Hmmm! It's certainly more likely than anything else I've found. A marriage certificate could possibly simply have "Gent" for Edward's father's occupation as do several other certificates I've purchased. The only explanation possible for Edward, Charlotte and Edwin not being found together in any census is surely that they left the country? I do know that the LAWRENCE family in Chile were into wine growing and selling. I will probably order the certificate, though, unless something else turns up in the next few days. Thank so much anyhow, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chambers" <anne.chambers@bigpond.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > That seems a bit of a stretch to me - none are particularly uncommon names. I'd be inclined to get the > marriage certificate to see what father William's occupation was - if it's along the lines of victualler, > vintner or wine merchant, then you'd know you had the right one. > Marriages Mar 1839 > DOISY Charlotte Caroline St. Jas. Westr. 1 92 > LAWRANCE Edward St. Jas. Westr. 1 92 (transcribed as St Jus Westn but definitely St Jas Westr.) > > Anne > South Australia > > William and Mary are in the 1851 census > > Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: >> Thanks, Anne and Caroline. I'm moving foward with this at last thanks to your help. Yes, I do have the Will >> but Edward is not mentioned at all which led me to think he must have died young. Now I have found on >> familysearch the marriage between Edward LAWRENCE, son of William, at St James, Westminster on 10 March >> 1839 to Charlotte Caroline DOISY. Although Edward would have been only 15-16, I now believe it must be the >> right family as I can't find any of them in any census. Thanks so much to both of you. >> >> Jan > > > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There could be lots of reasons why they aren't on a census - it's not uncommon - mistranscription, misspelling, missed out...lots of misses ;) Edward's occupation when Edwin was baptised was Postman (I checked again in case it was Potman but it wasn't) which is unconected with the wine business. I just can't see the likelihood of a 15 year old marrying (if that is the case, the licence should say 'with permission of his father' or something like that) and then going with his wife and baby to Chile all in the space of two years. I think this may be Charlotte: Deaths Mar 1851 Lawrence Charlotte Caroline James St West 1 98 Anne Neil & Jan Hearn wrote: > Hmmm! It's certainly more likely than anything else I've found. A marriage certificate could possibly > simply have "Gent" for Edward's father's occupation as do several other certificates I've purchased. The > only explanation possible for Edward, Charlotte and Edwin not being found together in any census is surely > that they left the country? I do know that the LAWRENCE family in Chile were into wine growing and selling. > I will probably order the certificate, though, unless something else turns up in the next few days. > > Thank so much anyhow, Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Chambers"<anne.chambers@bigpond.com> > To:<middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin > LAWRENCE > > >> That seems a bit of a stretch to me - none are particularly uncommon names. I'd be inclined to get the >> marriage certificate to see what father William's occupation was - if it's along the lines of >> victualler, vintner or wine merchant, then you'd know you had the right one. Marriages Mar 1839 DOISY >> Charlotte Caroline St. Jas. Westr. 1 92 LAWRANCE Edward St. Jas. Westr. 1 92 (transcribed as St Jus >> Westn but definitely St Jas Westr.) >> >> Anne South Australia >> >> William and Mary are in the 1851 census >> >> Neil& Jan Hearn wrote: >>> Thanks, Anne and Caroline. I'm moving foward with this at last thanks to your help. Yes, I do have the >>> Will but Edward is not mentioned at all which led me to think he must have died young. Now I have found >>> on familysearch the marriage between Edward LAWRENCE, son of William, at St James, Westminster on 10 >>> March 1839 to Charlotte Caroline DOISY. Although Edward would have been only 15-16, I now believe it >>> must be the right family as I can't find any of them in any census. Thanks so much to both of you. >>> >>> Jan

I'm confused - is it Edwin or Edward > From: neil.hearn3@bigpond.com > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:12:36 +1000 > Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE > > ! It's certainly more likely than anything else I've found. A marriage certificate could possibly simply have "Gent" for Edward's father's occupation as do several other certificates I've purchased. The only explanation possible for Edward, Charlotte and Edwin not being found together in any census is surely that they left the country? I do know that the LAWRENCE family in Chile were into wine growing and selling. I will probably order the certificate, though, unless something else turns up in the next few days. > > Thank so much anyhow, > Jan _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

There was a baptism for an Edwin in 1840 with father Edward. William had a son Edward b 1824 but he would have been 15 when Edwin was born, so probably not the father of that child. Jan is trying to connect an Edwin b 1840 to William but it doesn't look as if this is the connection. Anne jan royal wrote: > > > I'm confused - is it Edwin or Edward > > > > > >> From: neil.hearn3@bigpond.com >> To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:12:36 +1000 >> Subject: Re: [MDX] Edwin LAWRENCE >> >> ! It's certainly more likely than anything else I've found. A marriage certificate could possibly simply have "Gent" for Edward's father's occupation as do several other certificates I've purchased. The only explanation possible for Edward, Charlotte and Edwin not being found together in any census is surely that they left the country? I do know that the LAWRENCE family in Chile were into wine growing and selling. I will probably order the certificate, though, unless something else turns up in the next few days. >> >> Thank so much anyhow, >> Jan > > > _________________________________________________________________ > View photos of singles in your area! Looking for a hot date? > http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/ > ************************************** > Send your List messages using **PLAIN TEXT** and always **TRIM AWAY** superfluous old messages in replies. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >