Hi Rose I see no reason why he couldn't hold that job In the 1845 Post Office Directory he is listed in a category of :- Alphabetical List of Persons Holding Situations Under The Crown In the East India House Bank of England, The Various Law, City, And All Other Public Offices John Young JAMESON Chelsea Hospital Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 16/08/2014 00:59, Opiekan via wrote: > My ggg grandfather - John Young Jameson (1790 - 1845) is listed in 1841 > census as on part Army pension. From 1821 until his death I have found him > listed in Land Tax Records, Death Certificate, Cemetery Records and Will in > residence at 9 Allsop Terrace Marylebone. His Will lists him as Gentleman. > > I have found in London Post Office Directory under Royal Chelsea Hospital an > entry for John Young Jameson, 'Junior, first class, Clerk. The entry above > that is for the Agent & Paymaster for the Out-Pensioners, it lists Clerks > in order from Chief to Junior second class. I have checked census for 1851 > for other clerks listed with John and could find only one who in 1851 listed > his occupation as Civil Servant Army Records, his age was slightly younger > than John. As I have not found anyone else with the same name I am > wondering if some one of the age of about 50 would be employed as such. > > Thanks for any advice. > > Rose > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My ggg grandfather - John Young Jameson (1790 - 1845) is listed in 1841 census as on part Army pension. From 1821 until his death I have found him listed in Land Tax Records, Death Certificate, Cemetery Records and Will in residence at 9 Allsop Terrace Marylebone. His Will lists him as Gentleman. I have found in London Post Office Directory under Royal Chelsea Hospital an entry for John Young Jameson, 'Junior, first class, Clerk. The entry above that is for the Agent & Paymaster for the Out-Pensioners, it lists Clerks in order from Chief to Junior second class. I have checked census for 1851 for other clerks listed with John and could find only one who in 1851 listed his occupation as Civil Servant Army Records, his age was slightly younger than John. As I have not found anyone else with the same name I am wondering if some one of the age of about 50 would be employed as such. Thanks for any advice. Rose

My grandfather was Inspector of Nuisances in Sydney. His job included excessive noise and rubbish collection as well as being a rat catcher. He died in 1905 so I'm sure this job would have another name now, maybe Health Inspector? Lesley on the beautiful northern beaches of Sydney -----Original Message----- From: Jenny De Angelis via Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 9:14 PM To: Middlesex List Subject: [MDX] Occupation- Inspector of Nuisances I have just found the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances in a marriage entry for Middlesex and wonder what exactly this occupation would entail. I imagine things like noisy and unruly neighbours might come into this title, as it might today, but what else would it include? Can anyone help at all Regards Jenny DeAngelis . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 15/08/2014 15:22, Brad Rogers via wrote: > It's been divided up: > > Rat Catcher (Councils are obliged to deal with rats, not so mice) Council as you say. > Noise Abatement Officer > Health Inspector Environmental Health around here but the latter could be Health & Safety depending on circumstances. -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

> > It's been divided up: > > Rat Catcher Rodent Operative or Pest Control Officer (Councils are obliged to deal with rats, not so mice) I own three cats (well, they live with/on me) who are supposed to deal with mice. However, they seem to consider it beneath their dignity. Or they bring one IN from the garden and let it run, after plonking it down and expecting a reward sachet. In his youth, Nelson (senior cat) was hot stuff on squirrels, pigeons, and even pheasants (depite being shooed off the last). Now it is too much effort. > Noise Abatement Officer Environmental Health officer EVE -- Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Thankyou to everyone that replied to me regarding the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances. I had an idea that it meant someone who dealt with public nuisances such as inspecting insanitary conditions, dirty conditions, noise & pest control and all the rest but wanted to be sure. I couldn't think what a modern day title for such an inspector would be but A Public Health Inspector sounds exactly what title I was looking for. Thanks to all who replied to me. Regards Jenny DeAngelis.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:07:49 +1000 Lesley Booth via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Lesley, >excessive noise and rubbish collection as well as being a rat catcher. >He died in 1905 so I'm sure this job would have another name now, maybe >Health Inspector? It's been divided up: Rat Catcher (Councils are obliged to deal with rats, not so mice) Noise Abatement Officer Health Inspector to name but three. No doubt there are others. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" You never listen to a word that I said Public Image - Public Image Ltd

I have just found the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances in a marriage entry for Middlesex and wonder what exactly this occupation would entail. I imagine things like noisy and unruly neighbours might come into this title, as it might today, but what else would it include? Can anyone help at all Regards Jenny DeAngelis

>From the Dictionary of Old Trades & Occupations by Andrew & Sandra Twining: "Inspector of nuisances A person employed by a parish or council to inspect for breaches of law, eg bad sanitary conditions, obstruction to footpaths and roads etc. Refuse heaps, smells and insanitary conditions of all kinds were known as "nuisances". In 1846 the Nuisance Removal and Prevention of Diseases Act was passed, enabling towns to appoint inspectors to report on the offensive conditions in their areas. In 1853 one inspector's job description was to seek out nuisances that might be injurious to health in dwelling places or buildings (such as filthy and unwholesome living conditions), to inspect ditches, gutters, drains, privies, cesspools and ash pits. He was also to inspect dwelling places where animals were kept to make sure that they caused no offence and report unclean ditches, gutters and watercourses along the highway. Later in the 19th century, it was the duty of an Inspector of Nuisances to supply disinfectant and ensure that houses with smallpox were disinfected. In 1890 the Inspector of Nuisances became a Sanitary Inspector." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny De Angelis via" <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> To: "Middlesex List" <middlesex_county_uk-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:14 PM Subject: [MDX] Occupation- Inspector of Nuisances >I have just found the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances in a marriage > entry for Middlesex and wonder what exactly this occupation would entail. > I > imagine things like noisy and unruly neighbours might come into this > title, > as it might today, but what else would it include? > > Can anyone help at all > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From Wikipedia "An Inspector of Nuisances was the title of an office in several English-speaking jurisdictions. In many jurisdictions this term is now archaic, the position and/or term having been replaced by others. In medieval England it was an office of the Courts Leet and later it was also a parochial office concerned with local action against a wide range of 'nuisances' under the common law: obstructions of the highway, polluted wells, adulterated food, smoke, noise, smelly accumulations, eavesdropping, peeping toms, lewd behaviour, and many others. In the United Kingdom from the mid- 19th century this office became associated with solving public health and sanitation problems, with other types of nuisances being dealt with by the local constables. The first Inspector of Nuisances appointed by a UK local authority Health Committee was Thomas Fresh in Liverpool in 1844. Liverpool later promoted a private Act, the Liverpool Sanatory (sic) Act 1846, that created a statutory post of Inspector of Nuisances. This became the precedent for later local and national legislation. In local authorities that had established a Board of Health under the Public Health Act 1848, or under local Acts implementing the Towns Improvement Clauses Act of 1847, the title was 'Inspector of Nuisances'. The 1855 Nuisances Removal and Diseases Prevention Act and the Metropolis Management Act 1855 (via section 134) mandated such an office but with the title of 'Sanitary Inspector'. So in some places the title was 'Sanitary Inspector' and in others 'Inspector of Nuisances'. Eventually the title was standardized across all UK local authorities as 'Sanitary Inspector'. An Act of Parliament in 1956 changed the title to 'Public Health Inspector'. Similar offices were established across the British Commonwealth and Empire. The nearest modern equivalent of this position in the UK is the Environmental Health Officer. This title being adopted by local authorities on the recommendation of Central Government after the Local Government Act 1972. Today, Registered UK Environmental Health Officers working in non-enforcement roles (eg in the private sector) may prefer to use the generic term 'Environmental Health Practitioner'." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny De Angelis via" <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> To: "Middlesex List" <middlesex_county_uk-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:14 PM Subject: [MDX] Occupation- Inspector of Nuisances >I have just found the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances in a marriage > entry for Middlesex and wonder what exactly this occupation would entail. > I > imagine things like noisy and unruly neighbours might come into this > title, > as it might today, but what else would it include? > > Can anyone help at all > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jenny About half way down the following page <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuisance#Inspector_of_Nuisances> Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 15/08/2014 12:14, Jenny De Angelis via wrote: > I have just found the occupation of Inspector of Nuisances in a marriage > entry for Middlesex and wonder what exactly this occupation would entail. I > imagine things like noisy and unruly neighbours might come into this title, > as it might today, but what else would it include? > > Can anyone help at all > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis

> > Does anyone have access to newspapers for May 1905 for Potters Bar, > Middlesex. > > My grt. Uncle Harry Edmed died from Meningitis at Myrtle Cottage, Hospital > Road, Potters Bar, > > South Mimms on 14 May 1905. He was only 9 poor little mite. I have the Death > Cert. but would like to know if there were any obituaries for him. It isn't exactly likely that a small child dying of natural causes would have an 'obituary' as such. The parents may have put in a simple death notice, which is a different matter, but as these cost money, not many families did then. The content would only be what you know (or even less than that, the simple name) For general information, a proper obituary. where actual details of a person's background and life details are included, will normally only appear in a newspaper if that person was a locally prominent resdident - gent, shop-keeper, manufacturer, possibly a local councillor, or someone who had achieved eminence as a writer, painter, musician, athlete (latterly) The quick check is to access the Britishnewspaperarchive - there is a free on line synopsis, which gives the gist of the article (not just a bare name) and indicates both the issue and page number but also shows a blue'thumbnail;' indicating the size of the article concerned and its position on the page. You can then -if it looks to be more than the single line given in the synopsis, buy a print out of the actual article (or if you hasve access locally, go to see the paper). It is worth putting 'edmed' into the search box, just to see if the family were locally prominent. This will sometime give you interesting sidelights - did they ride bicyles without lights, allow cattle to stray, play cricket, win prizes at flower shows? All part of the rich tapestry of ancestral life. . > > > > > > Cheers & thanks > > > > Marcelle > > Western Australia > > > > > > > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Hi List Does anyone have access to newspapers for May 1905 for Potters Bar, Middlesex. My grt. Uncle Harry Edmed died from Meningitis at Myrtle Cottage, Hospital Road, Potters Bar, South Mimms on 14 May 1905. He was only 9 poor little mite. I have the Death Cert. but would like to know if there were any obituaries for him. His parents were John & Agnes Edmed (neè Barter). Hope someone can steer me in the right direction. Cheers & thanks Marcelle Western Australia

