Hi Anne, Do you feel that this is not my Samuel Ross then? I am unsure about it with the different middle names and the early date. They would have been married a long time before they had children then. Nan On 10 July 2010 14:17, Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > No - before 1837, ages of bride and groom and parents' details were not > given on marriage entries. > It's definitely Samuel Robert not Samuel Bennett too - the image is quite > clear. > Anne > > Richard Bailey wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > > > This marriage does seem a bit too early Does the transcription give any > > parents names and ages of the bride& groom? My Samuel Bennett Ross was > born > > in Birmingham about 1815, to *I think* Samuel and Maria Ross. His father > was > > definiltly Samuel Ross gunmaker on his second marriage certificate. > > > > Nan > > > > On 10 July 2010 11:46, Anne Chambers<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > >> this marriage is much too early but it's the only Samuel Ross/Sarah Ann > >> Godfrey one on the LMA database (she > >> is transcribed as Godpey) > >> > >> Samuel Robert Ross 14 Apr 1835 Sarah Ann Godfrey > St > >> Pancras Parish Church > >> witnesses James Duncan, Mary Weathercott > >> > >> Where did you get the 1830 birthdate for Sarah Ann from ? > >> > >> Anne > >> South Australia > >> > >> Richard Bailey wrote: > >>> I am searching for the marriage of Samuel Ross b c 1815 and Sarah Ann > >>> Godfrey bc 1830. She was Samuels first wife and had died by about 1853 > - > >> 55, > >>> after having two children, > >>> Maria in about 1852 St Giles and > >>> Samuel Walter in 1853 Clerkenwell > >> ************************************** > >> Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > >> superfluous old messages in replies. > >> > >> List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ************************************** > > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It's the only Ross/Godfrey marriage I could find on Ancestry, apart from Samuel & Elizabeth's. It's also in the IGI. It's also very strange that S & E's banns were first published in 1852 at St Mary Lambeth but they didn't marry until 1854 - what church is shown on the marriage certificate ? Possibly Sarah Ann was still alive in 1852 and someone forbade the banns, so they had to wait until she died...and in the meantime, Samuel Walter was born. I can't find any of them under either surname in the 1851 census This could be Samuel's baptism: The Franciscan Register 1814 St Peter's Birmingham Samuel fs Samuelis & Mariae Ross, Aston: pat Maria Bethia Ross nat 31 July 5 Aug I have subs to Ancestry, Findmypast and Thegenealogist - I find that covers just about everything.. Anne Richard Bailey wrote: > Hi Anne, > > Do you feel that this is not my Samuel Ross then? I am unsure about it with > the different middle names and the early date. They would have been married > a long time before they had children then. > > Nan > > On 10 July 2010 14:17, Anne Chambers<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > >> No - before 1837, ages of bride and groom and parents' details were not >> given on marriage entries. >> It's definitely Samuel Robert not Samuel Bennett too - the image is quite >> clear. >> Anne >> >> Richard Bailey wrote: >>> Hi Anne, >>> >>> This marriage does seem a bit too early Does the transcription give any >>> parents names and ages of the bride& groom? My Samuel Bennett Ross was >> born >>> in Birmingham about 1815, to *I think* Samuel and Maria Ross. His father >> was >>> definiltly Samuel Ross gunmaker on his second marriage certificate. >>> >>> Nan >>> >>> On 10 July 2010 11:46, Anne Chambers<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: >>> >>>> this marriage is much too early but it's the only Samuel Ross/Sarah Ann >>>> Godfrey one on the LMA database (she >>>> is transcribed as Godpey) >>>> >>>> Samuel Robert Ross 14 Apr 1835 Sarah Ann Godfrey >> St >>>> Pancras Parish Church >>>> witnesses James Duncan, Mary Weathercott >>>> >>>> Where did you get the 1830 birthdate for Sarah Ann from ? >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> South Australia

The marriage of Samuel and Elizabeth was at the Parish Church St. Giles in the Fields Middlesex 3 June 1854, with witnesses being John Godfrey and W Taylor. the curate was Henry A. Digou ( I think) it is hard to read his writing That could well be my Samuels baptism, but what does the Aston: pat Maria Bethia Ross mean? I presume he was born 31 July and bapt 5 Aug 1814 Nan On 10 July 2010 16:02, Anne Chambers <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > It's the only Ross/Godfrey marriage I could find on Ancestry, apart from > Samuel & Elizabeth's. It's also in > the IGI. > > It's also very strange that S & E's banns were first published in 1852 at > St Mary Lambeth but they didn't > marry until 1854 - what church is shown on the marriage certificate ? > Possibly Sarah Ann was still alive in > 1852 and someone forbade the banns, so they had to wait until she > died...and in the meantime, Samuel Walter > was born. I can't find any of them under either surname in the 1851 census > > This could be Samuel's baptism: > The Franciscan Register 1814 > St Peter's Birmingham > Samuel fs Samuelis & Mariae Ross, Aston: pat Maria Bethia Ross nat 31 July > 5 Aug > > I have subs to Ancestry, Findmypast and Thegenealogist - I find that covers > just about everything.. > > Anne > > Richard Bailey wrote: > > Hi Anne, > > > > Do you feel that this is not my Samuel Ross then? I am unsure about it > with > > the different middle names and the early date. They would have been > married > > a long time before they had children then. > > > > Nan > > > > On 10 July 2010 14:17, Anne Chambers<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > >> No - before 1837, ages of bride and groom and parents' details were not > >> given on marriage entries. > >> It's definitely Samuel Robert not Samuel Bennett too - the image is > quite > >> clear. > >> Anne > >> > >> Richard Bailey wrote: > >>> Hi Anne, > >>> > >>> This marriage does seem a bit too early Does the transcription give any > >>> parents names and ages of the bride& groom? My Samuel Bennett Ross > was > >> born > >>> in Birmingham about 1815, to *I think* Samuel and Maria Ross. His > father > >> was > >>> definiltly Samuel Ross gunmaker on his second marriage certificate. > >>> > >>> Nan > >>> > >>> On 10 July 2010 11:46, Anne Chambers<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> this marriage is much too early but it's the only Samuel Ross/Sarah > Ann > >>>> Godfrey one on the LMA database (she > >>>> is transcribed as Godpey) > >>>> > >>>> Samuel Robert Ross 14 Apr 1835 Sarah Ann Godfrey > >> St > >>>> Pancras Parish Church > >>>> witnesses James Duncan, Mary Weathercott > >>>> > >>>> Where did you get the 1830 birthdate for Sarah Ann from ? > >>>> > >>>> Anne > >>>> South Australia > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** > superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >