I have just come across what seem to me to be duplicate baptismal records, only in two different churches. 1 -- typed manuscript of Christchurch Newgate Street, indicates that Mary Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias (sic) Harvey and his wife was baptized March 25, 1672/3. 2) original parish register of All Hallows Staining shows a baptism for Mary Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias Harvey and his wife, on March 25, 1672/73. (To add to the confusion, the date is mistranscribed as 1692/93 but looking at the parish record itself it is clear that the date is 1672/73. I should add that I found both entries in the London baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812, etc. file on Ancestry. Both entries use the form: "and his wife" rather than give her name. Can anyone explain why there would be duplicate entries? Santa T.

Hello Santa. I suspect that there was in fact only one baptism but it was recorded in both registers because Christchurch was, I believe, burnt down in the Great Fire of London and the rebuilding was not completed until after 1672/3.. As residents of Christchurch parish Sir Elias and his family maty have availed themselves of arrangements for services to be held at All Saints, but thought it proper for the entry to be shown in both registers. Sid . On 16 October 2010 02:45, Santa Traugott <strau@umich.edu> wrote: > I have just come across what seem to me to be duplicate baptismal records, > only in two different churches. > > 1 -- typed manuscript of Christchurch Newgate Street, indicates that Mary > Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias (sic) Harvey and his wife was baptized March > 25, 1672/3. > > 2) original parish register of All Hallows Staining shows a baptism for > Mary Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias Harvey and his wife, on March 25, > 1672/73. (To add to the confusion, the date is mistranscribed as 1692/93 > but looking at the parish record itself it is clear that the date is > 1672/73. > > I should add that I found both entries in the London baptisms, marriages > and burials 1538-1812, etc. file on Ancestry. Both entries use the form: > "and his wife" rather than give her name. > > Can anyone explain why there would be duplicate entries? > > Santa T. > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Santa, The confusion has arisen due to a labelling error by Ancestry. There appears to have been only one baptism, at All Hallows Staining. This is shown in the original parish register (LMA ref. P69/ALH6/A/A/01, former Guildhall Ms 17824). The other, typescript source is a partial index and transcription of the same register, All Hallows Staining (former Guildhall Ms 21584/1). Ancestry have labelled this incorrectly as Christ Church Newgate. What's more, they have allocated it the wrong LMA reference (P69/ALH6/A/A/01, should be P69/ALH6/A/017). Now that the registers are indexed, albeit with deficiencies, at least we can see the sources for the data. In cases of doubt, the catalogue references given by Ancestry can be cross-checked with the LMA's online catalogue. http://search.lma.gov.uk/opac_lma/index.htm HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Santa Traugott I have just come across what seem to me to be duplicate baptismal records, only in two different churches. 1 -- typed manuscript of Christchurch Newgate Street, indicates that Mary Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias (sic) Harvey and his wife was baptized March 25, 1672/3. 2) original parish register of All Hallows Staining shows a baptism for Mary Harvey, daughter of Sir Elias Harvey and his wife, on March 25, 1672/73. (To add to the confusion, the date is mistranscribed as 1692/93 but looking at the parish record itself it is clear that the date is 1672/73. I should add that I found both entries in the London baptisms, marriages and burials 1538-1812, etc. file on Ancestry. Both entries use the form: "and his wife" rather than give her name. Can anyone explain why there would be duplicate entries? Santa T.