Hi Valma The obvious way to establish the maiden name of George's wife (and thus, most probably, Ann's mother) would be to buy the birth certificate of one of the later children. However, in this particular case, you may be able to circumvent this process (and the 9.25GBP cost) because it appears that George and his wife Ann spent a while in Clapham in the early years of their marriage. For some reason, for which we are eternally grateful, it was the practice in that parish (and a small number of others) to enter the mother's maiden name in the baptism registers. So, we have George LEES marrying Ann WARREN on 6 February 1822 at All Hallows, Tottenham, then George Edmund, their first son (we know this, because the register also gives this added extra) baptised in Clapham on 6 October of the same year, followed by John Thomas and William in 1823 and 1825. The mother's maiden name for all three is WARREN and the father's occupation is gardener. The move back to Tottenham seems to have happened between 1825 and 1827 when Maria was baptised at All Hallows, Tottenham, to be followed by lots more (Catherine, Frederick, Ann, Henry, Eliza, Sophia and Susannah). Details of all these events are available via Ancestry - let me know if you need me to send you images. Best wishes Caroline > Seeking family members or anyone who can help with information > regarding Ann > Lees born c1836 at Tottenham., Middlesex.  Father is named George.  Ann > married > Charles Hawkins in Berkshire in 1856 prior to coming to Australia in > 1857.  Have > found  Maria, Frederick and Ann Lees born to George Lees and Ann > Lees.   Could > this Ann  be Ann Warren who married a George Lees in 1822 and could she > be the > correct family member?  Not sure how to authenticate this.  Any ideas > please? > Valma > > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message