Stella, Caroline has answered your question re filling out the census form. All I would add is that the completed census form was meant to show who spent census night in a given place, who passed midnight on census night to be more precise if we were splitting hairs. On board a British Registered ship, whether at sea, in a foreign port or in a British port the master of the ship had the duty of filling out the schedule for his vessel for census night with details of his crew and any passengers on board. He also gave the ship's compass position at midnight on census night, her tonnage, her trade, her official registration number and her home port. He would also state where and when he had been handed that schedule for his vessel before setting off on the voyage that would take him and his crew etc., away over census night. All of these detail appear on the first page of the schedule, which first page you can also view on the Ancestry site as well as the list of the crew, but only in those censuses where ships have been included in the online images. Foreign registered ships that spent census night in a British port, I believe, were also included in the census because they were deemed to be on British soil, being in British waters. I thought I would mention this in case someone with mariner ancestors has lost them in one or other of the census, they might be at sea. Put the word Vessels in the Civil parish box instead of a place of abode and leave out the county of abode and you might turn your ancestor up. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<In that time frame - Did citizens - fill in the census form themselves ? Or - did an Enumerator come door to door - and request the information - filling in the details in his own hand.? Some may not always - enter complete or absolutely accurate information. as well - the informant/family - may not always give the correct info>> At 02:48 PM 07/08/2012, you wrote: >This "could" put Bridget Hyland the widow in this marriage as the "sister >in >Law" rather than sister of John Hyland in the 1861 census. This would mean >that John had a brother that married Bridget Maloy prior to the 1861 >census. >If Bridget Hyland was aged 40 at this 1877 marriage then that would make >her >about 23/24 year of age in the 1861 census approximately the same age as >Bridget Hyland shown as sister in the household of John Hyland. > >Maybe she is meant to be shown as sister in law in the 1861 census but the >in law part got missed out. If John Hyland could not write, as shown in his >marriage certificate that Coleen has, then maybe someone else filled out >the >household schedule for him and thought that Bridget was his sister not his >sister in law. > >This is just an idea that she could be John's sister in law rather than his >sister and would need some work to prove one way or another. > >Regards >Jenny DeAngelis. > > ><<>From Ancestry: London England, Marriages and Banns 1754 - 1921 > >Bridget HYLAND aged 40yrs Widow married Edward STRETTON aged 55yrs Widower >at St.Jude Church, Chelsea on March 26th 1877 Bride and Groom both made >their mark 'X' >Bridgets father : Bartholomew MALOY (deceased) occupation: Labourer >Address of bride: 1 Little College Street, Chelsea >The HYLAND's, including Bridget, were living at 6 Little College Street, >Chelsea in the 1861 census.>> > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "COLEEN COLEMAN" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 4:20 PM >Subject: [MDX] Marriages for Bridget Hyland > > > > How do I locate the right marriage record for the lady named Bridget > > Hyland age 23 in 1861 Middlesex with John, Mary and their (2) two > > children w/would like ordering all (7) seven certificates? > > I would like to find one with her parents possibly being listed as > > Thomas and Catherine. > > DATES: > > Dec 1861 Vol.8d pg.847 > > June 1864 vol.6b pg.927 > > Sept 1864 6d pg.396 > > June 1866 Vol.8e pg.84 > > Dec 1866 Vol.8c pg.243 > > Dec 1867 vol.8b pg.410 > > Mar 1869 vol.6c pg.228 > > If someone could get me a quick check on these records and let me > > know which one I need to order for my records as I am almost positive > > this is my family. > > John and Mary came to the US after 1861 (Hence not found in 1860 IL USA > > Census) where they were at when oldest daughter Margaret born 1862, > > followed by Elizabeth in 1863. > > Thanks so much for your help with this family. 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