Hello again, To Lawrence and Paul........Thank you for your suggestion that it may mean "Broken" and possibly "Back". I agree getting the Death Certificate may help solve the problem. Regards, Roger (Oz).

Leonard Allen HERBERT was a stock filler in a small arms factory. He married Eva HAWKES in 1918. They had a son Allen George HERBERT who was born in 1921. Eva had two sisters, Christine and Ida who went to Australia. She joined them and died in 1924. I'm searching for their parents and any siblings they may have. Is there anyone else researching this family? Jan Sheard. Australia

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:22:37 +1000 Roger McCarthy via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Roger, >I think the first word is Blind, but can’t work out the following >words. Looks to me like "Blind+Broken ....", but I can't make out the last word. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" Sign away your life Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers

Hello fellow Listers, I would like help to decipher the words in the last column (deaft-blind etc) in the 1881 census for Margaret Mc Carthy............ RG11; Piece: 448; Folio: 94; Page: 20; Schedule; 112. I think the first word is Blind, but can’t work out the following words. Any help would be appreciated, Roger (Oz).

Hello fellow Listers, I would like help to decipher the words in the last column (deaft-blind etc) in the 1881 census for Margaret Mc Carthy............ RG11; Piece: 448; Folio: 94; Page: 20; Schedule; 112. I think the first word is Blind, but can’t work out the following words. Any help would be appreciated, Roger (Oz).

Hello Roger It looks to me like "Blind + Broken B[a]"(ck?). Am confident it says Broken and the next letter looks very much like another B followed probably by an a. I see that Margaret probably died in 1886. I wonder if the death certificate might help? Regards Lawrence > To: middlesex_county_uk-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 12:04:16 +1000 > Subject: [MDX] LAST COLUMN QUERY FOR MARGARET MC CARTHY (1881 Census). > From: middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com > > Hello fellow Listers, > I would like help to decipher the words in the last column (deaft-blind etc) in the 1881 census > for Margaret Mc Carthy............ RG11; Piece: 448; Folio: 94; Page: 20; Schedule; 112. > I think the first word is Blind, but can’t work out the following words. > > Any help would be appreciated, > Roger (Oz). > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Roger: I think it may start "Blind & Broken" but I can't decipher the last word. Paul On 14 September 2014 03:04, Roger McCarthy via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hello fellow Listers, > I would like help to decipher the words in the last column (deaft-blind etc) in the 1881 census > for Margaret Mc Carthy............ RG11; Piece: 448; Folio: 94; Page: 20; Schedule; 112. > I think the first word is Blind, but can’t work out the following words. > > Any help would be appreciated, > Roger (Oz). > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 06/09/2014 19:27, eve@varneys.org.uk wrote: > Perhaps he had got into debt as Richard, and this was > the way he hoped to dodge any bills or writs. > perhaps Richard had skipped and been replaced by a George (Bloggs) and > Emma was passing him off as her husband. > > I rather favour the middle one. It was easy to run into debt as a tailor, since > you had to give credit to customers, and if they then didn't pay up, -trouble. > Just ppossibly the problem reached newspapers -try the online listing. > I wouldn't trust someone else's Ancestry tree anyway - so many are cobbled > together without first engaging brain. I'm /fairly/ certain Emma was passing one of them off as her husband but I'm not sure which one. There's an 1862 death for a Richard who might be her possible/alleged husband. There's also a marriage for an Emma CRANE to a George CLEAVER in which she claims to be a spinster but no marriage to a Richard CLEAVER. It's been suggested George and Richard were brothers, the sons of a Thomas CLEAVER who was also a tailor. I don't have Emma or Sarah in 1861. There's nothing in the papers about him. I tried the London Gazette but it's changed out of all recognition and there doesn't seem to be any way of searching for any historical articles. Clicking on Insolvency just brings up a load of modern events. I don't trust 90% of the Ancestry trees anyway. None of those with CLEAVER trees have all the children. Sarah's the one most often missed off because she was married by 1871 so not with Emma and George. Thank you for the suggestion. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

have now received Sarah's birth certificate which gives her parents > as parents as Richard and Emma nee CRANE which means I'm not really > any further forward. > > http://wp.me/p3nHph-1z > > This is one instance where the birth certificates are a necessity but > may not actually help. I'm not even sure if the death certs for > either or both of the Richards would help. The burials aren't on > Ancestry as yet and FamilySearch only has the GRO index entries. > > Any suggestions how to sort this one out would be appreciated. perhaps EERHAPS rPerhaps he had got into debt as Richard, and this was the way he hoped to dodge any bills or writs. perhaps Richard had skipped and been replaced by a George (Bloggs) and Emma was passing him off as her husband. I rather favour the middle one. It was easy to run into debt as a tailor, since you had to give credit to customers, and if they then didn't pay up, -trouble. Just ppossibly the problem reached newspapers -try the online listing. > > The Ancestry trees don't help. I wouldn't trust someone else's Ancestry tree anyway - so many are cobbled together without first engaging brain. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

