HI Sheila, In the 1841 census for Clerkenwell Middlesex I found Ephraim Sparrow aged 25 occ. Vellum Binder not born in the county, i.e not born Middlesex, with wife Elizabeth aged 20 and daughter Mary Ann aged 5. Ages of all those aged 15yrs and over were rounded down to the nearest 5 years in this census and only whether or not a person had been born in the county in which they were currently residing was recorded, with answer Yes (Y) or No(N) instead of actual birth places. the ref. for this 1841 census entry is HO107 piece 650 Book/ED10 folio 60 page 24 Finsbury Clerkenwell, abode is Cold Bath Square. This ephraim's occupation agrees with that in the baptism of son Frederick Robert at Clerkenwell. In the 1851 census for St. Pancras Grays Inn Lane, Northumberland Terrace, Ephraim Sparrow is aged 36 married occ. Vellum Binder born Newcastle Upon Tyne Northumberland Elizabeth wife age 34 born Whitechapel MDX Mary Ann dau. aged 14 born City of London Ephraim son 8, b. Christ church Surrey, Elizabeth dau. 9 b.Clerkenwell MDX alfred son 7 b. Christ Church Surrey Emily dau. 5 b. ditto Frederick son 1 b. ditto Alice (?) dau. 2mths(?) b. ditto (she over on the next page). the ref. for this entry is HO107 piece 1495 folio 603 page 45 The 1861 census ref. RG9 piece 190 folio 74 page 31 Clerkenwell, shows Ephraim Sparrow head marr. age 46 occ (----) Book Binder b. Newcastle U. Tyne Elizabeth wife age 44 b whitechapel MDX Ephraim son 18 Chair Carver born Christ Church Surrey Alfred son 17 Errand Lad b. ditto Emily dau. 15 Staymaker b. ditto Frederick 11 scholar b ditto Alice dau. 10 scholar b. ditto Rebecca dau. 5 scholar b. Clerkenwell MDX FreeBMD shows a death in March Qtr. 1872 at Holborn volume 1b page 476 Ephraim Sparrow aged 57. This aged of 57 in 1872 puts Ephraim born about 1815 which agrees with his age in the 1851 census. Baptism St. Mary Lambeth Surrey 1837 Aug. 20th , born 4th Aug. 1837 Ephraim son Ephraim & Elizabeth Sparrow abode Pulteney Street fathers occ.Vellum Binder. Baptisms St. John the Evangelist Lambeth Surrey 1849 May 6th Emily born Sept. 1845, Frederick Robert b. 12th April 1849 & Alice b. 29th ? 1847 children of Ephraim & Elizabeth Sparrow abode Bear Lane fathers occ. Vellum Binder. I found the marriage in 1862 of Elizabeth Rose Sparrow to Frederick wm. Clowes where she gives her father as Ephraim Sparrow Book Binder. None of this ties Tryphenia Sparrow to Ephraim as his daughter but if you bought her birth certificate it should show her father's name on there. If it was Ephraim Sparrow then his name should appear on the certificate as he was still alive, it seems, in 1863 if the above death I found is the right one. I found on the IGI at the family search site the marriage of Ephraim sparrow to an Elizabeth Cooper in 1835 at St. Clement Danes Westminster. This might fit with the 1841 census entry I found where they had a daughter Mary Ann born about 1836 or so. A birth certificate of one of the children should show the mother's maiden name.. If she is shown as Elizabeth Sparrow formerly Cooper then you could try to find the marriage in the IGI and then get a copy from the parish register to see if it shows anything further. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Thanks Nivard. I know that Tryphenia had a brother Frederick who married the Patience Sparks who was the other witness on the certificate. He was a widower then and it is possible he is the Frederick Robert mentioned but I haven't been able to connect them. I think I will have to apply for both Tryphenia's and Frederick's birth certificates and see if they come up with the same parents. unless anybody can suggest a better way>>

Wow thank you so much....I knew some of this info but you've given me a bit I didn't know which will help...One thing I am noticing is that I am not reading the census details enough...I definitely need to be more observant and not skim over information I think is not relevant LOL cheers Sheila HI Sheila, In the 1841 census for Clerkenwell Middlesex I found etc Regards Jenny DeAngelis