My great grandfather James Sinclair was widowed in 1870 and he remarried in 1873 to Helen Reid in Edinburgh. According to their daughter Jane's marriage certificate, Helen was still alive in 1901. Her birth year was approx. 1838 so she would be about 63 then. Her father was Daniel Reid of Edinburgh. I have searched for Helen's death and so far have been totally unsuccessful. Is there anyone on the list from Daniel Reid's family please? Doreen Sinclair Baxter

Searching for any information I can get for JOHN McDONALD born at Forrester's Wynd, Edinburgh on September 26,1860. He is with his parents Thomas and Anne McDONALD, his siblings Bridget, Thomas, Elizabeth, boarders Margaret Maguire, Mary Martin and her daughter Margaret on the 1861 Census for 98 Cowgate, Forrester's Wynd, Edinburgh. After this I have been unable to find any information in regards to where or what happened to him. His parents originated from Roscommom, Ireland. Thank you, John

Have you seen these photos of Candlemaker's Row? The Edinburgh Streets site is very useful! http://www.streetsofedinburgh.co.uk/Candlemaker%20Row.htm Ann

Budd, number 88 is on the west side of Candlemaker Row which means it is in New Greyfriars Parish; the east side of Candlemaker Row is in Old Greyfriars Parish.? In both cases they will come under the Edinburgh City Parish as far as pre 1855 Register of Births Deaths and marriages are concerned (sometimes in those registers these two?parish name are shortened to 'OGP' or NGP') A good place to look for detailed maps is the National Library of Scotland Digital maps collection. http://www.nls.uk/maps/index.html I've got a very small map on my own website but not detailed enough to see individual streets. http://www.hoodfamily.info/misc/miscedinmaplarge.html Albert ________________________________________________________________________ AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.aol.co.uk/homepage/ now.

Budd I would have thought that Candlemaker Row would be in the parish of St Giles or failing that St Cuthbert. I see that you are interested in No. 88 - what is you connection to it? My great grandfather's business was at No. 90, however, that was some 40 years after the date you are interested in. Regards David

Budd, The following may help http://www.edinburgh-royalmile.com/off-royalmile/candlemaker-row.html Anne Edinburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Budd" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 11:38 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] 88 Candlemaker Row > > Can anyone tell me in what parish 88 Candlemaker Row was in about 1850 ? > > or > > Where I could find this information on the net ? > > Budd > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: > 19/01/2008 18:37 >

Hello Bob, Yes already had these but thank you anyway. Kind Regards Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "hiflyte" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] PETER PAXTON > No connection to the names. > Found these entries > > Bob > Cdn > --------------------------------- > > PAXTON > Mary > Ann > Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 26 Apr 1820 > Christening Date: 28 May 1820 > Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland > Father: James PAXTON > Mother: Margaret CURRIE > Source: FHL Film 1067861 Dates: 1820 - 1822 > > PAXTON > Agnes > Christening > Gender: Female > Birth Date: 5 Aug 1822 > Christening Date: 8 Sep 1822 > Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland > Father: James PAXTON > Mother: Margaret CURRIE > Source: FHL Film 1067861 > Dates: 1820 - 1822 > > PAXTON > Peter > Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 25 Apr 1825 > Christening Date: 1 May 1825 > Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland > Father: James PAXTON > Mother: Margaret CURRIE > Source: FHL Film 1067861 > Dates: 1750 - 1826 > > PAXTON > James > Ferdinand > Douglas > Christening > Gender: Male > Birth Date: 24 Dec 1830 > Christening Date: 15 Jan 1831 > Recorded in: Inveresk Midlothian Scotland > Father: James PAXTON > Mother: Margaret CURRIE > Source: FHL Film 103115 + > Dates: 1831 - 1854 > ============================================================= > pam.groves1 wrote: >> ...Peter Paxton born 25 Apr 1825 inTranent, East Lothian, Scotland. He >> was the >> son of James Paxton and Margaret Currie. Although he was born in Tranent >> they moved to Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland by 1827. > ======================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me in what parish 88 Candlemaker Row was in about 1850 ? or Where I could find this information on the net ? Budd

