Here are the baptisms of the two elder children Samuel Walter Ross b 6 March 1853 Baptism 20 Aug 1865 Samuel Bennett Ross, Fringe Weaver Elizabeth Adelaide Ross 4 Chapel Street Holy Trinity, Grays Inn Road Camden Maria Christiana Ross b 17 April 1851 Baptism 19 Nov 1869 Samuel Bennett Ross, Weaver Elizabeth Ross 47 Devonshire St St George the Martyr, Queen Square Camden Her birth does not seem to be on the FreeBMD index - it might pay you to get Samuel Walter's birth certificate to check who his mother is. Births Mar 1853 Ross Samuel Walter Clerkenwell 1b 450 Anne South Australia Richard Bailey wrote: > I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann > Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 - 55, > after having two children, > Maria in about 1852 St Giles and > Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell > > I cannot find her death either, but I do have the certificate for his > marriage to my G G Grandmother Elizabeth Adelaide Godfrey, Sarah's cousin. > > In the 1861 census, Samuel aged 46 and Elizabeth aged 30 are living at 3 > Bloomsbury St St. Giles Bloomsbury, with > Maria aged 9 born London St Andrews > Samuel Walter aged 8 born London Clerkenwell, > John Eyles ( my G Grandfather) aged 5 born London St Giles > Alice aged 1 born London St George the Martyr > > Samuel was a Fringe and Gaup Weaver. Can anyone explain what a gaup weaver > is? I have searched and haven't been able to find any reference for that. > What type of weaving was done in London? > > Samuel Walter and John Eyles Ross came out toMelbourne Australia on the > Lucibelle arriving in Dec 1865 They were aged 12 and 10. I haven't been able > to find the circumstances for their coming to Australia alone at such an > age. It was too early for the Bernardo scheme, but I presume it was through > some other benevolent society. > > I haven't found Samuels death either, but in the 1871 census, Elizabeth is > the Head of Household, with sons Arthur J Ross 8, Walter G Ross 5, living > at 49 Devonshire St St. George the Martyr. and by the 1881 census she was a > widow. She had remarried in 1872 to John Read and he died in 1877. > > If anyone could give me some clues on this family, or if you may be > connected, I would love to hear from you. > > Kind regards, > Nan Bailey > Queensland Aust > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks so much Anne, The 1930 birth date for Sarah Ann Godfrey was given to me by a descendant of her son Samuel Walter Ross who went to Aust with my G.Grandfather. I have been searching for her marriage to Samuel Ross and I have been unable to find any mention of her in census or anything, but I did find a possible death for her in 1853 at St Giles London. It would be a good idea to buy Samuel Walters birth cert to know for sure, as I was told the two elder children you found are those of Samuel Bennett Ross & Sarah Ann Godfrey. It looks like they were baptised after Samuel married Elizabeth Godfrey as it is well after their births and she is named as the mother on their baptisms. If Elizabeth was their mother they were illegitimate. I have Samuel and Elizabeths marriage certificate. They were married on 3 June 1854 at St Giles in the Fields. Samuel Bennett Ross widower aged 38 and Elizabeth Adelaide Godfrey spinster aged 25. I also have my G Grandfather John Eyles Ross' birth cert. Samuel was born in Birmingham, so perhaps that is another avenue to persue. Thanks so much for your help and suggestions. Nan Maryborough Qld On 10 July 2010 11:29, Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > Here are the baptisms of the two elder children > > Samuel Walter Ross b 6 March 1853 Baptism 20 Aug 1865 > Samuel Bennett Ross, Fringe Weaver > Elizabeth Adelaide Ross 4 Chapel Street Holy Trinity, Grays Inn Road > Camden > > Maria Christiana Ross b 17 April 1851 Baptism 19 Nov 1869 > Samuel Bennett Ross, Weaver > Elizabeth Ross 47 Devonshire St St George the Martyr, Queen Square > Camden > > Her birth does not seem to be on the FreeBMD index - it might pay you to > get Samuel Walter's birth certificate > to check who his mother is. > Births Mar 1853 > Ross Samuel Walter Clerkenwell 1b 450 > > Anne > South Australia > > Richard Bailey wrote: > > I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann > > Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 - > 55, > > after having two children, > > Maria in about 1852 St Giles and > > Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell > > > > I cannot find her death either, but I do have the certificate for his > > marriage to my G G Grandmother Elizabeth Adelaide Godfrey, Sarah's > cousin. > > > > In the 1861 census, Samuel aged 46 and Elizabeth aged 30 are living at 3 > > Bloomsbury St St. Giles Bloomsbury, with > > Maria aged 9 born London St Andrews > > Samuel Walter aged 8 born London Clerkenwell, > > John Eyles ( my G Grandfather) aged 5 born London St Giles > > Alice aged 1 born London St George the Martyr > > > > Samuel was a Fringe and Gaup Weaver. Can anyone explain what a gaup > weaver > > is? I have searched and haven't been able to find any reference for that. > > What type of weaving was done in London? > > > > Samuel Walter and John Eyles Ross came out toMelbourne Australia on the > > Lucibelle arriving in Dec 1865 They were aged 12 and 10. I haven't been > able > > to find the circumstances for their coming to Australia alone at such an > > age. It was too early for the Bernardo scheme, but I presume it was > through > > some other benevolent society. > > > > I haven't found Samuels death either, but in the 1871 census, Elizabeth > is > > the Head of Household, with sons Arthur J Ross 8, Walter G Ross 5, > living > > at 49 Devonshire St St. George the Martyr. and by the 1881 census she was > a > > widow. She had remarried in 1872 to John Read and he died in 1877. > > > > If anyone could give me some clues on this family, or if you may be > > connected, I would love to hear from you. > > > > Kind regards, > > Nan Bailey > > Queensland Aust > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI Nan, Just to add a little more to your confusion ;-))) I found another baptism that might fit with the couple who married in 1835. Baptism St. Peter Saffron Hill, Camden, July 23rd. 1843 Ellen dau. Samuel and Sarah Ross no. 24 Greville Street fathers occ. Coach Maker. Born Oct. 3rd. 1837. Being noted as Coach Maker could mean that he was in the coach making trade and that would cover a few trades, Carpenters & Joiners, Wheelwrights, Upholsterers, maybe this last occupation included the making of the fringing for the upholstery. I know this is stretching it a bit but I thought I would point this entry out to you in case it becomes relevant later on. Have you found Samuel Ross with any of his own family in the 1851 census? I tried to find him anywhere in England, born about 1816 but found nothing that looked like him at all. If you have found him in 1851 who is he with and where? Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain.