Coleen, What makes you so certain that the parents of John and his sister Bridget were Thomas & Catherine? Have you found something with these parents names and their son John and/or daughter Bridget? You have still not told us in which census, or other document, you have found the two children, John and Margaret, with what you believe to be their aunt Bridget and Malachy Hyland after John & Mary emigrated to the USA. Was this in the 1871 census entry that you found the children with Bridget and Malachy? I found what I think might be John Hyland junior, he born about 1855, in the 1871 in a lodging house in Chelsea. The ref. for this entry is RG10 piece 77 folio 60 page 23. It is a very large lodging house in Queen Street East, Chelsea, the house is called Model Lodging House I think, though it is a little difficult to read. This John Hyland is noted as a Lodger, is aged 16, occupation Servant, Born Chelsea Middx. His age of 16 in 1871 puts him born 1854/5. I can find no Margaret Hyland, or variant, born 1859 with +/- 5yrs., born Chelsea, nor one born anywhere in Middlesex, living anywhere in England in the 1871 census. As to the marriage you noted below. If you go back to FreeBMD and click on the page number in each of the entries in turn it will bring up the other names that appear in those two marriage, female and male names. By the 1870s. there were just 2 marriage per page in the register so you should find 4 names in all per page, provided that all four names have been transcribed to FreeBMD. FreeBMD is an ongoing project so not yet complete and you might find just two or three names instead of 4 on occasion. Regard Jenny DeAngelis <<free bmd.org.uk/ Bridget Hyland 1876 Chelsea Middlesex County Vol 1a pg.474 1877 Chelsea Middlesex County vol 1a pg.377 wonder if one of these could be her or if she married twice within a few mos. say if for example her husband died and she re-married. Hmm need to check out these two marriages as well to see if her parents were Thomas and Catherine Hyland>>

Jenny De Angelis wrote: > I can find no Margaret Hyland, or variant, born 1859 with +/- > 5yrs., born Chelsea, nor one born anywhere in Middlesex, living > anywhere in England in the 1871 census. I haven't been able to find a Margaret born c1859 either. > As to the marriage you noted below. If you go back to FreeBMD and > click on the page number in each of the entries in turn it will > bring up the other names that appear in those two marriage, female > and male names. By the 1870s. there were just 2 marriage per page > in the register so you should find 4 names in all per page, > provided that all four names have been transcribed to FreeBMD. > FreeBMD is an ongoing project so not yet complete and you might > find just two or three names instead of 4 on occasion. Coleen Coleman wrote: > <<free bmd.org.uk/ > Bridget Hyland > 1876 Chelsea Middlesex County > Vol 1a pg.474 This one is the Dec qtr (Coleen: this is what we mean about giving *all* the information!). This Bridget married either John FITZPATRICK *or* Stephen PASSENGER The 1881 census will tell you which. > 1877 Chelsea Middlesex County vol 1a pg.377 This one was in the March qtr. There's only one other name: Edward STRETTON Could be the other couple hasn't been transcribed or they were the last couple in that particular volume or quarter. > wonder if one of these could be her or if she married twice within > a few mos. say if for example her husband died and she re-married. > Coleen: If she remarried she would have done so under her late husband's name NOT her maiden name. You are talking about two different women, one of whom married in 1876 and the other in 1877 *but* one of them is very likely to be the Bridget you are looking for. > Hmm need to check out these two marriages as well to see if her > parents were Thomas and Catherine Hyland You will *NOT* get the mother's name! Please stop being so fixated with a single idea. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk