Hello I am a new subscriber to this list. I am researching the DORAN family from Middlesex, descending from George William DORAN (born 1860 Kilburn) and Mary Ann Maria LANE (born 1863 Marylebone), for my uncle in Australia. The person in question is shown in the 1911 census for George William DORAN as his grandson aged 7 months born in Marylebone, London. I have traced his emigration to Australia in November 1924 and know of his two marriages there. However I have hit a brick wall in trying to find out who his parents are. The only likely candidate begs the indelicate question as to whether he was born illegitimately to Rose Violet DORAN also listed on the 1911 census, daughter aged 20. Does anyone have any further information about Frank George? My other surname interests are BISHOP (Margate, Kent), HOLDEN (Margate, Kent), WILSON (Halifax, Yorkshire), BIRCHENALL (Stockport, Cheshire) and JACKSON (Salford, Manchester). Best regards Martin Bishop (Chorley, Lancashire)

Hi Martin I am not sure its that indelicate a question these days ? What does his birth cert say? Name: Frank G Doran Year of Registration: 1910 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: St Marylebone (1902-1977) County: Greater London, London Volume: 1a Page: 496 Does not one or other marriage give his parents ? Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Hello > > I am a new subscriber to this list. I am researching the DORAN family > from > Middlesex, descending from George William DORAN (born 1860 Kilburn) and > Mary > Ann Maria LANE (born 1863 Marylebone), for my uncle in Australia. The > person in question is shown in the 1911 census for George William DORAN > as > his grandson aged 7 months born in Marylebone, London. I have traced his > emigration to Australia in November 1924 and know of his two marriages > there. However I have hit a brick wall in trying to find out who his > parents are. The only likely candidate begs the indelicate question as to > whether he was born illegitimately to Rose Violet DORAN also listed on the > 1911 census, daughter aged 20. Does anyone have any further information > about Frank George? > Best regards > > Martin Bishop (Chorley, Lancashire)

Hi Martin, and welcome. As brick walls go, this is about as flimsy as it can get. The lad's birth certificate will give you the information you need, though if, as you suspect, he was illegitimate, it won't show his father's name. You have the GRO reference - just make sure you order the cert directly via www.gro.gov.uk, not any of the alternative sources who will charge you more and take longer. If you find the subject of illegitimacy indelicate, then family history may not be the best hobby for you:) I doubt there is anyone on this list who hasn't got at least one ancestor in their tree born on the wrong side of the blanket! Best wishes Caroline > Hello > > I am a new subscriber to this list. I am researching the DORAN family > from > Middlesex, descending from George William DORAN (born 1860 Kilburn) and > Mary > Ann Maria LANE (born 1863 Marylebone), for my uncle in Australia. The > person in question is shown in the 1911 census for George William > DORAN as > his grandson aged 7 months born in Marylebone, London. I have traced > his > emigration to Australia in November 1924 and know of his two marriages > there. However I have hit a brick wall in trying to find out who his > parents are. The only likely candidate begs the indelicate question as > to > whether he was born illegitimately to Rose Violet DORAN also listed on > the > 1911 census, daughter aged 20. Does anyone have any further > information > about Frank George? > > My other surname interests are BISHOP (Margate, Kent), HOLDEN (Margate, > Kent), WILSON (Halifax, Yorkshire), BIRCHENALL (Stockport, Cheshire) > and > JACKSON (Salford, Manchester). > > Best regards > > Martin Bishop (Chorley, Lancashire)