Am now looking at British Newspaper Archives and find the Morning Chronicle reporting on 29 Aug 1833 on the marriage of the Earl of Uxbridge at St Peter's church Eaton Square. So the Westminster archives' registers do not include the earlier events. More to look for. JK On 28 May 2014 15:00, johnfhhgen <johnfhhgen@uwclub.net> wrote: > On 28/05/2014 11:00 AM, J K gen wrote: >> It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to >> restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of duplication >> or chapelry etc. >> Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself was formed from St Martin in the Fields. >> JK > I was going to refer you to > http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Westminster/churches.htm > but checking reveals it is time I updated it! > > The usual quick key to establishment of a church district as a separate > parish is the date of the commencement of the marriage register, as > until a church became a parish church in its own right marriages could > not be solemnized there (after Banns) nor could it have its own marriage > register. Although all Baptisms in a parish has to be recorded in the > parish register at the parish church, most "new" churches/chapels within > a parish found it conveneient to also keep their own baptism registers, > copied up at intervals into the parish register, hence the apparent > duplication. IIRC, at St.Pancras this was done quarterly or even > annually, so the date run in the parent register is often much out of synch. > The precise date of he establishment of a new parish can be ascertained > from the relevant Order in Council or Act, and also from Young's "Guide > to the Local Administrative Units of England (1979). However, the > latter, which shows that St.Peter, Eaton Square, became a parish in > 1830, confuses its becoming an ecclesiastical district (still within the > parish of St.George's, Han.Sq.) in 1830, with its actual becoming a new > parish subsequent to the New Parishes Act of 1843. > Kind regards, > John Henley > > >> On 28 May 2014 10:14, J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear >>> in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the >>> "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. >>> I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives >>> contains the relevant dates. >>> John >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----From: "J K gen" >>>> Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 >>>> Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. >>>> Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? >>>> Thanks JK >>> > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 28/05/2014 11:00 AM, J K gen wrote: > It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to > restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of duplication > or chapelry etc. > Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself was formed from St Martin in the Fields. > JK I was going to refer you to http://homepages.gold.ac.uk/genuki/MDX/Westminster/churches.htm but checking reveals it is time I updated it! The usual quick key to establishment of a church district as a separate parish is the date of the commencement of the marriage register, as until a church became a parish church in its own right marriages could not be solemnized there (after Banns) nor could it have its own marriage register. Although all Baptisms in a parish has to be recorded in the parish register at the parish church, most "new" churches/chapels within a parish found it conveneient to also keep their own baptism registers, copied up at intervals into the parish register, hence the apparent duplication. IIRC, at St.Pancras this was done quarterly or even annually, so the date run in the parent register is often much out of synch. The precise date of he establishment of a new parish can be ascertained from the relevant Order in Council or Act, and also from Young's "Guide to the Local Administrative Units of England (1979). However, the latter, which shows that St.Peter, Eaton Square, became a parish in 1830, confuses its becoming an ecclesiastical district (still within the parish of St.George's, Han.Sq.) in 1830, with its actual becoming a new parish subsequent to the New Parishes Act of 1843. Kind regards, John Henley > On 28 May 2014 10:14, J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear >> in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the >> "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. >> I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives >> contains the relevant dates. >> John >> >> ----- Original Message -----From: "J K gen" >>> Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 >>> Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. >>> Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? >>> Thanks JK >>

It was a commissioners church built between 1824 and 1827. A fire in 1836 caused damage, but I cannot seem to find out how long it took to restore. Westminster archives online info pdf shows them holding registers of baptisms 1831-1965 and marriages 1845-1904. No mention of duplication or chapelry etc. Seems to have been formed out of St George Hanover Square, which itself was formed from St Martin in the Fields. JK On 28 May 2014 10:14, J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> wrote: > I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear > in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the > "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. > > I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives > contains the relevant dates. > > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J K gen" <gen2mail@gmail.com> > To: "Middx list" <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:44 PM > Subject: [MDX] St Peter, Eaton Square and St George, Hanover Square > > >> Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 >> Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. >> >> Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? >> >> Thanks >> JK > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've come across two baptisms of interest to me, 1831 and 1834, which appear in both registers. St George's, Hanover Square was, as I understand, the "parent" church. I assume St. Peter's, Eaton Square was a chapelry. I think one of the online guides from the website of Westminster Archives contains the relevant dates. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "J K gen" <gen2mail@gmail.com> To: "Middx list" <Middlesex_County_UK@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:44 PM Subject: [MDX] St Peter, Eaton Square and St George, Hanover Square > Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 > Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. > > Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? > > Thanks > JK

Checking for a baptism on FMP I find entries for Anne VINE baptised 24 Oct 1841 apparently duplicated between these two churches. Does anyone happen to know the period of overlap? and why? Thanks JK

I am interested in contacting any descendants of BENJAMIN and MATILDA WOODMAN who had all their children baptised at St. Margaret, Uxbridge. Middlesex. In particular I am interested in their son JAMES born 1796 and baptised in St Margaret. He had all of his 4 children baptised there too. In hopes. April. New Forest

Hi Les, Was this child older or younger than your grandmother? Do you have any clues as to his date of birth? After my mother died I found a photograph among her possessions of a young man that no-one in the family knew anything about, although it is inscribed to her from her brother Ernie. Later when searching for graves in a churchyard where my mother had vaguely said members of the family were buried I found a small headstone with his name on it which identified him as being the son of my grandparents. It eventually turned out that he was my grandmother's first child born two years before she was married. He was not however my grandfather's child as I have a record of when my grandmother first 'walked out' with him which was post the birth of this child. He was obviously brought up as my mother's brother but he died in the 1920s and she never mentioned a word about him to me and none of my cousins or relatives had ever heard of him either! Why it should all have been so secret I have no idea but obviously he was sort of adopted by my grandfather as his grave marker identifies him as being Ernest Peachey BALLS, my grandmother's maiden name was PEACHEY and my grandfather was Simon BALLS. I don't know if that is of any help to you, but it may be that the relationship of your mother to her ' possibly adopted' brother was closer than you think. People were very concerned about keeping up appearances then, but my mother must have wanted me to find out as she also left me letters and postcards which refer to her brother Ernest. Pauline Taylor. Colchester. Britain's First City. -------------------------------------------------- From: <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:16 PM To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Subject: [MDX] ADOPTION RECORDS ? > I was wondering if you know if it's possible to trace adoption records > - > probably from around 1915/20? There is a family member on my paternal > grandmother's side who was apparently a relation (possibly cousin) but > was > adopted by my GGM and brought up with my grandmother as her brother. > From > what I know it was kept very quiet and no one seems to know what his > surname was pre-adoption, so I don't have much to go on. Les H., > Napier, > New Zealand. > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous > old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

HI Les, I hope you won't be offended by my suggestion. But could the child have been a illegitimate child of someone within the family and your Gt. Grandmother brought the child up as her own to avoid gossip? One of my grandmother's remarried after the death of my grandfather. On the marriage her new husband put his father as James C-------- boat builder. This was in the North East of England not Middlesex but I give it as an example. I looked for this man and his family in the censuses, to find him as a child. I found him as a young boy noted as the grandson of James C------, Boat Builder, and his wife. I then got a copy of his birth certificate which showed his mother to have been Mary C-------- and no father's name on the certificate. Mary C-------- was the daughter of James and his wife, she married a couple of years after the birth of her son but left him with her parents when she went to live with her husband. I have always wondered if Mary's husband knew that the boy was her illegitimate child and not a "brother"of hers. I can only imagine that the grandparents told the neighbours that the little boy was a late child, the grandmother was in her mid forties when he was born. But on official forms they seem to have been honest and put him down as grandson. The family were prominent in the town where they lived because of the fishing cobles they had been building for many many years. An illegitimate child would probably have been an embarrassment for them, better to hide the fact amongst friend and neighbours perhaps by passing him off as a late child of the grandparents. I somehow doubt that the boy/man ever knew that his "sister" was in fact his true mother and believed that his grandparents were his parents. Or did he know the truth and just put his grandfather's name down on his marriage to my grandma in order to avoid his own blushes at not knowing his father's name? Could something like this have been the case? have you tried looking for a birth of the boy in the GRO index under the family surname of your Gt. grandparents. Would Gt. Grandmother have been young enough at the time the child would have been born to have passed him off as her own child. Did she have a child of her own who might have been the mother, or even father, of that child? The fact that you say it was kept very quiet might be the clue you need to explore. If it was all above board then why keep it so quiet? Regards Jenny DeAngelis <<Probably from around 1915/20? There is a family member on my paternal grandmother's side who was apparently a relation (possibly cousin) but was adopted by my GGM and brought up with my grandmother as her brother. From what I know it was kept very quiet and no one seems to know what his surname was pre-adoption, so I don't have much to go on. Les H., >>

I was wondering if you know if it's possible to trace adoption records - probably from around 1915/20? There is a family member on my paternal grandmother's side who was apparently a relation (possibly cousin) but was adopted by my GGM and brought up with my grandmother as her brother. From what I know it was kept very quiet and no one seems to know what his surname was pre-adoption, so I don't have much to go on. Les H., Napier, New Zealand.

On 22/05/2014 21:16, ljhewett@ihug.co.nz wrote: > I was wondering if you know if it's possible to trace adoption > records - probably from around 1915/20? There was no formal adoption until 1927. Prior to that there were only informal arrangements, usually within the wider family. If an agreement was drawn up between the parties, you'd have to know the solicitor involved and hope the historical papers were deposited with the local record office but they probably haven't survived. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hi Les Unfortunately there are no records at this date - see this quote from the National Archives in the UK - "Formal adoption, as we now know it, did not exist in England and Wales until 1927. Before then, adoptions were usually informal. In a few cases there was some legal documentation, but no central register." I have no adoptions in my research but maybe others can recommend avenues for you to go down. May not be impossible but I wouldn't get your hopes up too high. HTH Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: <ljhewett@ihug.co.nz> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:16 PM Subject: [MDX] ADOPTION RECORDS ? >I was wondering if you know if it's possible to trace adoption records > - > probably from around 1915/20? There is a family member on my paternal > grandmother's side who was apparently a relation (possibly cousin) but > was > adopted by my GGM and brought up with my grandmother as her brother. > From > what I know it was kept very quiet and no one seems to know what his > surname was pre-adoption, so I don't have much to go on. Les H., > Napier, > New Zealand. > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous > old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some Westminster records are on findmypast. Jeanette > On 20/05/2014 10:05, J. Townsend wrote: >> I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of >> St. >> Giles in the Fields. I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue. Can >> anyone advise, please? > > Doesn't St Giles in the Fields come under Westminster? I have found > some events for St Giles on Ancestry but not all I know should be there. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous > old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in > CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are no parish registers for St Giles in the Fields on Ancestry. The records found there are the bishops' transcripts (BTs), which have long been deposited at LMA. Our earlier exchange on this topic (from 2012) can be seen in the List Archives. http://bit.ly/1oaoYrW I hope it clarifies. Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barry Sent: 20 May 2014 11:46 To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] St Giles in the Fields St Giles in the Fields is in the modern Borough of Camden where it is listed on Ancestry (browsing mode) However, unless it has been corrected since I reported it back in 2012, it is a confusing situation not helped by Ancestry's typical muddle. The registers for St Giles are listed on Ancestry as 'Holborn St Giles' but they are not complete (from memory only from 1800-1812). They are available at the LMA on film and are one of the few parishes available to the public in that media at the LMA. The registers listed on Ancestry as St Giles are not St Giles but Holy Trinity Holborn which happens to be in the parish of St Giles. I suggest you contact the LMA for clarification of the current situation and ask their help? Barry On 20 May 2014, at 10:36, middlesex_county_uk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:05:47 +0100 > From: "J. Townsend" <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> > Subject: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers > To: <Middlesex_county_uk-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <8E62C1318AD24A64B805158D17487CF0@Caissa> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of St. > Giles in the Fields. I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue. Can > anyone advise, please? > > I recall using some St. Giles in the Fields registers on microfilm at the > LMA a few years ago. > > Regards, > > John Townsend >

Original registers FINALLY deposited! Great news indeed - thanks for this. Wonder if the PC will give permission for digitisation onto Ancestry? Remember one of the recent incumbents visiting LMA conservation a couple of years or more ago (while I was in there on one of my volunteer days), think they were trying to persuade him about depositing, but not sure they were successful at that time! Regards Judy (K) On 20 May 2014 10:55, Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> wrote: > John, > > The registers for St Giles in the Fields have traditionally been retained by the church, and (as you say) a film is available at LMA. However, a couple of months ago the original registers were finally deposited at LMA, but they have not yet been catalogued. As far as I'm aware, researchers at LMA still need to use the rather poor quality film. There are no BTs for St Giles before about 1800. > > HTH > > Judy > London, UK > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014, 10:05 > Subject: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers > > I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of St. > Giles in the Fields. I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue. Can > anyone advise, please? > > I recall using some St. Giles in the Fields registers on microfilm at the > LMA a few years ago. > > Regards, > > John Townsend > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

St Giles in the Fields is in the modern Borough of Camden where it is listed on Ancestry (browsing mode) However, unless it has been corrected since I reported it back in 2012, it is a confusing situation not helped by Ancestry's typical muddle. The registers for St Giles are listed on Ancestry as 'Holborn St Giles' but they are not complete (from memory only from 1800-1812). They are available at the LMA on film and are one of the few parishes available to the public in that media at the LMA. The registers listed on Ancestry as St Giles are not St Giles but Holy Trinity Holborn which happens to be in the parish of St Giles. I suggest you contact the LMA for clarification of the current situation and ask their help? Barry On 20 May 2014, at 10:36, middlesex_county_uk-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:05:47 +0100 > From: "J. Townsend" <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> > Subject: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers > To: <Middlesex_county_uk-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <8E62C1318AD24A64B805158D17487CF0@Caissa> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of St. > Giles in the Fields. I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue. Can > anyone advise, please? > > I recall using some St. Giles in the Fields registers on microfilm at the > LMA a few years ago. > > Regards, > > John Townsend > >

