On 28/05/2014 5:53 PM, johnfhhgen wrote: > I was careful to state that district churches could not conduct > marriages after Banns. Marriages by Special Lincece, can of course, > permit marriage in any place and at any hour, as specified in the > Licence. But all marriages must be recorded in the parish register at > the parish church, and since 1837, the duplicate marriage registers > supplied by the Registrar General to the parish must be used. So the > correct procedure was followed for the wedding of the Earl of > Uxbridge. Until 1844/5, when St.Peter's became a parish church in its > own right, the BTs would be for St.Geo.Han.Sq. registers. By the time > St.Peter's became independent, BTs were falling out of fashion (not > sure why?), and the way BTs were stored in St.Paul's Cathedral it is > amazing any survived! Baptisms at St.Peter's should properly be from > the designated district of 1830: in practice examinations of the > addresses and occupations in the registers will tell the true story. > In the 1830s St.Geo Han.Sq. was a bit of a marriage shop - 20-30 > marriages not uncommon in mass ceremonies, interspersed with single > cermonies for the well-to-do. By the end of the 19th.cent both > St.Geo.H.S. and St.Peter's Eaton Sq. v.fashionable for society > weddings. Kind regards, John Henley Meant to have added: This book has an interesting Introduction covering the development of parishes:The New parishes acts, 1843,1844, & 1856. With notes and observations [&c.] by J.C. Traill The New parishes acts, 1843,1844, & 1856. With notes and observations [&c.] by J.C. Traill http://books.google.co.uk/books/reader?id=hrIOAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&source=gbs_atb_hover&pg=GBS.PA125 as well as printing the Acts in full. Kind regards, John Henley

Further snippets: SoG transcription of Boyd's Marriage Index (on FMP no images) has the 1833 marriage taking place at St George Hanover Square. Westminster Archives info implies they don't have registers for this period. They make no mention of BTs. LMA's own A-Z of London parishes states that St George Hanover Square is at Westminster, and doesn't mention that it holds BTs, and again says St Peter is at Westminster Archives. Online at Ancestry from LMA are BTs, but not for St Peter's church, those for St George Hanover Square stop in 1832. There's reports in relevant newspapers at British Newspaper Archives of the fire damage to St Peter's which took place at end of 1836, first report appearing 1 Jan 1837. Mentions of rescuing some things from inside the church, suggestions that the vestry itself was undamaged, one would like to think that the parish records and registers were therefore safe. The baptism records held at Westminster would appear to date from 1831, the marriages from 1844. Therefore presumably St Peter's didn't have its own marriage register. JK On 28 May 2014 18:08, johnfhhgen <johnfhhgen@uwclub.net> wrote: > On 28/05/2014 5:53 PM, johnfhhgen wrote: >> I was careful to state that district churches could not conduct >> marriages after Banns. Marriages by Special Lincece, can of course, >> permit marriage in any place and at any hour, as specified in the >> Licence. But all marriages must be recorded in the parish register at >> the parish church, and since 1837, the duplicate marriage registers >> supplied by the Registrar General to the parish must be used. So the >> correct procedure was followed for the wedding of the Earl of >> Uxbridge. Until 1844/5, when St.Peter's became a parish church in its >> own right, the BTs would be for St.Geo.Han.Sq. registers. By the time >> St.Peter's became independent, BTs were falling out of fashion (not >> sure why?), and the way BTs were stored in St.Paul's Cathedral it is >> amazing any survived! Baptisms at St.Peter's should properly be from >> the designated district of 1830: in practice examinations of the >> addresses and occupations in the registers will tell the true story. >> In the 1830s St.Geo Han.Sq. was a bit of a marriage shop - 20-30 >> marriages not uncommon in mass ceremonies, interspersed with single >> cermonies for the well-to-do. By the end of the 19th.cent both >> St.Geo.H.S. and St.Peter's Eaton Sq. v.fashionable for society >> weddings. Kind regards, John Henley > > Meant to have added: > This book has an interesting Introduction covering the development of > parishes:The New parishes acts, 1843,1844, & 1856. With notes and > observations [&c.] by J.C. Traill > > > The New parishes acts, 1843,1844, & 1856. With notes and observations > [&c.] by J.C. Traill > > > http://books.google.co.uk/books/reader?id=hrIOAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&source=gbs_atb_hover&pg=GBS.PA125 > > as well as printing the Acts in full. > Kind regards, > John Henley > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message