Hello List, Are there any Descendents of Peter Paxton and Patience Doyle on this list Please. Peter Paxton born 25 Apr 1825 inTranent, East Lothian, Scotland. He was the son of James Paxton and Margaret Currie. Although he was born in Tranent they moved to Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland by 1827. Peter Paxton Married Patience Doyle in 1855 in Salford, England. These were their Childrens names. Margaret Ann Paxton born 1856 in Salford, Greater Manchester, England. Randolph Paxton born 1858 in Boston, Lancashire, England, UK Mary Paxton born 1862 in Old Brompton, Kent, England. Annie Paxton born 1864 in England. Joseph Paxton born 8, March 1865 in Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland. William Stockwell Paxton born 3 December 1866 in Musselburgh, Peter Campbell Paxton born 12 July 1870 in Edinburgh. Thank you in advance for any information I might receive. Kind Regards Pamela J Groves nee PAXTON

You might have hit on something here as in the 1881 census my Gt Grandfather gives his place of birth as Falkirk. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 20 January 2008 17:21 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Skinner Hi Eleanor, I found the following on Ancestry, please bear in mind that some of Ancestry's transcriptions are fairly awful, but it may give you a lead. As far as I know there isn't a Dalkeith in Perthshire. Name: George Skinner Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Gender: Male Where born: Dalkeith, Perthshire Registration Number: 479/1 Registration district: Falkirk Burgh Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh County: Stirlingshire Address: Poor's House Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Page: 44 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 222 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1871_83 Neither Christian/Christina nor Alexander seem to be in the same location. Steve > I am searching for George Skinner on the 1871 census. He was born in > Dalkeith September 1861 so would be nine years old. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 20/01/2008 14:15

Hi Eleanor, I found the following on Ancestry, please bear in mind that some of Ancestry's transcriptions are fairly awful, but it may give you a lead. As far as I know there isn't a Dalkeith in Perthshire. Name: George Skinner Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Gender: Male Where born: Dalkeith, Perthshire Registration Number: 479/1 Registration district: Falkirk Burgh Civil Parish: Falkirk Burgh County: Stirlingshire Address: Poor's House Occupation: Scholar ED: 5 Page: 44 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 222 Line: 23 Roll: CSSCT1871_83 Neither Christian/Christina nor Alexander seem to be in the same location. Steve > I am searching for George Skinner on the 1871 census. He was born in > Dalkeith September 1861 so would be nine years old.

Hi Eleanor, I see a George SKINNER aged 8 in a poorhouse in Falkirk. in 1871. The record (and I am only looking at the index on Ancestry.com) says he was born in Dalkeith, Perthshire. Is this a possibility? Was his brother alive at that time? Have you found either of his parents? .Have you found him in 1891? Best Wishes, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Robertson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: [MIDLOTHIAN] Skinner >I am searching for George Skinner on the 1871 census. He was born in > Dalkeith September 1861 so would be nine years old. Only have a birth > certificate then in 1881 census I find him in Newcraighall giving the > wrong > age and birthplace. > > > > His parents were not married so possible that not both parents would show > on > census. He also had a younger brother James born Glasgow October 1863 but > I > have never been able to find anything for him but a birth certificate. > > > > Parents of George & James Skinner are Alexander Skinner a shoemaker and > Christina or Christian Taylor born Newbattle or Falkirk. > > > > I would be glad of any help or suggestions as I am at a complete dead end. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am searching for George Skinner on the 1871 census. He was born in Dalkeith September 1861 so would be nine years old. Only have a birth certificate then in 1881 census I find him in Newcraighall giving the wrong age and birthplace. His parents were not married so possible that not both parents would show on census. He also had a younger brother James born Glasgow October 1863 but I have never been able to find anything for him but a birth certificate. Parents of George & James Skinner are Alexander Skinner a shoemaker and Christina or Christian Taylor born Newbattle or Falkirk. I would be glad of any help or suggestions as I am at a complete dead end.

Many thanks Steve: The one over in Mishnish is half-brother of the one in Midlothian!! Well, the ages and names fit, and the surname is not exactly common. Thank you for the 1891 entry for Andrew - I didn't spot that when trawling the other evening and tying myself in proverbial knots. Will follow it up - seems his incarceration was long-term and probably not industrial illness! Jacqui ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] KURTZ The 1891 Census on Ancestry offers the following two KURTZ entries. I can't find any entries other than the one you already have. Name: Harold Kurtz Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 549 Registration district: Tobermory Civil Parish: Kilninian and Kilmore County: Argyll Address: Shore St Mishnish Royal Hotel 1 Occupation: Living on Private Means ED: 1 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 13 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_173 ------------------------------------------------- And Name: Andrew Kurtz Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Glenvargie, Skye Registration Number: 685A/1 Registration district: St George Landward Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: Craighouse Occupation: Private Means ED: 2 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1891_333 Despite the place of birth given I suspect this has to be your Andrew. It may be worth checking this on Scotlands People (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/) Steve ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 19/01/2008 18:37

No connection to the names. Found these entries Bob Cdn --------------------------------- PAXTON Mary Ann Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 26 Apr 1820 Christening Date: 28 May 1820 Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland Father: James PAXTON Mother: Margaret CURRIE Source: FHL Film 1067861 Dates: 1820 - 1822 PAXTON Agnes Christening Gender: Female Birth Date: 5 Aug 1822 Christening Date: 8 Sep 1822 Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland Father: James PAXTON Mother: Margaret CURRIE Source: FHL Film 1067861 Dates: 1820 - 1822 PAXTON Peter Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Apr 1825 Christening Date: 1 May 1825 Recorded in: Tranent East Lothian Scotland Father: James PAXTON Mother: Margaret CURRIE Source: FHL Film 1067861 Dates: 1750 - 1826 PAXTON James Ferdinand Douglas Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 24 Dec 1830 Christening Date: 15 Jan 1831 Recorded in: Inveresk Midlothian Scotland Father: James PAXTON Mother: Margaret CURRIE Source: FHL Film 103115 + Dates: 1831 - 1854 ============================================================= pam.groves1 wrote: > ...Peter Paxton born 25 Apr 1825 inTranent, East Lothian, Scotland. He > was the > son of James Paxton and Margaret Currie. Although he was born in Tranent > they moved to Musselburgh, Inveresk, Midlothian, Scotland by 1827. =======================================================

The 1891 Census on Ancestry offers the following two KURTZ entries. I can't find any entries other than the one you already have. Name: Harold Kurtz Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: England Registration Number: 549 Registration district: Tobermory Civil Parish: Kilninian and Kilmore County: Argyll Address: Shore St Mishnish Royal Hotel 1 Occupation: Living on Private Means ED: 1 Page: 3 Household schedule number: 13 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_173 ------------------------------------------------- And Name: Andrew Kurtz Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Relationship: Patient Gender: Male Where born: Glenvargie, Skye Registration Number: 685A/1 Registration district: St George Landward Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: Craighouse Occupation: Private Means ED: 2 Page: 12 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 1 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1891_333 Despite the place of birth given I suspect this has to be your Andrew. It may be worth checking this on Scotlands People (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/) Steve

Eleanor, These entries could be a connection, no wife listed---- Bob Cdn ------------------ SKINNER Isabella Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 7 May 1860 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 SKINNER David Wishart Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 3 Mar 1861 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 SKINNER Mary Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 1 Dec 1863 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 SKINNER George Wishart Christening Gender: Male Christening Date: 4 Jun 1865 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 SKINNER Janet Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 5 Apr 1868 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 SKINNER Margaret Dickson Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 4 Jun 1871 Recorded in: Dalkeith Midlothian Scotland Collection: Kings Park United Presbyterian Church; Free Church Father: George W. Skinner Source: FHL Film 889477 Dates: 1843 - 1906 ====================================== Eleanor Robertson wrote:<SNIP>...I am searching for George Skinner on the 1871 census. He was born in Dalkeith September 1861 so would be nine years old. Only have a birth certificate then in 1881 census I find him in Newcraighall giving the wrong age and birthplace.... =======================================

Hello List I am new to Midlothian research, being in "middle England". Can anyone please offer me any further sightings of the following chap who dangles in my extended tree. This is my note from 1881 Scottish transcript of census: 1881 There is an England-born, 41 year old Andrew KURTZ in St George's Hospital, Midlothian - inmate. 685/1 Registration district: St George Civil Parish: St George County: Midlothian ED: 4 Page: 18 Household schedule number: 78a. This fits "my" Andrew on age, and I can't find him anywhere else. I wonder what brought him to Midlothian: the family were manufacturing chemists and tar distillers in S Lancashire & N Cheshire. Did he come north for the shale-oil industry? Or was he "sent away" to an institution? Any sightings or information about Andrew, or any other KURTZ, in the area would be greatly appreciated. Andrew's generation are mostly born Liverpool, some in Manchester area. Jacqui

On 18/01/2008, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > 1881 census > > Family found, but no James the father. > Bridget and her sons are found living with a sister of Bridget's. > Bridget is listed as married, the sister is listed as widowed, which > was her true state in 1881. There is no sign of James Donnelly in > the 1881 that I can prove, but since Bridget is not listed as > widowed, I'm still searching for him. I know he was deceased by the > 1884 marriage of his son James, but I can't find a death certificate > for him anywhere either. > > Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland > Michael Donelly, son, 22, coal miner, Whitburn > Bridget, head, married, 39, housekeeper, Ireland > James, son, 19, coal miner, Linlithgow > John McLeish, son, 4, West Calder > Mary McLeish, wid, 34, Ireland > James McLeish, son, 9, Airdrie, Lanark > Unfortunately sometimes the marital status was not correct. If a wife had been deserted by a husband, she might sometimes claim to be married and other times to be widowed. If the son claims his father was deceased when he married, it may or may not be true - the father may simply have disappeared, possibly back to Ireland, and might still be living. I have one family where I searched in vain for the wife's death, since the husband was listed as a widower at his death, until I found her death some thirteen years later. In the 1881 census he was listed as widowed and she was listed as married, but living on her own several counties away Catherine

Good observations, Catherine, - thank you, I'll keep that in mind as I search on. Maybe I'll try looking for a death cert after 1884 and see if the real James Donnelly surfaces where I've never looked before! Brigid On Jan 19, 2008, at 5:39 AM, Catherine Fitchett wrote: > > On 18/01/2008, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> >> 1881 census >> >> Family found, but no James the father. >> Bridget and her sons are found living with a sister of Bridget's. >> Bridget is listed as married, the sister is listed as widowed, which >> was her true state in 1881. There is no sign of James Donnelly in >> the 1881 that I can prove, but since Bridget is not listed as >> widowed, I'm still searching for him. I know he was deceased by the >> 1884 marriage of his son James, but I can't find a death certificate >> for him anywhere either. >> >> Carnwath, Lanark, Scotland >> Michael Donelly, son, 22, coal miner, Whitburn >> Bridget, head, married, 39, housekeeper, Ireland >> James, son, 19, coal miner, Linlithgow >> John McLeish, son, 4, West Calder >> Mary McLeish, wid, 34, Ireland >> James McLeish, son, 9, Airdrie, Lanark >> > > Unfortunately sometimes the marital status was not correct. If a wife > had been deserted by a husband, she might sometimes claim to be > married and other times to be widowed. If the son claims his father > was deceased when he married, it may or may not be true - the father > may simply have disappeared, possibly back to Ireland, and might > still be living. > > I have one family where I searched in vain for the wife's death, > since the husband was listed as a widower at his death, until I found > her death some thirteen years later. In the 1881 census he was listed > as widowed and she was listed as married, but living on her own > several counties away > > Catherine > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDLOTHIAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message