Greetings. Could sks please find Charles GILBART ,1841 1851 please. Thanks to help some years ago, he is found in 1871 at Mumbles, Oystermouth, Wales, born c1808, Hayler, Cornwall, occ. retired Master Mariner. He wasn't found on 1861 census) He was married in June Qtr 1859 St Luke Finsbury to Matilda Elizabeth MILLER daughter of David (but their marriage I can't find on Ancestry index) .Matilda would have been about 38 when they married and Charles 50. The reason I am interested in the earlier census is, a google search of his name brought up a reference to a marriage In April 1833 at Oystermouth, Charles Gilbart, esq. to Eleanor, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Beynon, of Pittan, Gower. And it is this couple I hope can be found in 1841 and 1851. Thanks Glenys

Hi Glenys 1851 Name: Charles Gilbert Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Hayle, Cornwall, England Civil Parish: Northam County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Bideford Sub-registration district: Bideford ED, institution, or vessel: 1d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 159 Household Members: Name Age Henry Smith 56 Hager Smith 51 Ann Cann 31 William Cann 25 Elizabeth A Cann 1 Charles Gilbert 42 mariner master Hayle Cornwall Ellen Gilbert 40 mariners wife Pilton Glamorgan HO107; Piece: 1895; Folio: 290; Page: 40; GSU roll: 221046. Charles birthplace is *Hayle* Cornwall (not Hayler) and the marriage place you mention is more likely Pitton near Rhossili on the Gower or Pilton Green Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Greetings. > Could sks please find Charles GILBART ,1841 1851 please. > Thanks to help some years ago, he is found in 1871 at Mumbles, > Oystermouth, > Wales, born c1808, Hayler, Cornwall, occ. retired Master Mariner. He > wasn't > found on 1861 census) > > He was married in June Qtr 1859 St Luke Finsbury to Matilda Elizabeth > MILLER > daughter of David (but their marriage I can't find on Ancestry index) > .Matilda would have been about 38 when they married and Charles 50. > > The reason I am interested in the earlier census is, a google search of > his name > brought up a reference to a marriage In April 1833 at Oystermouth, Charles > Gilbart, esq. to Eleanor, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Beynon, > of > Pittan, Gower. > And it is this couple I hope can be found in 1841 and 1851. > > Thanks > Glenys

Glenys, The 1859 marriage may have been in a Catholic church (judging by the names of the other couple listed on the same index page), or possibly in a register office. That would explain why it's not found on Ancestry's database, which is derived only from parish registers held at LMA/Guildhall. Your best course will be to order the marriage certificate from the GRO in the usual way. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenys Petry Could sks please find Charles GILBART ,1841 1851 please. Thanks to help some years ago, he is found in 1871 at Mumbles, Oystermouth, Wales, born c1808, Hayler, Cornwall, occ. retired Master Mariner. He wasn't found on 1861 census) He was married in June Qtr 1859 St Luke Finsbury to Matilda Elizabeth MILLER daughter of David (but their marriage I can't find on Ancestry index) .Matilda would have been about 38 when they married and Charles 50. The reason I am interested in the earlier census is, a google search of his name brought up a reference to a marriage In April 1833 at Oystermouth, Charles Gilbart, esq. to Eleanor, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Beynon, of Pittan, Gower. And it is this couple I hope can be found in 1841 and 1851.

Hi Glenys Could either of these be your man? 1841 Census - England Name: Charles Galbert Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Wootton Bassett Hundred: Kingsbridge County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Bank Agent Registration district: Cricklade Sub-registration district: Wootton Bassett Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Galbert 35 Eleanor Galbert 30 May Gilbert 6 Martha Gilbert 2 I have looked at the image and it is difficult to read but I do believe it has been a transcription error As you can see by the surnames given. May Gilbert could also be Mary. 1851 Census - England Name: Charles Gilbert Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eleanor Gilbert Gender: Male Where born: Collingbourne Kingston, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish: Chiddingfold County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Hambledon Sub-registration district: Witley ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 70 Household Members: Name Age Charles Gilbert 47 Eleanor Gilbert 43 Francis Williams Gilbert 20 Martha Gilbert 12 Maria Varnes 17 John Combes 20 Regards Lyn -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Glenys Petry Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2010 7:16 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] GILBART 1841 1851 plse Greetings. Could sks please find Charles GILBART ,1841 1851 please. Thanks to help some years ago, he is found in 1871 at Mumbles, Oystermouth, Wales, born c1808, Hayler, Cornwall, occ. retired Master Mariner. He wasn't found on 1861 census) He was married in June Qtr 1859 St Luke Finsbury to Matilda Elizabeth MILLER daughter of David (but their marriage I can't find on Ancestry index) .Matilda would have been about 38 when they married and Charles 50. The reason I am interested in the earlier census is, a google search of his name brought up a reference to a marriage In April 1833 at Oystermouth, Charles Gilbart, esq. to Eleanor, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Beynon, of Pittan, Gower. And it is this couple I hope can be found in 1841 and 1851. Thanks Glenys ************************************** Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1851 Class: HO107; Piece: 1895; Folio: 290; Page: 40; ?Cleave/Cleare/Clease? Houses, Northam, Devon Henry Smith 56 Shipwright Journeyman Cornwall Fowey Hager Smith 51 Shipwrights wife do do Ann Cann 31 Shipwrights daughter do do William Cann 25 Shipwright journeyman Devon Bideford Elizabeth A Cann 1 Devon Northam Charles Gilbert 42 Visitor Mariner Master b Hayle, Cornwall Ellen Gilbert 40 Mariner's wife Glamorgan Pitton Deaths Jun 1852 GILBART Ellen Brentford 3a 47 Anne South Australia Glenys Petry wrote: > Greetings. > Could sks please find Charles GILBART ,1841 1851 please. > Thanks to help some years ago, he is found in 1871 at Mumbles, Oystermouth, > Wales, born c1808, Hayler, Cornwall, occ. retired Master Mariner. He wasn't > found on 1861 census) > > He was married in June Qtr 1859 St Luke Finsbury to Matilda Elizabeth MILLER > daughter of David (but their marriage I can't find on Ancestry index) > .Matilda would have been about 38 when they married and Charles 50. > > The reason I am interested in the earlier census is, a google search of his name > brought up a reference to a marriage In April 1833 at Oystermouth, Charles > Gilbart, esq. to Eleanor, youngest daughter of the late Mr. John Beynon, of > Pittan, Gower. > And it is this couple I hope can be found in 1841 and 1851. > > Thanks > Glenys >