Hi Carolyn It was quite common to be moved from one regiment to another and get more than one number Generally the medals were issued in the last regiment they served in (ie that number was the one stamped on the medal rim) The order is generally the first on the medal card was the first served in Service numbers were issued from each regiment so could be duplicated one unit to another, hence why you find another man with the same regimental number, there would be no connection between the men The RFC, air force or rather the pilots, aircrew etc was under the Army until April 1918 As you say approximately two thirds of service records were lost in a WW2 fire However records for the later RAF were separate to those If you go to the National Archives you may find this of interest Download size approximately 0 MB Add to basket sets a cookie Add to basket Now Accepting Paypal View at The National Archives for free Reference: AIR 76/360/119 Description: Name Moss, George Frederick Date of Birth: 22 January 1899 Date: [1918-1919] Held by: The National Archives, Kew Former references: in its original department: Book No.169 part 1 Legal status: Public Record Downloadable for a small fee Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 18/04/2014 23:08, Carolyn McCartney wrote: > I am trying to find my grandfather's military army records on Ancestry but > have drawn a blank. He appears to have had two regimental numbers (is this > always the case when you moved regiments?) but when I omit all details > including his name and only put in his regimental number it comes up with > someone else's details - a Frederick Ham. My grandfather was George > Frederick MOSS b 1899 Stamford Hill, Hackney. He was L/Cpl 25051 51st Royal > Warwicks but also L/Cpl 535011 216th Infry Bdr, Signal Office. The
I am trying to find my grandfather's military army records on Ancestry but have drawn a blank. He appears to have had two regimental numbers (is this always the case when you moved regiments?) but when I omit all details including his name and only put in his regimental number it comes up with someone else's details - a Frederick Ham. My grandfather was George Frederick MOSS b 1899 Stamford Hill, Hackney. He was L/Cpl 25051 51st Royal Warwicks but also L/Cpl 535011 216th Infry Bdr, Signal Office. The regimental number could possibly 538011. The first numeral one could possibly be a 7 so I have also tried 535071 and 538071. I don't know which regiment he was in first. He survived the war but died age 47 in 1946. My aunt had thought her father was in the Royal Flying Corps as he flew solo at one point but either she has got it all wrong or he had some connection with planes whilst in the army. Is this possible in these regiments? She has a photo of him standing beside the wing of a plane but cannot find it at the moment. I realise that a large number of the WW1 service records were destroyed in a fire and that that is probably why I cannot find him but if anyone can possibly help in answering my questions above I would be most grateful as his daughter (my aunt) is very elderly and very ill and I have promised her I would see what information I could find. Carolyn
> George CLEAVER's age and birth place differ on the 1851 and 1871 > census, as does his name. > > In 1851 he's Richard, b abt 1821, in Marylebone. In 1871 he's George > b abt 1825 in Bayswater. He died either in St Pancras June qtr 1871 > age 46 (b abt 1825 or in St Giles Dec qtr 1878 age 57 (b abt 1821). Of the two George Cleavers in 1851 who are tailors, one b Devizes Wilts c 1811 apparently emigrates to Hobart, Tasmania, Australia in 1854. He is married to an Emma from Henley and their children Rosaline, James,Henry, Edwin, Frederick are also annotated as having emigrated in 1854. The other b c1823/5 Bayswater> is first married to Ann (??OHara) b Chelsea and living in St Pancras with nephew John aged 2. By 1871, next sighting, Ann is dead and has been replaced in 1864 July 8 by Emma Crane At marriage, George is said to be son of Thomas, a tailor, Emma of William, a shoemaker. George is nowhere obvious in 1861 and I have tried a fair number of permutations. In 1871 the couple have (George's) son Richard 18,(porter to ginger beer manufacturer) Emma 13, Frederick 11, Alice 4 Elizabeth 4 Frederick b 25 Jan 1861 and the twins b 1868 are jointly baptised in 1869 as children of George and Emma, though this could be an oversight, as she is mother to the twins. George son of Thomas and Charlotte was a tailor is 17 in 1841, plus John aged 15..(St Giles) In 1851 John is married to Louisa, with son George aged 1. Thomas is still alive in 1861,, aged 73, a tailor, b Banbury, with Charlotte and also in the household is their younger son, John 35, his wife Louisa and grandchildren Charlotte 14, John 12, Charles 6, Rosina 4, Henry 11 months EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society
