Hi Pip Welcome to the list. FreeBMD (www.freebmd.org.uk) will provide you with the references you need to order Emma's birth certificate and her parents' marriage certificate via www.gro.gov.uk. The latter will give you the names and occupations of both of their fathers which should help you move back a further generation. Hope this helps Caroline > > New to list. > > I am trying to trace ancestry of Emma SELLEY b. 18 Nov 1872, St. > Pancras, Middlesex, England. > > Her parents were Augustus SELLEY, b. abt 1839, Cheltenham, > Gloucestershire, England, and Emma (surname unknown), b. abt 1843, St > James, Middlesex, England. > > Would like to learn surname of Emma snr. and marriage details for > Augustus and Emma snr. > > Thanks. > > Pip. >