HI Margaret, If you did find a record with George Frederick seniors birth place shown then I would be forever grateful. But I know that in the 1881 census George's son, also called George Frederick has a birth place that looks like it might be Paris. The image is very feint and almost impossible to read on the face of it. Maybe this is the record you have seen, but it is not for George F. senior but his son. Ref. RG11 piece 341 folio 15 page 23 St. Andrews Holborn I think what it should read as is Pancras. George Fred. junior was baptised at St George Bloomsbury in August 1834 along with his sister Mary Miranda on the same day. Later in 1843 the family must have been in the St. Pancras/Holloway area as Hermasfred was baptised ast St. Pancras Old church in the January her abode was given as Holloway at the time. Maybe George junior thought he too had been born and baptised in the same place because he remember he had lived there as a young boy. Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Jenny Hello, I have seen a record that stated Paris as Georges birth. Wish I had passed it on at the time. I will go back and see if I can find it again. Back to you, Margaret in New zealand>>