I have tried searching too, and got apparents results over 32 pages, and then it never get past the loading stage........and then it times out. Margaret in Australia On 7/2/08 6:58 AM, "Janet Miller" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Catherine > Re the On line catalogue > The number of times I have tried both your options for search you > suggested I just can't count .It never gets past saying there are 58 > Ketchen records over two pages but they never load. > Is this a common problem? or just because I live in New Zealand. > Don't think I will be lucky enough to have another trip back to do the > research, but found them very helpful. > Cheers > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ella, At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, in the free search on SP you should be able to narrow it down to the exact year. Best wishes, Sheena Ireland -----Original Message----- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:22:33 +1100 From: "Ella Ross" <[email protected]> In the free search in Scotlandspeople I found ONE Alexander Ketchin born 1879-1881 in Edinburgh.

Hi Catherine Re the On line catalogue The number of times I have tried both your options for search you suggested I just can't count .It never gets past saying there are 58 Ketchen records over two pages but they never load. Is this a common problem? or just because I live in New Zealand. Don't think I will be lucky enough to have another trip back to do the research, but found them very helpful. Cheers Janet

Theres a new search facility being introduced in March M&M <[email protected]> wrote: I have tried searching too, and got apparents results over 32 pages, and then it never get past the loading stage........and then it times out. Margaret in Australia On 7/2/08 6:58 AM, "Janet Miller" wrote: > Hi Catherine > Re the On line catalogue > The number of times I have tried both your options for search you > suggested I just can't count .It never gets past saying there are 58 > Ketchen records over two pages but they never load. > Is this a common problem? or just because I live in New Zealand. > Don't think I will be lucky enough to have another trip back to do the > research, but found them very helpful. > Cheers > Janet > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! &#45; a smarter inbox.

As I recall neither digital camera or scanners were permitted. M&M <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone know if you can use a digital camera? Margaret On 7/2/08 9:55 AM, "Fionnghal" wrote: > I don;t recall there being any mention of how many > pages were involved. The just quoted a total price > incl. post. i do recall being surprised at the > number i found when i did go. > > You have to take a chance or find someone to look at > them for you. till then, you'll not know what pages > you'd want. Once i saw what was there i wanted the > lot, but mine was a criminal case with precognition > papers. Yours may not be quite the same sort. Try > writing to them and see. I've always found them very > helpful. I doubt though if they'd be prepared to > count pages and make a decision on which would be the > most desirable to have. > > Tricky one! > le durachd > fionnghal > >> >> Now I have to figure out how (or if) to order the >> full records. >> >> Do they tell you in advance how many pages? > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it > now. > http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Support the World Aids Awareness campaign this month with Yahoo! for Good

Hi fellow researchers, My problem... the 1881 census for 73 Pleasance. Edinburgh St Cuthberts lists my ancestor Alexander Ketchin aged 32(should be 39) Bachelor. his wife Mary Ann Ketchin aged 43. Marriage 1874, says she was Mary Ann Sutherland once married to Roberts Owens., Widow. John Ovens age 21 and (should be Owens) ALEXANDER KETCHIN Aged 1 grandson born Carrington. I have been on Scotlands People, and Family Search and can find no Alexander Ketchin (Kitchin, Kitchen) born 1880. 1881. I can find no children to Alexander which would have had to have been born before his marriage in 1874, but then I do not have a wifes name. Scotland's People can get a bit expensive when you live in New Zealand and are searching without great direction. Any suggestions most welcome Cheers Janet

it used to be excellent, but i don;t think they appreciated how much traffic there would be. Also, i suspect, the more material they up load onto it, the slower it gets. that's the feeling i've had over the last couple of years. le durachd fionnghal > I have tried searching too, and got apparents > results over 32 pages, and > then it never get past the loading stage........and > then it times out. __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

last time i spoke to them, spring last year, you couldn't; but they are planning making changes in that direction. How long it'll take, of course, is another matter. le durachd fionnghal > Does anyone know if you can use a digital camera? > Margaret __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

I don;t recall there being any mention of how many pages were involved. The just quoted a total price incl. post. i do recall being surprised at the number i found when i did go. You have to take a chance or find someone to look at them for you. till then, you'll not know what pages you'd want. Once i saw what was there i wanted the lot, but mine was a criminal case with precognition papers. Yours may not be quite the same sort. Try writing to them and see. I've always found them very helpful. I doubt though if they'd be prepared to count pages and make a decision on which would be the most desirable to have. Tricky one! le durachd fionnghal > > Now I have to figure out how (or if) to order the > full records. > > Do they tell you in advance how many pages? ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/

Hi I contacted NAS when I had access problems some months ago. Its apparently a known problem. The reply asked for the reference of the hit for which I wanted further detail however by the time I received the reply (a day or later) I had actually managed to access it through sheer perseverance accompanied by a lot of hair pulling. I may be wrong but I dont think NAS will mail anything to you. You may have to contact a local researcher to do it for you. I think I recall seeing something on the website about it. The good news is I was told last night by NAS that there will be a new search facility in April which will be very much of an improvement on the current one. Jeanette Janet Miller <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Catherine Re the On line catalogue The number of times I have tried both your options for search you suggested I just can't count .It never gets past saying there are 58 Ketchen records over two pages but they never load. Is this a common problem? or just because I live in New Zealand. Don't think I will be lucky enough to have another trip back to do the research, but found them very helpful. Cheers Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Sent from Yahoo! &#45; a smarter inbox.

For those who can't get to Scotland, although the National archives won't do research for you, they will respond to specific queries, so you can order records if you find something of interest on their catalogue. However, you may get more than you bargained for - the bankruptcy file on my gtgrandfather turned out to be 165 pages in a bound volume, they had to film it and print from the film at as I recall a pound a page! A rather pricey exercise, and one I couldn't afford now. Of course if you are able to get there in person then presumably you can just select the pages of interest as the file turned out to be rather repetitious in places - frequent lists of creditors much the same as earlier lists - but the information I got from the file was invaluable in filling out the background to the story of his emigration My dream would be to spend a year in Scotland, I'm sure I could fill the time up very quickly searching all the records in depth Catherine On 6/02/2008, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Many thanks, Catherine > Will try that, and I am going to Scotland in November, so hopefully > I might > see whatever original record there is to find then. > Doing my 'homework' now, so at least I know where to go!!!!! > Thank you for your help > Margaret > > On 5/2/08 5:15 PM, "Catherine Fitchett" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I found the bankruptcy records of my greatgrandfather (though >> fortunately he was not imprisoned) by searching in the online public >> access catalogue of the national Archives of Scotland. >> Not all their collections are indexed, but you may find something >> there. >> >> http://212.140.253.244/NAS/DServe.exe?dsqApp=Site20&dsqCmd=Index.tcl >> >> Or if that link doesn't work go to the main page at www.nas.gov.uk >>

Janet, I've also had trouble getting details. I only have 2 hits, and when I hit "details" I could never get anything to come up. I finally did get one, but still trying on the other. Now I have to figure out how (or if) to order the full records. Do they tell you in advance how many pages? Irene, in Michigan **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

I, too, accessed court papers on a forebear's misdeeds and i agree, to request a copy through NAS can be a very expensive business. If you can find the references for your particular documents in the NAS catalogue, I'd be tempted to pay a local researcher to go in and look up the required documents and arrange for copies - he/she could ask for them to be posted direct to you. It might even be possible to request that they be digitised rather than printed - a cd bearing lot less postage than a bundle of papers. If i remember correctly, you can get them printed there and then if it is under 20 pages, 20-40 pages they send them to the print room which means picking them up a few days later, over 40 is an out-of-house job and comes by post. Mine was a small bundle of 60+ pages within a bound box. They'd insisted they'd have to film the lot - £250 incl. post, they reckoned. I was fortunate as I live in Scotland and decided I could afford a short holiday there for not much more than they were asking plus get the benefit of getting a lot more research done at the same time. my papers cost c.£35 and were well worth the money. They were a mine of info, however, i've since discovered there are even more on the case i can access - next time I'm in Edinburgh. :-) hope that is of help le durachd fionnghal > For those who can't get to Scotland, > although the National archives won't do research for > you, they will respond to specific queries, so you can order records if you find something of interest on their catalogue. > However, you may get more than you bargained for - > the bankruptcy > file on my gtgrandfather turned out to be 165 pages > in a bound volume, they had to film it and print from the film at as I recall a pound a page! A rather pricey exercise, and one I __________________________________________________________ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com

Many thanks, Catherine Will try that, and I am going to Scotland in November, so hopefully I might see whatever original record there is to find then. Doing my 'homework' now, so at least I know where to go!!!!! Thank you for your help Margaret On 5/2/08 5:15 PM, "Catherine Fitchett" <[email protected]> wrote: > I found the bankruptcy records of my greatgrandfather (though > fortunately he was not imprisoned) by searching in the online public > access catalogue of the national Archives of Scotland. > Not all their collections are indexed, but you may find something there. > > http://212.140.253.244/NAS/DServe.exe?dsqApp=Site20&dsqCmd=Index.tcl > > Or if that link doesn't work go to the main page at www.nas.gov.uk > > and click on the link for catalogues and indexes on the right hand > side, then look for the link to the Online Public Access Ctalogue > > Catherine > > > On 2/02/2008, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > >> >> Has anyone any knowledge about finding further information >> regarding a man >> in the Prison of Edinburgh for debt. >> The time was July 1851 in Edinburgh. >> >> He applied for Cessio Bonorum, - to see whether his creditors would >> accept >> payment >> in another form. >> Would there be any records of this meeting with creditors, which >> was to be >> in the >> Sherriff-Clerks Office, County Buildings, Lawnmarket. >> >> Would there be any prison records? Any ideas on where I might look? >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Marg, How are you, I hope that all is well? Take care, Philip

I found the bankruptcy records of my greatgrandfather (though fortunately he was not imprisoned) by searching in the online public access catalogue of the national Archives of Scotland. Not all their collections are indexed, but you may find something there. http://212.140.253.244/NAS/DServe.exe?dsqApp=Site20&dsqCmd=Index.tcl Or if that link doesn't work go to the main page at www.nas.gov.uk and click on the link for catalogues and indexes on the right hand side, then look for the link to the Online Public Access Ctalogue Catherine On 2/02/2008, at 9:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Has anyone any knowledge about finding further information > regarding a man > in the Prison of Edinburgh for debt. > The time was July 1851 in Edinburgh. > > He applied for Cessio Bonorum, - to see whether his creditors would > accept > payment > in another form. > Would there be any records of this meeting with creditors, which > was to be > in the > Sherriff-Clerks Office, County Buildings, Lawnmarket. > > Would there be any prison records? Any ideas on where I might look? >

MATHISON, Thomas Bir 1853 Scot Midl Edinbu> Fa: Thomas MATHISON> Mo: Elizabeth STODDART Thank you I have already ruled this one out on account that Alexander was living with Elizabeth his mother and his stepfather Thomas Barley in Bells Wynd in Edinburgh in 1861 and was aged 17. The Thomas and Elizabeth Mathison mentioned above stayed together until their deaths in the late 1890s (I have their wills) Also Alexander's wedding registry entry (1865 aged 21) although not easy to read shows Elizabeth's maiden name as ending in 'ing' Thanks for you help If anyone else could help this additional information may be useful > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 15:38:34 -0700> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [MIDLOTHIAN] Alexander Mathison b1844 Edinburgh> > A couple of possibilities, one family looks promising.> > There are others to see at your local FHC> > Bob> Cdn.> --------------------------------> MATHEWSON, Alexander Christening> Gender: Male> Birth Date: 27 Jan 1832 > Christening Date: 29 Mar 1832 Recorded in: Greenlaw, > Berwickshire, Scotland> Father: John MATHEWSON> Mother: Elizabeth COCKBURN> Source: FHL Film 1067900 Dates: 1820 - 1854> ----------------------------------> MATTHESON, Alexander Christening> Gender: Male> Birth Date: 26 Feb 1842 > Christening Date: 10 May 1842 Recorded in: Kirkliston, West > Lothian, Scotland> Father: Joseph MATTHESON> Mother: Eliza LAURIE> Source: FHL Film 1066630 Dates: 1692 - 1855> --------------------------------------> MATHESON, Alexander Christening> Gender: Male> Birth Date: 31 Aug 1845 Birthplace: Edinburgh Parish, > Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland> Recorded in: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland> Father: Thomas MATHESON> Mother: Elizabeth STODDART> Source: FHL Film 1066692 Dates: 1809 - 1855> ----------------------------------> MATHESON, Alexander Bir 1845 Scot Midl Edinbu> Fa: Thomas MATHESON> Mo: Elizabeth STODDART> MATHESON, Anne Bir 1847 Scot Midl Edinbu> Fa: Thomas MATHESON> Mo: Elizabeth STODDART> MATHISON, John Bir 1849 Scot Midl Edinbu> Fa: Thomas MATHISON> Mo: Elizabeth STODDART> MATHISON, Thomas Bir 1853 Scot Midl Edinbu> Fa: Thomas MATHISON> Mo: Elizabeth STODDART> ===============================> Neil Mathieson wrote:> > Alexander married Jane Baird in 1865> > His mother was Elizabeth but who was his father Thomas or James (certificates unclear)? > > any help appreciated> ==================================> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml

Hi Neil, This entry in IGI may be yours, none for 1844 ALEXANDER MATHESON - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: 31 AUG 1845 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Father THOMAS MATHESON Mother: ELIZABETH STODDART Cheers, Margaret

Alexander married Jane Baird in 1865 His mother was Elizabeth but who was his father Thomas or James (certificates unclear)? any help appreciated thanks Neil _________________________________________________________________ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml

A couple of possibilities, one family looks promising. There are others to see at your local FHC Bob Cdn. -------------------------------- MATHEWSON, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Jan 1832 Christening Date: 29 Mar 1832 Recorded in: Greenlaw, Berwickshire, Scotland Father: John MATHEWSON Mother: Elizabeth COCKBURN Source: FHL Film 1067900 Dates: 1820 - 1854 ---------------------------------- MATTHESON, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 26 Feb 1842 Christening Date: 10 May 1842 Recorded in: Kirkliston, West Lothian, Scotland Father: Joseph MATTHESON Mother: Eliza LAURIE Source: FHL Film 1066630 Dates: 1692 - 1855 -------------------------------------- MATHESON, Alexander Christening Gender: Male Birth Date: 31 Aug 1845 Birthplace: Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Recorded in: Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland Father: Thomas MATHESON Mother: Elizabeth STODDART Source: FHL Film 1066692 Dates: 1809 - 1855 ---------------------------------- MATHESON, Alexander Bir 1845 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: Thomas MATHESON Mo: Elizabeth STODDART MATHESON, Anne Bir 1847 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: Thomas MATHESON Mo: Elizabeth STODDART MATHISON, John Bir 1849 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: Thomas MATHISON Mo: Elizabeth STODDART MATHISON, Thomas Bir 1853 Scot Midl Edinbu Fa: Thomas MATHISON Mo: Elizabeth STODDART =============================== Neil Mathieson wrote: > Alexander married Jane Baird in 1865 > His mother was Elizabeth but who was his father Thomas or James (certificates unclear)? > any help appreciated ==================================