Rita Both marriages are on the London records on Ancestry. They weren't sisters. I can't see any baptisms of children. I can't attach the images but here are the marriage transcripts Name: Samuel Cornelius Paul Woodward Spouse Name: Sarah White Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 May 1877 Parish: Camberwell St George Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Woodward Spouse Father: John White Register Type: Parish Register ================ Name: Samuel Cornelius Paul Woodward Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Age: 38 Spouse Name: Lucy White Spouse Age: 28 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 17 Apr 1892 Parish: Camberwell St George Borough: Southwark Father Name: William Woodward Spouse Father: David White Register Type: Parish Register Bill Deverell -----Original Message----- From: rita woodcock Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 3:15 PM To: MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] -Re:- Samuel Paul Cornelius Woodward Hello List, I am trying to trace a Samuel Paul Cornelius Woodward's children, parents and siblings. I know he was born in either Kensington or Notting Hill in the 1st Qtr of 1854. and that he married a Sarah White in June 1877 in Camberwell. I have also found one child Edith born in 1880 but I think there were more children.It also looks like he married for the 2nd time to a Lucy White. Maybe this was Sarah's sister? I believe his father was a William Woodward, who was a Farmer, but so far I have been unable to confirm this, so any help would be very much appreciated. Kind Regards Rita . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello List, I am trying to trace a Samuel Paul Cornelius Woodward's children, parents and siblings. I know he was born in either Kensington or Notting Hill in the 1st Qtr of 1854. and that he married a Sarah White in June 1877 in Camberwell. I have also found one child Edith born in 1880 but I think there were more children.It also looks like he married for the 2nd time to a Lucy White. Maybe this was Sarah's sister? I believe his father was a William Woodward, who was a Farmer, but so far I have been unable to confirm this, so any help would be very much appreciated. Kind Regards Rita
George CLEAVER's age and birth place differ on the 1851 and 1871 census, as does his name. In 1851 he's Richard, b abt 1821, in Marylebone. In 1871 he's George b abt 1825 in Bayswater. He died either in St Pancras June qtr 1871 age 46 (b abt 1825 or in St Giles Dec qtr 1878 age 57 (b abt 1821). I have found on Ancestry two possible baptisms but I'm not sure either of them is correct. The first is the son of Archibald William and Sarah CLEAVER, b 29 May, bapt 10 July 1821, St Luke's, Chelsea. Archibald is a shopkeeper. The second is the son of George and Elizabeth CLEAVER, b 13 Aug, bapt 9 Sept 1827, St Matthew's Bethnal Green. George snr is a shoemaker. They also had a son Thomas George born 1 Sept, bapt 9 Oct 1825. George snr is given as a cordwainer. What are the chances of the son of a shopkeeper or shoemaker/cordwainer becoming a tailor? -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
On 16/04/2014 22:52, Lawrence Pearse wrote: > Hello Connie - I may have made some progress for you, unless you > already know all that follows but hadn't included it in either of > your emails. > > There is no reason to take as fact the age recorded for Henry > Richard on marriage; he may well have been trying to hide his > youth, either from his bride or from the vicar who married them. > After all, his bride was already pregnant at the time of their > marriage - their first son, Henry, was registered in Jun q 1869, no > more than 6 months later. (The family is recorded in the 1871 > census in Cumberland Street, St Pancras.) > > So the fact that a Henry Richard Joyce was born on 20 January 1852 > to a printer father, William, and his wife Ann in St Pancras is not > far from correlating to the man who married supposedly aged 18 at > the end of 1868 given the identicality of the father's occupation. > The birth certificate (when you can afford it) would probably not > offer you any proof of whether or not this is your man, though it > would give the mother's maiden name and an address or two which > might help in searching the 1851 census. Thank you /very/ much for your reply. This is the first time I have had someone so young marry. I'm not sure whether to try to get Henry Richard's birth certificate first or Sarah's. I had a look at the William/Ann PEMBER marriage but am not sure about it. Both William jnr and his father, William, are given as plumbers, not printers. Also William snr makes a mark. I would have expected him to have signed. Ann was the widowed daughter of John FRANCIS. I'll have a look later to see if I can find Ann FRANCIS to see if I can find out how old she was. Thanks to you finding Sarah's mother, I have found Emma in all the censuses from 1851 to 1911, except the 1861 now. I believe there are a number of pages from the 1861 census that are missing. I have all Sarah's known siblings but haven't followed them down yet. I had a look at the Joseph George CLEAVER/Emma PHILLIPS marriage but he was a French Polisher and she was a minor. I had a look on FamilySearch for Emmas born in Wantage around 1826+/- 1 and found six (DIXON, ORMOND, GOTT, CLIFFORD, DAVIS and CHANDLER). Henry's mother will probably turn out to be Emma DAVIS, d/o John and Elizabeth! I'll have a look for possible marriages but it may not be any of them. I think I may have found Sarah in the 1851 but discounted her because her father's name was wrong and I didn't have her mother's name at the time. I had found the deaths for Sarah and Henry so we are in agreement there which is good. I hadn't found Herny's remarriage though so thank you for that. Thank you again for your help. I'm grateful to you. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/
Dave, Looks like 2 days for 9.95 GBP. unless Charani has a special offer from another site. She is usually right on the ball. Cheers Carolyn Australia -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, 17 April 2014 10:27 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] British Newspaper Archive Can't find the offer of 7days for 1 GBP on the site!! > -----Original Message----- > From: charani.b@gmail.com > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:38:03 +0100 > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDX] British Newspaper Archive > > The British Newspaper Archive is making a special Easter offer of just > *1 GBP* for 7 days access. > ____________________________________________________________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just a big thank you to everyone who helped me to find the newspaper report of the coroner's inquest into the death of James DENTON. James was the defendant in an action brought by an employee at Bow County Court. He was seen to be very ill whilst in the witness box, he was very stout, and had great difficulty in breathing amongst other things. He was taken outside by his son into the fresh air but refused to allow a doctor to be called. He collapsed in a cab on the way home and was found to be dead by a doctor who was then called. Death was due to heart failure. So, James didn't actually die in the court but it is obvious that his death occurred as a result of the stress of the court case. Very sad. Pauline in Colchester Britain's First City.
On 17/04/2014 14:43, Carolyn . wrote: > Dave, Looks like 2 days for 9.95 GBP. unless Charani has a special offer > from another site. She is usually right on the ball. Thank you for the compliment :) The offer was apparently withdrawn, possibly because too many people took them up on it. Shame because it would have been useful. Last time I looked the monthly sub was still on offer at 9.95 GBP. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
Hi Carolyn The *standard* subscriptions listed are (ie not special offers) 12 month £79.95 1 month £9.95 There are also 7 day and 2 day subs which appear to be now redundant as they are limited to an amount of credits and work out more expensive than the one month Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 17/04/2014 14:43, Carolyn . wrote: > Dave, Looks like 2 days for 9.95 GBP. unless Charani has a special offer > from another site. She is usually right on the ball. Cheers Carolyn > Australia
No, the section with the offer no longer has it showing. So either it's run out or it's reached the limit on the number of people taking it up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave" <dave6023@inbox.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [MDX] British Newspaper Archive > Can't find the offer of 7days for 1 GBP on the site!! > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: charani.b@gmail.com >> Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:38:03 +0100 >> To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [MDX] British Newspaper Archive >> >> The British Newspaper Archive is making a special Easter offer of just >> *1 GBP* for 7 days access. >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more! > > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous > old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014 04:26:30 -0800 Dave <dave6023@inbox.com> wrote: Hello Dave, >Can't find the offer of 7days for 1 GBP on the site!! It was there this morning but seems to have been withdrawn sometime after 9:45 (the approx time I looked, when it was still there). -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" People stare like they've seen a ghost Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999
The British Newspaper Archive is making a special Easter offer of just *1 GBP* for 7 days access. They also have their monthly subscription for 9.95 GBP, instead of 29.95 GBP. This doesn't seem to be a one off or special offer. https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/account/register?countrykey=0&voucherclaimant=false&gift=false&nextpage=%2fpayments&rememberme=false&cookietracking=false&partnershipkey=0&newsletter=true®isterreason=none or http://preview.tinyurl.com/bxh488r The British Newspaper Archive is part of BrightSolid and is also available via FindMyPast. It looks as though they've rejigged this site as well. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk
Can't find the offer of 7days for 1 GBP on the site!! > -----Original Message----- > From: charani.b@gmail.com > Sent: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 09:38:03 +0100 > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDX] British Newspaper Archive > > The British Newspaper Archive is making a special Easter offer of just > *1 GBP* for 7 days access. > ____________________________________________________________ GET FREE 5GB EMAIL - Check out spam free email with many cool features! Visit http://www.inbox.com/email to find out more!
Hello Connie - I may have made some progress for you, unless you already know all that follows but hadn't included it in either of your emails. There is no reason to take as fact the age recorded for Henry Richard on marriage; he may well have been trying to hide his youth, either from his bride or from the vicar who married them. After all, his bride was already pregnant at the time of their marriage - their first son, Henry, was registered in Jun q 1869, no more than 6 months later. (The family is recorded in the 1871 census in Cumberland Street, St Pancras.) So the fact that a Henry Richard Joyce was born on 20 January 1852 to a printer father, William, and his wife Ann in St Pancras is not far from correlating to the man who married supposedly aged 18 at the end of 1868 given the identicality of the father's occupation. The birth certificate (when you can afford it) would probably not offer you any proof of whether or not this is your man, though it would give the mother's maiden name and an address or two which might help in searching the 1851 census. I also note that a William Joyce married an Ann Pember on 1 June 1851 (unfortunately after the 1851 census) in St Pancras - and Ann would have been pregnant with Henry Richard if he indeed were their son. Interestingly one record gives Ann's surname as Pember or Francis, which suggests either that she was a widower or that her father and mother were not married at the time of her birth, with (probably) her father being a Pember and her mother a Francis. FreeBMD does not record the alternative surname in the marriage record. Unfortunately I have not been able to find William Joyce or Ann Pember in the 1851 census, nor William and Ann Joyce and any family in the 1861. I have not yet had time to look for them beyond 1861. There is a bit more progress on Henry Richard's wife Sarah. Her family are recorded in 1871 in the same house as she gave for her address on the 1868 marriage certificate. Father was George, 46, a tailor, and mother Emma, 46. They had 5 other children, the earliest of whom is recorded as being born in Dec q 1852 in St Pancras. Now in the 1851 census there is a Sarah Cleaver living in Colville Place, St Pancras, aged 9 months - which would fit with the birth record of Sep q 1850. The father is recorded as Richard Cleaver, 30, a tailor, and the mother Emma, 26. I find it hard not to believe that this is the same family, though why the father's name is Richard and not George I cannot explain. Interestingly the oldest son of the family recorded in 1871 is Richard. I cannot find the marriage of the George/Richard and Emma Cleaver, in either the 1840s or 1850s. Nor can I find the family in 1861. By 1881 one of their youngest daughters, Alice, born 1867, was a visitor in the house of her by then married sister Emma, who had married Sidney Nash in 1878. Obviously when you are able to afford it a birth certificate (for Sarah or one of the other children) would give the mother's maiden name and the forename of the father. Finally I assume that you have followed Henry Richard Joyce and his wives through the censuses and to their deaths. Sarah Joyce nee Cleaver died in 1897 and Henry remarried in 1898 to Caroline Clark. Henry and Caroline were in Hammersmith in 1911. Caroline died in 1915, Henry probably in 1922, both in St Pancras. I hope this helps. Good luck! Lawrence > Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:36:34 +0100 > From: connie.sparrer@gmail.com > To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > Subject: [MDX] Double trouble part 2: Sarah CLEAVER b1850, m 1868 > > According to the marriage entry on Ancestry Sarah was 18 and her > father was George, a tailor. > > There are three possibilities for her: > > Births Jun 1849 > CLEAVER Sarah Stepney 2 543 > Births Sep 1850 > Cleaver Sarah St.Pancras 1 388 > Births Dec 1852 > CLEAVER Sarah Whitechapel 1c 348 > > The second is the bet fit but neither of the others could be ruled > out. There's also the possibility she was not born in London as she > later claimed on the censuses. > > I haven't been able to find a baptism for her or any census entries > for her before her marriage. I haven't been able to find her father, > George on any census or a possible marriage. A George CLEAVER > witnessed the marriage, possibly Sarah's father but could be a > brother, uncle, cousin or other relative. > > I'm finding nothing on Ancestry or FamilySearch. > > Again can anyone find this family please? Again, buying the > certificate is not a possibility at the moment. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. 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Anyone aware of Poplar orphanages/records c.1901.probably CoE. Seeking to find what happened to Amy Edith Broome, b.1890 Poplar. 1901 census not found (believed never submitted) Sister to George Clarke, variety star, Father George Broome had Horse & Groom hotel behind Buckingham Palace 1911+. Any comment appreciated. Les H., Napier, NZ.
thanks everyone for your help and suggestions, and especial thanks to Nivard cheers Sheila L -----Original Message----- From: Sheila and Brian Longden Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:22 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Harold WRIGHT 1918-1923 Nivard, thank you so much cheers Sheila L -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Harold WRIGHT 1918-1923 Hi Sheila Nottingham Evening Post September 11 1923 HAND IN HAND TO DEATH CHILDREN RUN DOWN BY MOTOR LORRY Three little boys all aged four years, were walking hand in hand across Forest road, Walthamstow, when they were knocked down by a motor lorry. One of the boys William Griffiths crawled, unhurt, except for slight bruises, from under the vehicle, but the other two, Arthur William Featherstone and Harold Wright, were killed instantly. The driver of the lorry, John George Glennie, at the inquest at Tottenham yesterday, said his speed was seven miles an hour. He tried to avoid the children, mounted teh pavement, and drove on to a piece of waste ground. In recording a verdict of "Accidental death" the coroner exonerated the driver from all blame. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/04/2014 10:15, Sheila and Brian Longden wrote: > Can any one suggest a way I can find out information about the death of my > uncle Harold Wright. born 1918 DOA at Prince of Wales Hospital Tottenham > on 7 September 1923. (I am not 100% sure even of that date because I have > a > family photograph dated a couple of days after this date!) > > Family history states he was killed when a vehicle went out of control > and > mounted the pavement killing Harold and several other children. Supposedly > they were all buried together in a mass grave but I have no idea where. I > have no one living from that generation that I can ask and I live in > Australia so can't physically search myself. I have tried searching > newspaper archives with no luck. and can't even find any other records to > indicate he was even born, let alone died. I do however have photos of him > so do know he existed. > > cheers Sheila L . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Nivard, thank you so much cheers Sheila L -----Original Message----- From: Nivard Ovington Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:24 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Harold WRIGHT 1918-1923 Hi Sheila Nottingham Evening Post September 11 1923 HAND IN HAND TO DEATH CHILDREN RUN DOWN BY MOTOR LORRY Three little boys all aged four years, were walking hand in hand across Forest road, Walthamstow, when they were knocked down by a motor lorry. One of the boys William Griffiths crawled, unhurt, except for slight bruises, from under the vehicle, but the other two, Arthur William Featherstone and Harold Wright, were killed instantly. The driver of the lorry, John George Glennie, at the inquest at Tottenham yesterday, said his speed was seven miles an hour. He tried to avoid the children, mounted teh pavement, and drove on to a piece of waste ground. In recording a verdict of "Accidental death" the coroner exonerated the driver from all blame. Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 10/04/2014 10:15, Sheila and Brian Longden wrote: > Can any one suggest a way I can find out information about the death of my > uncle Harold Wright. born 1918 DOA at Prince of Wales Hospital Tottenham > on 7 September 1923. (I am not 100% sure even of that date because I have > a > family photograph dated a couple of days after this date!) > > Family history states he was killed when a vehicle went out of control > and > mounted the pavement killing Harold and several other children. Supposedly > they were all buried together in a mass grave but I have no idea where. I > have no one living from that generation that I can ask and I live in > Australia so can't physically search myself. I have tried searching > newspaper archives with no luck. and can't even find any other records to > indicate he was even born, let alone died. I do however have photos of him > so do know he existed. > > cheers Sheila L . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
sorry..It's late...of course you need that. All I have is heresay. as to location of birth which was West Ham, Tottenham North London Parents were Edward Terrence WRIGHT and Rose Alice JACOBS cheers Sheila L -----Original Message----- From: mvs Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:01 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] Harold WRIGHT 1918-1923 Hi Sheila How about a few more details please. Where born, parents etc. Cheers Marcelle Western Australia -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sheila and Brian Longden Sent: Thursday, 10 April 2014 5:15 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: [MDX] Harold WRIGHT 1918-1923 Can any one suggest a way I can find out information about the death of my uncle Harold Wright. born 1918 DOA at Prince of Wales Hospital Tottenham on 7 September 1923. (I am not 100% sure even of that date because I have a family photograph dated a couple of days after this date!) Family history states he was killed when a vehicle went out of control and mounted the pavement killing Harold and several other children. Supposedly they were all buried together in a mass grave but I have no idea where. I have no one living from that generation that I can ask and I live in Australia so can't physically search myself. I have tried searching newspaper archives with no luck. and can't even find any other records to indicate he was even born, let alone died. I do however have photos of him so do know he existed. cheers Sheila L . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message