On 10/08/2014 11:02, mvs via wrote: > Does anyone have access to newspapers for May 1905 for Potters Bar, > Middlesex. > > My grt. Uncle Harry Edmed died from Meningitis at Myrtle Cottage, Hospital > Road, Potters Bar, South Mimms on 14 May 1905. He was only 9 poor little > mite. I have the Death Cert. but would like to know if there were any obituaries > for him. His parents were John & Agnes Edmed (neè Barter). It would depend on the standing of the parents. Obits were not automatic and tended only to be placed if the family could afford to pay for one. Have you tried the British Newspaper Archive site? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Thanks John and Eve! -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eve McLaughlin Sent: 05 March 2014 09:07 PM To: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] John Pearton year > is about 1821. It shows he was born in Middlesex, and at the time of > the census was living in Ealing. It is rather risky to rely on an 1841 statement of 'born in this county'. So many people didn't see what business it was of anybody else, and just put 'yes' automatically. Servants anyway did not give their own evidence but took what was stated by their employer. It was be rather unusual for an actual male domestic servant to join the Army, unless he was on the run from the law. ]If he was 'MS' on a farm, then it was highly likely he was an incomer' getting the Middlesex hay' which came on 3-4 weeks ahead of other counties, because of lavish applications of 'night soil' It looks like his occupation > at the time as a man servant. EVE . ************************************** Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk . ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List. I am hoping that someone may be able to help with my Grandfather, Ernest SMITH. The last sighting of him was on the 1912 electoral register living at 5, Little Ealing Lane in Ealing. Has anyone got access to the 1913, 14 or 15 electoral registers who could look him up please? His wife, Florence, turns up on the 1930 electoral registers in Earls Court. Nothing for either of them in between. He was born 1880 in Stourbridge and I believe that he died in the Great War but cannot find any record of him even joining up. Any help or suggestions would be most welcome as this search has been going on for 20 years now. Thank you for reading this. Rona.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/ is a new website giving details of WWI Prisoners of War. There's still approx 20% still to be uploaded, so if you don't find someone you're looking for now, keep trying. Access is free. See also: http://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/ww1-prisoner-war-records-go-online-free -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

This might be a useful site: http://www.lostancestors.eu/ -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk

Hello everyone. I am making another try at trying to find the maiden name of OLIVE who married JAMES WOODMAN who was baptised 14/2/1796. He died aged 29 12/12/1825 St. Margaret. Uxbridge. Olive was born about (estimated by death age) 1793. Buried 12/13/1828 aged 35. Their first daughter MARIA was baptised St. Marys, Harmondsworth 23/5/1819. Buried 25/7/1827 age 9 years. MARY baptised 9/11/1821. Buried 30/3/1827 age 5 years. CHARLOTTE/CHARLOTTA baptised 18/4 1821. Buried 30/12/1825. Son HENRY baptised 24/4/1825 and grew up to marry and have his own family. All 4 children were baptised at St. Marys or St. Margaret, Harmondsworth and living in UXBRIDGE area. Because I cannot find any church wedding on any sites, or even any other wedding for them, I cannot find a surname that might fit OLIVE. Every site I have tried has no information that might remotely fit her and where she was born. Not all church registers are opened up yet so this has made the going a bit tough. I am hoping that somebody just might have this family in their family line. If so, I would be so pleased if they would contact me April. Hampshire

Please delete all other lists and keep only the Middlesex address. Not everyone will be on the same lists. On 15/07/2014 14:53, middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com wrote: > Hello everyone. > > I am making another try at trying to find the maiden name of OLIVE who > married JAMES WOODMAN who was baptised 14/2/1796. He died aged 29 > 12/12/1825 St. Margaret. Uxbridge. > > Olive was born about (estimated by death age) 1793. Buried 12/13/1828 > aged 35. > > Their first daughter MARIA was baptised St. Marys, Harmondsworth > 23/5/1819. Buried 25/7/1827 age 9 years. > > MARY baptised 9/11/1821. Buried 30/3/1827 age 5 years. > > CHARLOTTE/CHARLOTTA baptised 18/4 1821. Buried 30/12/1825. > > Son HENRY baptised 24/4/1825 and grew up to marry and have his own family. > > All 4 children were baptised at St. Marys or Sy Margargaret, > Harmondsworth and living in Hertfordshire. . > > Because I cannot find any church wedding on any sites, or even any other > wedding for them, I cannot find a surname that might fit OLIVE. > Every site I > have triedhas no information that might remotely fit her and where she > was born. Not all church registers are opened up yet so this has made > the going a bit tough. > > I am hoping that somebody just might have this family in their family > line. If so, I would be so pleased if they would contact me. > > April. Hampshire > > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* superfluous old messages in replies. Only include the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie who, what, where, when, with SURNAMES in CAPITAL letters. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The archives can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >