Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? Thanks JK
I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives contains the relevant dates. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K gen" <gen2mail@gmail.com> To: "Middx list" <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:44 PM Subject: [MDX] St Peter, Eaton Square and St George, Hanover Square > Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 > Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. > > Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? > > Thanks > JK
It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of duplication or chapelry etc. Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself was formed from St Martin in the Fields. JK On 28 May 2014 10:14, J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear > in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the > "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. > > I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives > contains the relevant dates. > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J K gen" <gen2mail@gmail.com> > To: "Middx list" <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:44 PM > Subject: [MDX] St Peter, Eaton Square and St George, Hanover Square > > >> Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 >> Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. >> >> Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? >> >> Thanks >> JK > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 28/05/2014 11:00 AM, J K gen wrote: > It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to > restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of duplication > or chapelry etc. > Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself was formed from St Martin in the Fields. > JK I was going to refer you to http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Westminster/churches.htm but checking reveals it is time I updated it! The usual quick key to establishment of a church district as a separate parish is the date of the commencement of the marriage register, as until a church became a parish church in its own right marriages could not be solemnized there (after Banns) nor could it have its own marriage register. Although all Baptisms in a parish has to be recorded in the parish register at the parish church, most "new" churches/chapels within a parish found it conveneient to also keep their own baptism registers, copied up at intervals into the parish register, hence the apparent duplication. IIRC, at St.Pancras this was done quarterly or even annually, so the date run in the parent register is often much out of synch. The precise date of he establishment of a new parish can be ascertained from the relevant Order in Council or Act, and also from Young's "Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England (1979). However, the latter, which shows that St.Peter, Eaton Square, became a parish in 1830, confuses its becoming an ecclesiastical district (still within the parish of St.George's, Han.Sq.) in 1830, with its actual becoming a new parish subsequent to the New Parishes Act of 1843. Kind regards, John Henley > On 28 May 2014 10:14, J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear >> in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the >> "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. >> I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives >> contains the relevant dates. >> John >> >> ----- Original Message -----From: "J K gen" >>> Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 >>> Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. >>> Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? >>> Thanks JK >>