I have now received Sarah's birth certificate which gives her parents as parents as Richard and Emma nee CRANE which means I'm not really any further forward. http://wp.me/p3nHph-1z This is one instance where the birth certificates are a necessity but may not actually help. I'm not even sure if the death certs for either or both of the Richards would help. The burials aren't on Ancestry as yet and FamilySearch only has the GRO index entries. Any suggestions how to sort this one out would be appreciated. The Ancestry trees don't help. The one person who might be able to hasn't responded to my message :( -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

Hello, I have just joined the list and am wondering if anyone is researching Thomas and Jane DODDS (she born Durham) married 1797 St Benet¹s St Paul¹s Wharf. They had 6 children Jane 1800-1877 unmarried, died Northumberland Thomas 1800-? Married Elizabeth COOPER 1826, Bishopgate Mary Ann 1802-1834 unmarried Ann Dodds 1807-1864, married Thomas James HANCOCK 1831 St Mary Haggerston, both died Islington James Farquhar 1807-1849 married Ellen LAMBERT 1834 St Pancreas Charles ­ I don¹t have anything on him, however he is mentioned in family papers, Wills etc. Other connections to this family, though not necessarily related are Edward REEVES, James FARQUHAR, John DODDS, William TURNER, the last 2 from Durham to name a few. Thanks and Cheers Gwyneth Sydney

Hi I am new to this list and am trying to connect with my GREENE family members in Enfield, Middlesex who had family come to the Colonies in the mid 1600s. My first GREENE member is John GREENE b. abt. 1650-51 who came to Rhode Island as early as 1684—Possibly Bristol, RI by 1684. John GREENE died 1729 in Warwick, Kent, RI. He married Abigail Wardwell in 1684. My only clues as to where he was from is that he named a daughter, Enfield and his grandson referred to him as John GREENE of London. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I live in South Carolina, USA—Betty

Hi Sue I suspect you will need to give a little more to get any meaningful response What area, time frame, etc There are many thousands of both names around at all points in time Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 29/08/2014 08:50, sue via wrote: > Hi, Anyone on the list researching Lynn and Seymour family trees. Willing to share info. Would be nice to connect. Thanks Sue

Hi, Anyone on the list researching Lynn and Seymour family trees. Willing to share info. Would be nice to connect. Thanks Sue

On 27/08/2014 22:29, Jackie Evans via wrote: > Hello All > > I took advantage of the free Ancestry access over the bank holiday and was > lucky enough to find what could be the will of my ancestor Robert STONE who > died at Northolt in 1808. The writing was difficult to decipher so I tried > to download it to read later - and failed completely. > > In case I have the chance to look at Ancestry again, I should appreciate any > advice as to how to go about this. > > (In case it's relevant I've got windows XP and when I tried to open the > files I'd saved, my computer froze completely). Copy sent direct which hopefully you have now and can open. I'm using XP as well. -- List Admin, Middx

Hello All I took advantage of the free Ancestry access over the bank holiday and was lucky enough to find what could be the will of my ancestor Robert STONE who died at Northolt in 1808. The writing was difficult to decipher so I tried to download it to read later - and failed completely. In case I have the chance to look at Ancestry again, I should appreciate any advice as to how to go about this. (In case it's relevant I've got windows XP and when I tried to open the files I'd saved, my computer froze completely). Regards Jackie (in south Wales)

Hi I have been sent a photo by a relative, of a baby, most likely surname PLACE, my maiden name. We are trying to ascertain who the baby is. I have noted the Photographers name on the front as B Foulke Winks of 2 Pretoria Avenue, Walthamstow. I found him at that address in the 1891 census and also found a website with a bit of information. It says from 1891 he was there and by the time of 1901 he was in Wealdstone, Hendon, Middlesex way. So I was trying to narrow it down even further and was hoping someone may have a directory for the Walthamstow area and can tell me when this gentleman, no longer appears in Walthamstow as that will tell me when to begin and when to stop looking for the baby. I have several families from around the area, Feasey, Newman, Place some with babies born about this time. The child looks like it may be celebrating its first birthday. Could be a christening robe but not a long one. Could be girl or boy. The dateline for B Foulkes Winks Photograpehrs within that time frame wuld be very useful. I noted the chair as it may be in other photographs the relative has but i dont think it appears in any. Knowing the time frame will help heaps. thanks Edie McArthur Australia

Thanks Charani, I think it is safe to say John’s occupation was a ‘Clerk’ Rose

Thanks Nivard, I omitted to say the entry is dated 1843. That's what made me wonder what the significance is for 'junior' in that particular occupation at his age. To date this is the only reference I have found for his occupation, everything else just say 'Gentleman' so am trying to work out where his income came from. I cannot find any record of him in the 'Chelsea Pensioners' or in any military/navy records. He married in 1817 in Westminster, his children successful in commerce. I also have the 1845 Post Office Directory entry but thanks anyway. Regards Rose.

On 16/08/2014 11:29, Opiekan via wrote: > I omitted to say the entry is dated 1843. That's what made me wonder what > the significance is for 'junior' in that particular occupation at his age. "Junior" would have referred to his employment level, not his age. He had yet to be promoted to "Senior" -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Ashcott, Shapwick, Greinton and Clutton, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk