Hi once again and I thi k I really need some help her if anyone can help I have taken up my neighbours tree after 20 year hiatus after she want3ed to know some small details that could only be found her in melbourne OZ re her families Her main family is FRENCH and gee is it a hard nut to crack!! The other are ok as Ancestry has a heap of them which helps but FRENCH?? Forget it Here is what we know or don't know.. My neighbour enlisted a professional researcher 20 year ago to get some info which somewhat helped but made the puzzle even worse!! He applied for a death certifcate in London for John FRENCH who died 1848 which is the ocrrect guy and his occupation was that of TAILOR aged 45 years He died or rather his death was recorded 21 Feb 1848 at 5 GLOUSTER PLACE REGENTS PARK. and we have no idea who the informant was. Transgressing... The 1841 Census shows John French and his wife Ann living HERTFORD St Borough Marylebone and in the house were John French 41y Tailor and his wife Ann 40y plus 3 kids Maria 7, Henry 10y, James 10y possibly twins as there are twins in my neighbours family John and Ann were not of this parish but the kids were!! Then the 1851 Census shows Ann French as widow born Bristol plus her niece who was born Dorset. No signs of the kids !! Ann French nee Cruse married John French St Clement Danes London 1832 and both just said both of this parish. Ann French or Cruse was the daughter of Bartholomew Cruse that I have had help with or I would be still floundering but this John French?? there is no way he will come out of the closet to tell me where he was born Ann and her surviving son Thomas came to Melbourne 1852 then married again and on her marriage certificate she stated she had 8 kids dec!! This is the where the puzzle begins Who were the kids and where were they born . I have tried Ancestry, Find my Past, The Genealogist ( with help) still nothing I haunt Ancestry in hopes Ann French nee Cruse died in Sydney and her son Thomas was the informant and he too died in Sydney and after looking at his kids names nothing seems to jump out at me for hints, clues for his siblings names etc Thomas French son of John and Ann was born January 9 1844 5 Gloucester place London and his father stated his occupation was that of Tailor Is it possible and I know anything is possible, that the kids were born in this area and is so how or where are these registers One would think Thomas French would appear in the 1851 Census as part of the house hold but he didn't I have tried using Ancestry as in inputting Thomas French as pupil or even nephew had a hit with that, but if that is so, who the couple are don't know. This family of French is really a puzzle and we want to try and solve it and would love to know where this John French was born, Maybe London but not knowing his parenatge certainly doesn't help Many thanks for reading this long winded plea, but I am out of ideas Elaine in wet Melbourne Oz

Elaine have you tried looking for the children's births on FreeBMD? Jeanette Quoting Elaine Jefferson <[email protected]>: > Hi once again and I thi k I really need some help her if anyone can help > I have taken up my neighbours tree after 20 year hiatus after she want3ed > to know some small details that could only be found her in melbourne OZ re > her families > Her main family is FRENCH and gee is it a hard nut to crack!! The other are > ok as Ancestry has a heap of them which helps but FRENCH?? Forget it > Here is what we know or don't know.. > My neighbour enlisted a professional researcher 20 year ago to get some > info which somewhat helped but made the puzzle even worse!! > He applied for a death certifcate in London for John FRENCH who died 1848 > which is the ocrrect guy and his occupation was that of TAILOR aged 45 > years He died or rather his death was recorded 21 Feb 1848 at 5 GLOUSTER > PLACE REGENTS PARK. and we have no idea who the informant was. > > Transgressing... > The 1841 Census shows John French and his wife Ann living HERTFORD St > Borough Marylebone and in the house were > John French 41y Tailor and his wife Ann 40y plus 3 kids Maria 7, Henry > 10y, James 10y possibly twins as there are twins in my neighbours family > John and Ann were not of this parish but the kids were!! > Then the 1851 Census shows Ann French as widow born Bristol plus her niece > who was born Dorset. No signs of the kids !! > > Ann French nee Cruse married John French St Clement Danes London 1832 and > both just said both of this parish. > Ann French or Cruse was the daughter of Bartholomew Cruse that I have had > help with or I would be still floundering but this John French?? there is > no way he will come out of the closet to tell me where he was born > Ann and her surviving son Thomas came to Melbourne 1852 then married again > and on her marriage certificate she stated she had 8 kids dec!! This is the > where the puzzle begins > Who were the kids and where were they born . > I have tried Ancestry, Find my Past, The Genealogist ( with help) still > nothing I haunt Ancestry in hopes > > Ann French nee Cruse died in Sydney and her son Thomas was the informant > and he too died in Sydney and after looking at his kids names nothing seems > to jump out at me for hints, clues for his siblings names etc > > Thomas French son of John and Ann was born January 9 1844 5 Gloucester > place London and his father stated his occupation was that of Tailor > Is it possible and I know anything is possible, that the kids were born in > this area and is so how or where are these registers > > One would think Thomas French would appear in the 1851 Census as part of > the house hold but he didn't I have tried using Ancestry as in inputting > Thomas French as pupil or even nephew had a hit with that, but if that is > so, who the couple are don't know. > > This family of French is really a puzzle and we want to try and solve it > and would love to know where this John French was born, Maybe London but > not knowing his parenatge certainly doesn't help > > Many thanks for reading this long winded plea, but I am out of ideas > > Elaine in wet Melbourne Oz > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jeannette I appreciate your input on the French kids but as most were born pre civil registration and I will never know who the kids were or place of birtht, They could have been born anywhere in United Kingdom, not just London as the father being a Tailor he must have moved around along with his spouse and kids Checked Free BMD indexes to the point I do not know. Sure there are some familiar names in the Deaths but no ages shown which is a pity Pancras covers a fair bit of ground and it does contain Regents Park, which to me is a clue, but I stll do not know anymore today than 20 year ago, Just the 1841 Census shows some of the kids and the 1851 no kids at all to me that is surprising. But I shall keep on looking and perhaps one day the family might appear or, they could be there and I just don't know it, Thanks again Elaine On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:30 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Elaine have you tried looking for the children's births on FreeBMD? > > Jeanette > > Quoting Elaine Jefferson <[email protected]>: > > > Hi once again and I thi k I really need some help her if anyone can help > > I have taken up my neighbours tree after 20 year hiatus after she want3ed > > to know some small details that could only be found her in melbourne OZ > re > > her families > > Her main family is FRENCH and gee is it a hard nut to crack!! The other > are > > ok as Ancestry has a heap of them which helps but FRENCH?? Forget it > > Here is what we know or don't know.. > > My neighbour enlisted a professional researcher 20 year ago to get some > > info which somewhat helped but made the puzzle even worse!! > > He applied for a death certifcate in London for John FRENCH who died 1848 > > which is the ocrrect guy and his occupation was that of TAILOR aged 45 > > years He died or rather his death was recorded 21 Feb 1848 at 5 GLOUSTER > > PLACE REGENTS PARK. and we have no idea who the informant was. > > > > Transgressing... > > The 1841 Census shows John French and his wife Ann living HERTFORD St > > Borough Marylebone and in the house were > > John French 41y Tailor and his wife Ann 40y plus 3 kids Maria 7, Henry > > 10y, James 10y possibly twins as there are twins in my neighbours family > > John and Ann were not of this parish but the kids were!! > > Then the 1851 Census shows Ann French as widow born Bristol plus her > niece > > who was born Dorset. No signs of the kids !! > > > > Ann French nee Cruse married John French St Clement Danes London 1832 and > > both just said both of this parish. > > Ann French or Cruse was the daughter of Bartholomew Cruse that I have had > > help with or I would be still floundering but this John French?? there is > > no way he will come out of the closet to tell me where he was born > > Ann and her surviving son Thomas came to Melbourne 1852 then married > again > > and on her marriage certificate she stated she had 8 kids dec!! This is > the > > where the puzzle begins > > Who were the kids and where were they born . > > I have tried Ancestry, Find my Past, The Genealogist ( with help) still > > nothing I haunt Ancestry in hopes > > > > Ann French nee Cruse died in Sydney and her son Thomas was the informant > > and he too died in Sydney and after looking at his kids names nothing > seems > > to jump out at me for hints, clues for his siblings names etc > > > > Thomas French son of John and Ann was born January 9 1844 5 Gloucester > > place London and his father stated his occupation was that of Tailor > > Is it possible and I know anything is possible, that the kids were born > in > > this area and is so how or where are these registers > > > > One would think Thomas French would appear in the 1851 Census as part of > > the house hold but he didn't I have tried using Ancestry as in inputting > > Thomas French as pupil or even nephew had a hit with that, but if that is > > so, who the couple are don't know. > > > > This family of French is really a puzzle and we want to try and solve it > > and would love to know where this John French was born, Maybe London but > > not knowing his parenatge certainly doesn't help > > > > Many thanks for reading this long winded plea, but I am out of ideas > > > > Elaine in wet Melbourne Oz > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > > CAPITAL letters** > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > **MEANINGFUL Subject Lines - who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters** > > List Admin can be contacted at: [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >