Thank you so very much for reply. I have now managed to get a clearer copy of 1991 census of the whole Patrick Carmody family, and someone is going to try and check on Genes Reunited for me to see IF anyone on there has any relationship to the family. It's my last hope of ever finding out a possibility of info on my direct Carmody family. Unfortunately, I cannot get thru the genes site to post a message direct nor find the ones you mention. Thank again.