Courtesy of Ancestry.com Paris, France & Vicinity Marriage Banns, 1860-1902 (in French) date 30 Oct 1881 name Justine Leontine Duclos daughter of Emas Louis and Louise Hugé Address R de la Harper? 21 Unfortunately Henri Auguste's parentage is not given in these banns. No other marriage for him on this list. There is a marriage in Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1700-1907 (in French) It comes in two parts which I have put together: 8 Apr 1856: Sainte-Madeleine Jacques Auguste MENEREAU address: neuve St Augustin 50 son of Jacques and Marié Aime Rigolet spouse MOUSSIN Louise Henriett MOUSSIN - Veuve de Etme Rocheron address: v neuve St Augustin 50 dau of Denis and Adelaide Guillaume spouse MENEREAU As well as Roman Catholic there are also French Protestant churches. Most of the latter churches have been indexed and/or transcribed by the Hugenot Society, who have published many records, and some of these have been filmed and are available via the LDS Family History Centers. Search their library for the film numbers - Googling also gets you to the London fhc catalogue which might provide added clues. There is a French Protestant Church, Soho Square whose very recent records are held by Westminster Archives I believe. TNA "Your Archives" section has an article about Soho Square which contains reference to the Church. Further googling may help. You mention the BMD registers - are these the ones on S&N The Genealogist? If so they are usually pre 1837 and indexed by the LDS on the IGI. FreeBMD has deaths in Sep qtr of 1912 both at Pancras RD Henry A Menereau aged 52 and Lily L Menereau aged 9. There's als a birth in Mar qtr 1920 for Reginald D E MENEREAU mother RIDING also Pancras RD, and another in Mar qtr 1923 for Marjorie E Menereau mother Riding this one in Portsmouth RD, followed by Jun qtr 1928 Patricia L Menereau mother Riding also Portsmouth RD - this last married Colingridge in Sep qtr 1947 in Portsmouth RD There's another Reginald birth Dec qtr 1928 Reginald F E Menereau mother Brooks at Pancras RD I'll leave you to look for all the others! HTH JK On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Charani <charani.b@gmail.com> wrote: > Background > > Henri Auguste MENEREAU was born in France (not too surprisingly! :)) ) > about 1860.  I have no idea eactly where so his parentage will remain > unknown.  I'm not sure when he arrived in England but he was certainly > here by 1886 when he married either Maria Victoria TANQUERAY or Mary > Ann WRIGHT.  My feeling is he married Maria Victoria. > > I've found Henri in the 1891 census but no sign of his wife.  He's an > hotel keeper's clerk boarding at 113, Euston Street, St Pancras and > says he's married. > > I cannot find him in the 1901 census but he may have been visiting > family in France. > > He appears in the 1911 census with 6 of his 7 children (one having > died) but with a wife called Hannah and claiming to have been married > 18 years making a marriage date of about 1893.  I know which child he > lost: Alice Rachel H age 1. > > I've not been able to find this marriage.  The eldest son, Reginald > (bc 1895), has either not been registered or has been missed off the > GRO index.  He would appear to be Hannah's son and there don't appear > to have been any children from Henri's 1886 marriage. > > I've had a ferret on Ancestry's London Parishes at the library without > success but it's possible the birth was registered in the City of > Westminster as Henri's second son was registered in Kensington.  The > third and subsequent children were all registered in St Pancras but > their baptisms are there either.  It's quite likely they were Roman > Catholic but there's nothing coming up on the non conformist BMD > Registers. > > This is a new discovery so I haven't had a chance to get any > certificates as yet. > > Questions: > > Can anyone identify Henri's first wife and what happened to her? > Can anyone find his apparent second marriage to Hannah and who she was? > Can anyone locate Reginald's birth? > > At the moment, I'm stumped, so any help would be much appreciated. >

J K gen wrote: > Courtesy of Ancestry.com > Paris, France & Vicinity Marriage Banns, 1860-1902 (in French) > > date 30 Oct 1881 > name Justine Leontine Duclos > daughter of Emas Louis and Louise Hugé > Address R de la Harper? 21 > > Unfortunately Henri Auguste's parentage is not given in these banns. > > No other marriage for him on this list. Eeeeekkkkk!!! What I thought was his first marriage was actually his second! Unless this one didn't actually take place. One of his dau's by Hannah Whoever (wife #3) was Lily Leontine who died a bit before her father in 1912. > There is a marriage in > Paris, France & Vicinity Marriages, 1700-1907 (in French) > > It comes in two parts which I have put together: > > 8 Apr 1856: Sainte-Madeleine > > Jacques Auguste MENEREAU > address: neuve St Augustin 50 > son of Jacques and Marié Aime Rigolet > spouse MOUSSIN > > Louise Henriett MOUSSIN - Veuve de Etme Rocheron > address: v neuve St Augustin 50 > dau of Denis and Adelaide Guillaume > spouse MENEREAU They look good to be Henri Auguste's parents. > As well as Roman Catholic there are also French Protestant churches. > Most of the latter churches have been indexed and/or transcribed by > the Hugenot Society, who have published many records, and some of > these have been filmed and are available via the LDS Family History > Centers. Search their library for the film numbers - Googling also > gets you to the London fhc catalogue which might provide added clues. I'll have to have a look at paying the London FHC a visit when I'm next up there. I don't have one that's easily accessible from where I live. > There is a French Protestant Church, Soho Square whose very recent > records are held by Westminster Archives I believe. TNA "Your > Archives" section has an article about Soho Square which contains > reference to the Church. Further googling may help. I'll add Westminster Archives to the visit as well. > You mention the BMD registers - are these the ones on S&N The > Genealogist? If so they are usually pre 1837 and indexed by the LDS on > the IGI. They're on a separate site, but, yes, they are The Genealogist ones. > FreeBMD has deaths in Sep qtr of 1912 both at Pancras RD > Henry A Menereau aged 52 and > Lily L Menereau aged 9. That's Henri and his dau. Another dau, Malvina, died in 1922. Henri's eldest son on 9 Nov 1918 in Germany and his second one in 1939. Hannah must have wondered what she'd done to deserve to lose so many of her family. She'd already lost Alice in 1910. Bryan, the 4th son died young as well. > There's als a birth in Mar qtr 1920 for Reginald D E MENEREAU mother > RIDING also Pancras RD, and another in Mar qtr 1923 for Marjorie E > Menereau mother Riding this one in Portsmouth RD, followed by Jun qtr > 1928 Patricia L Menereau mother Riding also Portsmouth RD - this last > married Colingridge in Sep qtr 1947 in Portsmouth RD It's Patricia's family I've been following back but I hadn't searched for any siblings yet though. The COLLINGRIDGE she married was my cousin Ramon whose mother was a naughty girl which has resulted in Ramon having three birth certificates <VBG> However, Patricia's mother is also causing a furrowed brow. She's Mary E RIDING but I think she was married before. I haven't been able to find a MENEREAU/RIDING marriage so far. > There's another Reginald birth > Dec qtr 1928 Reginald F E Menereau mother Brooks at Pancras RD Hmmm. There's a Mary RIDING who married a Frederick BROOKS. It's started raining here. I guess that means they're all on their fluffy clouds crying with laughter!! <G> > I'll leave you to look for all the others! Thank you :)) I've been having a bit more of a ferret as you'll have realised. > HTH Yes, it does. Thank you very much for digging them out and in particular the French entries. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/