Very interesting. The (printed) register of St George's Hanover Square says, "Married at St Peter's, Pimlico", 27 August 1833. It was by "Special Licence", so does that somehow make it permissible to solemnize the marriage at St Peter's rather than at the parish church of St George's, Hanover Square? An important question (for me) is whether any marriages were solemnized at St. Peter's, Eaton Square without being recorded in the register of St George's Hanover Square! I have assumed the answer is no. Are there any B.T.s for St. Peter's, Eaton Square which include marriages? Can anything be inferred about the kind of people who used St. Peter's, Eaton Square for baptisms, or do you suppose they were simply the local inhabitants in the main? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K gen" <gen2mail@gmail.com> To: "Middx list" <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] St Peter, Eaton Square and St George, Hanover Square > Am now looking at British Newspaper Archives and find the Morning > Chronicle reporting on 29 Aug 1833 on the marriage of the Earl of > Uxbridge at St Peter's church Eaton Square. So the Westminster > archives' registers do not include the earlier events. > > More to look for. > > JK > > On 28 May 2014 15:00, johnfhhgen <johnfhhgen@uwclub.net> wrote: >> On 28/05/2014 11:00 AM, J K gen wrote: >>> It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in >>> 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to >>> restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding >>> registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of >>> duplication >>> or chapelry etc. >>> Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself >>> was formed from St Martin in the Fields. >>> JK > >> I was going to refer you to >> http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Westminster/churches.htm >> but checking reveals it is time I updated it! >> >> The usual quick key to establishment of a church district as a separate >> parish is the date of the commencement of the marriage register, as >> until a church became a parish church in its own right marriages could >> not be solemnized there (after Banns) nor could it have its own marriage >> register. Although all Baptisms in a parish has to be recorded in the >> parish register at the parish church, most "new" churches/chapels within >> a parish found it conveneient to also keep their own baptism registers, >> copied up at intervals into the parish register, hence the apparent >> duplication. IIRC, at St.Pancras this was done quarterly or even >> annually, so the date run in the parent register is often much out of >> synch. >> The precise date of he establishment of a new parish can be ascertained >> from the relevant Order in Council or Act, and also from Young's "Guide >> to the Local Administrative Units of England (1979). However, the >> latter, which shows that St.Peter, Eaton Square, became a parish in >> 1830, confuses its becoming an ecclesiastical district (still within the >> parish of St.George's, Han.Sq.) in 1830, with its actual becoming a new >> parish subsequent to the New Parishes Act of 1843. >> Kind regards, >> John Henley