John, As far as I know, the LMA film is complete for the registers that survive. But if you're making a special trip you may want to ring them and enquire about your specific period of interest? Checking my notes, I think the earliest burial I have there is 1751. HTH Judy London, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014, 11:03 Subject: Re: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers Many thanks for that, Judy.  Do you happen to know whether the film includes burials, 1736-1746? Best wishes, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lester" <jlester@btinternet.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com>; <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers John, The registers for St Giles in the Fields have traditionally been retained by the church, and (as you say) a film is available at LMA. However, a couple of months ago the original registers were finally deposited at LMA, but they have not yet been catalogued. As far as I'm aware, researchers at LMA still need to use the rather poor quality film. There are no BTs for St Giles before about 1800. HTH Judy London, UK

I live in Ashford and the West London District School has long since been knocked down and the grounds now house Bronzefield Prison. Here is a link to info of the school with photos. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestLondonSD/ Lynne On 12/05/2014 11:02, Michael Allbrook wrote: > But perhaps he kept his birt name to emigrate Possibly but I've never found him under either his birth name or his stepfather's.I'm going to pop round to a friend's place and check some of the other ports of entry on Ancestry.com -- Connie <http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/> http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/ 　 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 22:31:49 +0100 From: "Pauline Taylor" <ap.taylor@virgin.net> Subject: [MDX] West London District School To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <48719874B89148BA9C0CD5948B617A53@PaulinePC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response 　 　 Following on from Judy's response to Connie's query does anyone know why my grandfather Alfred RUSSELL, born in Fosters Buildings, Whitecross Street in January 1874, would have been an inmate in the West London District School in 1881 when there is an Alfred RUSSELL aged 7 listed as an inmate at the school. This Alfred is the right age but his place of birth is recorded as unknown. There is no other Alfred RUSSELL in 1881 who could be him that I have found. My great grandfather, Samuel Denton RUSSELL was a widower in 1881, and he was living at 196 Whitecross Street with his eldest son, Arthur RUSSELL aged 16. There were two other children not living with him, a daughter, Jane RUSSELL, aged 14, who was I think in domestic service, and another son Samuel RUSSELL, aged 12, who is missing completely. It all seems very strange to me as my great grandfather was in employment as a butcher in 1881 so there was no workhouse connection to explain why my grandfather had been sent away to the residential school. By 1891 the family were together again. If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. Many thanks, Pauline Taylor. In Colchester Britain's First City.

Many thanks for that, Judy. Do you happen to know whether the film includes burials, 1736-1746? Best wishes, John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Lester" <jlester@btinternet.com> To: <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com>; <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers John, The registers for St Giles in the Fields have traditionally been retained by the church, and (as you say) a film is available at LMA. However, a couple of months ago the original registers were finally deposited at LMA, but they have not yet been catalogued. As far as I'm aware, researchers at LMA still need to use the rather poor quality film. There are no BTs for St Giles before about 1800. HTH Judy London, UK

St Giles in the Fields comes into the (modern) London Borough of Camden, not Westminster, and is therefore on LMA's 'patch', not Westminster Archives'. HTH Judy London, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: J.M.de Montalk <jeanettedm@slingshot.co.nz> Some Westminster records are on findmypast. Jeanette > On 20/05/2014 10:05, J. Townsend wrote: >> I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of >> St. >> Giles in the Fields.  I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue.  Can >> anyone advise, please? > > Doesn't St Giles in the Fields come under Westminster?  I have found > some events for St Giles on Ancestry but not all I know should be there. > > -- > Connie > http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

John, The registers for St Giles in the Fields have traditionally been retained by the church, and (as you say) a film is available at LMA. However, a couple of months ago the original registers were finally deposited at LMA, but they have not yet been catalogued. As far as I'm aware, researchers at LMA still need to use the rather poor quality film. There are no BTs for St Giles before about 1800. HTH Judy London, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Townsend <john@johntownsend.demon.co.uk> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014, 10:05 Subject: [MDX] St. Giles in the Fields registers I need to search for a burial, 1736-1746, in the register (or B.T.'s) of St. Giles in the Fields.  I didn't find an entry in the LMA catalogue.  Can anyone advise, please? I recall using some St. Giles in the Fields registers on microfilm at the LMA a few years ago. Regards, John Townsend