more details. If you dont want to use a credit card on line , you may also like to go to your local LDS Family History Centre and order in the film for Lilliesleaf if it is available. Doing it that way you may be able to get births, deaths and marriages for that area and could check out any other Crooks in the area. Did they have a second daughter? If the naming pattern was followed, then the eldest son and the second daughter would carry the names of Robert's parents. Mind you not all of Scotland followed the naming pattern which was a highland custom. The lowlands of Scotland mostly didn't. If there were families in the lowlands who did follow the naming pattern it was pretty safe to say they had originated in the highlands. Have you got the death certificate for Robert? Not sure if Canada includes names of parents on death certs but it is a possibility. It would or should give you his age which again may help to narrow down his date of birth and parents. If you know where he died you may also try obituaries in the local papers. Also you might try naturalisation papers. Regards Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd Crooks" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:51 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' >I have a record of a Robert Crooks and Jane (Jean) Turnbull marriage on > March 22, 1832 in Lilliesleaf, Scotland. Her family is well documented, > but I have no record of his ancestory. Their oldest son was named > George, and from what I know of the Scottish traditional naming > sequence, I am thinking Robert's father was a George. Their second child > Nancy was named after the mother's mother - Nancy Milburne - according > to the information I have. > > I also have reason to believe they spent some time in Ireland before > coming to Canada in about 1842. > > Idea? Suggestions? Information? > > Lloyd Crooks > Winnipeg, Canada > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: > 12/11/2007 9:19 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/15/2007 02:52:27
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Crooks in MLN
    2. hiflyte
    3. Follow up regarding Crooks in MLN From the FHC files at your local FHC. They have other data on this name but not the Crooks/Water combination and none from Lilliesleaf. I have no additional data on this surname Bob Cdn. -------------------------------------------- CROOK William Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 7 Oct 1790 Christening Date: 24 Oct 1790 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: James CROOK Mother: Elizabeth ORMISTON Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOK John Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Oct 1803 Birthplace: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: George CROOK Mother: Isabel CALDER Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOK Robert Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Mar 1805 Birthplace: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: George CROOK Mother: Isabel CALDER Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOK James Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 1 Feb 1808 Christening Date: 8 Feb 1808 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: George CROOK Mother: Isabel CALDER Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOKS Jean Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 25 Dec 1811 Christening Date: 6 Feb 1812 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: George CROOKS Mother: Isabel CALDER Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOKS Jean Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 5 May 1818 Christening Date: 24 May 1818 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: William CROOKS Mother: Agnes AITCHISON Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOKS Janet Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 27 Sep 1819 Christening Date: 24 Oct 1819 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: William CROOKS Mother: Agnes AITCHISON Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 CROOKS Marion Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 12 Dec 1821 Christening Date: 30 Dec 1821 Recorded in: Newbattle Midlothian Scotland Father: George CROOKS Mother: Janet MURDOCH Source: FHL Film 1067786 Dates: 1770 - 1855 ========================= Lloyd Crooks wrote: > I have a record of a Robert Crooks and Jane (Jean) Turnbull marriage on > March 22, 1832 in Lilliesleaf, Scotland. =============================================

    11/15/2007 01:29:59
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Gordon Crooks
    3. George: I saw the various msgs regarding the Crooks, while I can't help you on your line, I can give you the history and origins of this family going back to 1138 A.D. if desired. For those reading this I am a Plantation family, we were in N.I. in the early 1600,s and were in Antrim County about 1735 we came to America and settled on Lord Penn's lands in Pennsylvania. Along with us came other related families Dunwoodie, Crunkleton, Moorehead, Beatty, Wallace, McClure, and McCrea and all settled next to each other, which they had also done in Antrim. Gordon Crooks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Woodford" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' > Hi George, > > Have you considered the Robert Crook (in IGI)born 1805 to George Crook and > Isabel Calder in Newbattle, Midlothian, as Robert's parents? It is not > uncommon for records to omit or add the "s", as I have found in my own > research. This couple had 3 other children all born Newbattle > > John Crook b. 1803 > James Crook b. 1808 > Jean Crooks b 1812 (note- includes the "s") > > Newbattle is only 40 miles from Lilliesleaf, so it is not impossible that > Robert was working there and met Jean. > > Only a possibility, but perhaps worth pursuing, if these names carried on > into Robert/Jean's family. > > Regards > > Margaret > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.31/1130 - Release Date: > 11/14/2007 9:27 AM >

    11/15/2007 12:38:05
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Lloyd Crooks
    3. Hi Judith; You have asked me a lot of questions which I must digest and analyse! I think the marriage record was from the IGI. But, the record of death of Robert was from a local newspaper in Ontario, Canada, and it didn't mention his parents. In the meantime, give me a couple of days. I appreciate your reply. Lloyd Crooks Judith wrote: >Hi Lloyd, > >What sort of record of the marriage do you have? If >it was the IGI then try searching the OPR's on Scotland's >People for the original document which may have more >details. If you dont want to use a credit card on line , >you may also like to go to your local LDS Family >History Centre and order in the film for Lilliesleaf if it >is available. Doing it that way you may be able to >get births, deaths and marriages for that area and >could check out any other Crooks in the area. > >Did they have a second daughter? If the naming pattern was >followed, then the eldest son and the second daughter would >carry the names of Robert's parents. Mind you not all of >Scotland followed the naming pattern which was a >highland custom. The lowlands of Scotland mostly didn't. > If there were families in the lowlands who did follow the >naming pattern it was pretty safe to say they had originated >in the highlands. > >Have you got the death certificate for Robert? Not sure >if Canada includes names of parents on death certs but it is >a possibility. It would or should give you his age which again >may help to narrow down his date of birth and parents. >If you know where he died you may also try obituaries in >the local papers. > >Also you might try naturalisation papers. > >Regards >Judith > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lloyd Crooks" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:51 PM >Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks' > > > > >>I have a record of a Robert Crooks and Jane (Jean) Turnbull marriage on >>March 22, 1832 in Lilliesleaf, Scotland. Her family is well documented, >>but I have no record of his ancestory. Their oldest son was named >>George, and from what I know of the Scottish traditional naming >>sequence, I am thinking Robert's father was a George. Their second child >>Nancy was named after the mother's mother - Nancy Milburne - according >>to the information I have. >> >>I also have reason to believe they spent some time in Ireland before >>coming to Canada in about 1842. >> >>Idea? Suggestions? Information? >> >>Lloyd Crooks >>Winnipeg, Canada >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.30/1127 - Release Date: >>12/11/2007 9:19 PM >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

    11/14/2007 06:14:55
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] Looking for Crooks'
    2. Lloyd Crooks
    3. I have a record of a Robert Crooks and Jane (Jean) Turnbull marriage on March 22, 1832 in Lilliesleaf, Scotland. Her family is well documented, but I have no record of his ancestory. Their oldest son was named George, and from what I know of the Scottish traditional naming sequence, I am thinking Robert's father was a George. Their second child Nancy was named after the mother's mother - Nancy Milburne - according to the information I have. I also have reason to believe they spent some time in Ireland before coming to Canada in about 1842. Idea? Suggestions? Information? Lloyd Crooks Winnipeg, Canada

    11/14/2007 05:21:58
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] re Letter from the past
    2. Robert Gibson
    3. To Lorraine and Toni who responded to my posting I have photographed the letter and can be contacted off line to get a look at it. This offer is also open to any other Lister. Regards Robert

    11/14/2007 03:10:48
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Interests - MCINTOSH - DAVIDSON - DUNCAN
    2. Kevin and Jan Newcombe
    3. Toni I know only a little. Gardner McIntosh married Margaret Walkingshaw c1786 at Newbattle, Midlothian. Margaret born 22 July 1767 at Newattle. Her parents were Gideon Walkingshaw and Margaret Taylor. Children:- Gideon, born 10 April 1787, Newbattle Janet, born 9 April 1789, Newbattle Martha, born 22 October 1792, Newbattle Joseph, born July 1797 (married Margaret Gordon) Sarah, born 22 February 1801. A very helpful woman in Canada has been able to give me a some information on the Walkingshaws and she belongs to the Pryde/Pride name geneaology group online who are connected to the Walkingshaws but she has never been able to find the parentage of my Gardner McIntosh the soldier unfortunately, as neither can I. Anyway, you may know Elaine already, so I'll not go on just now. If you should want to contact her I'll contact her to see if she would mind me passing on her email address. Yours Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trena" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Interests - MCINTOSH - DAVIDSON - DUNCAN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin and Jan Newcombe" > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:57 PM > Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Interests > > >> McINTOSH, DAVIDSON, DUNCAN in areas - Newbattle, Cockpen, Pathhead, >> Eldin, >> Dalkeith (areas where they lived or worked). >> >> Particular interest in John DAVIDSON. He married Martha McIntosh. >> >> Old Parochial Registers, Church of Scotland, Edinburgh has recorded - >> John >> DAVIDSON, Miner, High Church Parish and Martha McIntosh, Parish of >> Dalkeith, daughter of the deceased McIntosh, soldier. > > Jan ..... Do you have a time frame? Anything further on the MCINTOSHes > after this date? Martha's siblings? > > Toni ~ Ontario > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/13/2007 01:53:38
    1. [MIDLOTHIAN] Interests
    2. Kevin and Jan Newcombe
    3. Reposting my interests: McINTOSH, DAVIDSON, DUNCAN in areas - Newbattle, Cockpen, Pathhead, Eldin, Dalkeith (areas where they lived or worked). Particular interest in John DAVIDSON. He married Martha McIntosh. Old Parochial Registers, Church of Scotland, Edinburgh has recorded - John DAVIDSON, Miner, High Church Parish and Martha McIntosh, Parish of Dalkeith, daughter of the deceased McIntosh, soldier. Thank you - Jan

    11/12/2007 03:57:05
    1. Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Extra certificates
    2. Tom and Rhona
    3. Hi Mary Here are the details 1897 Deaths Bathgate Agnes Alexander FORREST married to John FORREST grocer 19 June 10h am 41 Cochrane Street Bathgate agec 49 Parents Robert MARTIN contractor dec and Marion ALEXANDER dec Cause of Death Vascular disease of the Heart cet by John Doig inf John Forrest widower We are related to Agnes FORREST born 20 April 1812 Whitburn to William FORREST and Helen EDMONSTONE Agnes FORREST born 28 February 1834 died 31 December 1911 parents Thomas FORREST and Agnes WADDELL but can't find a connection with Agnes Alexander FORREST Take Care Rhona ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Swayne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 6:48 AM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Extra certificates > :Hello Rhona > > I would be interested indetails of the death of Agnes Forrest in 1897 > > > Many thanks > > Mary > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/12/2007 01:54:45