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Yes. The PRs lodged at the Westminster Archive Centre, including those of St Margaret's, have been digitised and indexed by FindMyPast. Sent from my iPad > On 19 Nov 2014, at 03:56, strau strau via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I'm looking for records for the period 1698 to 1714. I don't seem to find > them either in Ancestry or Family Search. Are they available on line? > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm looking for records for the period 1698 to 1714. I don't seem to find them either in Ancestry or Family Search. Are they available on line?

Thank you to Judy, Jon and Alison for your help with Susannah's surname. She is in my husbands direct line, so its an important find. Regards Barbara On 16 November 2014 00:03, Judy Lester <jlester@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Barbara > > Susanna's surname is Free (written ffree). She was 'of Stepney'. > > HTH > > Judy > London, UK > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Barbara Gray via > Date:15/11/2014 18:38 (GMT+00:00) > To: Middlesex > Subject: [MDX] CANNELL mar 1725 > > Hi all > I have found a marriage of Augustin Cannell to Susannah on 12 Aug > 1725 - its under the Clandestine Marriages & Baptism Register > 1667-1754. > > I cannot read Susannah's surname. Ancestry, bless their hearts, have > transcribed it as Stepney which it clearly is not. > > Any help deciphering this would be very helpful. > Thanks > . >

Barbara There is a correction submitted on Ancestry to say it is Susanna FREE. I'm not sure about the first letter(s) but ?ree could well be correct. Susanna Free of Stepney. Jon Baker -----Original Message----- I cannot read Susannah's surname. Ancestry, bless their hearts, have transcribed it as Stepney which it clearly is not.

Hi all I have found a marriage of Augustin Cannell to Susannah on 12 Aug 1725 - its under the Clandestine Marriages & Baptism Register 1667-1754. I cannot read Susannah's surname. Ancestry, bless their hearts, have transcribed it as Stepney which it clearly is not. Any help deciphering this would be very helpful. Thanks

New to list. I am trying to establish the birth/parents of Henry BALL born between 1801 and 1807, Saint Lukes, Middlesex. Family records had his birth as 20 Aug 1804 St. Pancras, chr. 09 Sep 1804 Saint Luke Old Street, Finsbury, London, England. However, that Henry BALL died 21 Apr 1806: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMJH-VHC Henry married Letitia INWOOD in 1831. I found a marriage record for them at Ancestry.com, but it doesn't contain any parent details. Could there be another marriage record somewhere which lists father/parent details? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. The information I have about Henry follows. Thank you. Pip Peck New Zealand ------ Henry BALL b. between 1801 and 1807, Saint Lukes, Middlesex, England m. 33. Letitia INWOOD 28 Feb 1831, St Mary Bryanston Square, Middlesex, England d. 25 Jun 1884, Pancras Workhouse, London, England bur. 30 June 1884, St Pancras Cemetery (Camden) (public or communal grave) Residence 1835 Residence: 17 Fitzroy Place, Saint Mary-le-bone, Middlesex, England 1851 England Census: 5 Castle Place, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England With wife and child; b. ca. 1801, Saint Lukes, Middlesex, England 1861 England Census: 15 King Street, Pancras, Middlesex, England With wife; b. ca. 1805, Saint Lukes, Middlesex, England 1871 England Census: 3 Brook Place, Pancras, Middlesex, England Widower; lodger; b. ca. 1804, Saint Lukes, Middlesex, England 1881 England and Wales Census: Saint Pancras Workhouse, Kings Road, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England Widower; inmate at Saint Pancras Workhouse; b. ca. 1807 1884 Last residence: Saint Pancras Workhouse Occupation 1831 Metropolitan stage driver 1835 Servant 1857 Cab driver 1861 Hackney carrier driver 1871 Carriage driver 1881 Carman (ret) 1884 Coachman Children of Henry and Letitia Henry BALL Jr b. 24 Feb 1835, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England chr. 05 Apr 1835, Trinity, Church, Saint Mary-le-bone, Middlesex, England m. 17. Elizabeth STUART 22 Feb 1857, Saint Pancras Church, Saint Pancras, Middlesex, England d. 04 Mar 1924, England Henry appears to have been an only child

On 13/11/2014 01:10, Toni Evans via wrote: > I have been trying to track down a descendant after 1933 when he > returned to South Africa, his mother died 1962 in Northern Rhodesia > and her probate shows in the Wills and Probate London, Admin with > will to her other son living London and will sealed to Lusaka N.R. > > Do you think that her other son could be in the will but not > mentioned because he is in South Africa. > > The big question is shall I send for the will and will I get the > whole transcription or only the London part ???? You would get the whole will. You'll only know if the other son is in the will if you get it. The son mentioned would be her executor. The Probate Calendar doesn't list all those mentioned in wills. A will is can be very useful. -- Connie http://oursalmons.wordpress.com/

I have been trying to track down a descendant after 1933 when he returned to South Africa, his mother died 1962 in Northern Rhodesia and her probate shows in the Wills and Probate London, Admin with will to her other son living London and will sealed to Lusaka N.R. Do you think that her other son could be in the will but not mentioned because he is in South Africa. The big question is shall I send for the will and will I get the whole transcription or only the London part ???? Many thanks

Thank you very much Eve and Caroline. On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Eve McLaughlin <eve@varneys.org.uk> wrote: > On 2014-11-09 13:56, Mary Haskell via wrote: > >> Now that so many probate records are available for searching where can I >> find the years 1966 to 1996. >> > > Any of the major Probate registries round the UK have listings. But unless > you live right next to one of these, it is simpler to apply to the Leeds > Registry (which handles all postal enquiries for England and Wales). Even > at the recently enhanced price of £10 per will (whatever size) this is > likely to be a cheaper alternative. > State full name of testator, last known address (even district helps) - > if you are after a John Smith, it is obviously helpful to add identifiers > like wife/sons' names. If the name is common it is useful to check BMD > indexes (Readily available to 2006) and select 5the likely location of > death by collating with age. (date of birth is given in later indexes). > EVE Mary > >> . >> ************************************** >> > >

> > It has helped expand the search options, though I could wish the groom hadn't been from Westminster. > Although I have found a few interesting results for a local yeoman of the same name. It only means tthat he was currently living in Westminster (for three weeks) not that he belonged there. Quite possibly he was also from Hayes and the girl had to come up to London if she wanted hime to marry her. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

He's only "of" Westminster, i.e. resident there at the time of the marriage, not necessarily "from" it, in the sense of being born there. Caroline Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2014, at 23:31, M Doherty via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thank you all for your help on this. > > It has helped expand the search options, though I could wish the groom hadn't been from Westminster. > Although I have found a few interesting results for a local yeoman of the same name. > > best regards > Moira > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you all for your help on this. It has helped expand the search options, though I could wish the groom hadn't been from Westminster. Although I have found a few interesting results for a local yeoman of the same name. best regards Moira

On 2014-11-09 13:56, Mary Haskell via wrote: > Now that so many probate records are available for searching where can > I > find the years 1966 to 1996. Any of the major Probate registries round the UK have listings. But unless you live right next to one of these, it is simpler to apply to the Leeds Registry (which handles all postal enquiries for England and Wales). Even at the recently enhanced price of £10 per will (whatever size) this is likely to be a cheaper alternative. State full name of testator, last known address (even district helps) - if you are after a John Smith, it is obviously helpful to add identifiers like wife/sons' names. If the name is common it is useful to check BMD indexes (Readily available to 2006) and select 5the likely location of death by collating with age. (date of birth is given in later indexes). EVE Mary > . > **************************************

Hello Mary I am afraid that that 30 year range falls between the digitised calendars available via Ancestry and the digital index available direct at HMCourt Service. If you have an ancestor who died during that gap, you can still apply direct to HM Court Service for a copy of any will or administration. Go to https://www.gov.uk/wills-probate-inheritance/searching-for-probate-records for a link to the appropriate form. Caroline Sent from my iPad > On 9 Nov 2014, at 13:56, Mary Haskell via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Now that so many probate records are available for searching where can I > find the years 1966 to 1996. Mary > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Now that so many probate records are available for searching where can I find the years 1966 to 1996. Mary

To help with the queries below. ... and alleageth that there is a Marriage shortly to be ... ... of the trueth of which he made oath, & prayd Lycense ... I suspect the parish 'Heesse' (as written) is a rendering of Hayes. HTH Judy London, UK -----Original Message----- From: middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:middlesex_county_uk-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Diane Wynne via Sent: 08 November 2014 10:57 To: M Doherty; middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [MDX] St Matthew's, Friday Street, 1674, City of London >From Marriage bonds and Allegations: 16 Dec 1674 Appeared personally John Fisher of Westminster in the County of Middlesex gentleman and although there is a marriage shortly to be solemnized between John Fisher of the City of Westminster aforesaid bachelor aged 28 years or thereabouts and Mary Child daughter of Robert Child of ? in the county of Middlesex gentleman aged 22 or thereabouts spinster she has the consent of her parents not knowing any lawful let or impediment to hinder the said intended marriage of the ? which he made oath ? License for them to be married in the parish church of St Matthew Friday Street London or St Peters the Poor London. Sorry can´t read it all but this gives you the information you require except the parish of Mary which Ancestry has transcribed as Heesse Diane On 8 November 2014 02:19, M Doherty via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Whilst researching John FISHER of Hayes-park Middx I came across this > Boyds Marriage Index marriage on findmypast. > > In 1674 John FISHER married Mary CHILD at St Matthew Friday Street. > > This has presented me with an anomaly as St Matthew on Friday Street was > burnt down in 1666 during the Great Fire of London. It was apparently not > rebuilt until 1682. > > Can anyone help with where this marriage would have taken place please?. > Any further information on the marriage would also be welcome. > > I appreciate that the church was in the City of London, but it seems > probable that the bride and/or groom may have been from outside the City. > In particular because Cheapside was a Market. > > Thank you for any assistance > Moira

>From Marriage bonds and Allegations: 16 Dec 1674 Appeared personally John Fisher of Westminster in the County of Middlesex gentleman and although there is a marriage shortly to be solemnized between John Fisher of the City of Westminster aforesaid bachelor aged 28 years or thereabouts and Mary Child daughter of Robert Child of ? in the county of Middlesex gentleman aged 22 or thereabouts spinster she has the consent of her parents not knowing any lawful let or impediment to hinder the said intended marriage of the ? which he made oath ? License for them to be married in the parish church of St Matthew Friday Street London or St Peters the Poor London. Sorry can´t read it all but this gives you the information you require except the parish of Mary which Ancestry has transcribed as Heesse Diane On 8 November 2014 02:19, M Doherty via <middlesex_county_uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Whilst researching John FISHER of Hayes-park Middx I came across this > Boyds Marriage Index marriage on findmypast. > > In 1674 John FISHER married Mary CHILD at St Matthew Friday Street. > > This has presented me with an anomaly as St Matthew on Friday Street was > burnt down in 1666 during the Great Fire of London. It was apparently not > rebuilt until 1682. > > Can anyone help with where this marriage would have taken place please?. > Any further information on the marriage would also be welcome. > > I appreciate that the church was in the City of London, but it seems > probable that the bride and/or groom may have been from outside the City. > In particular because Cheapside was a Market. > > Thank you for any assistance > Moira > . > ************************************** > Send your List messages using *PLAIN TEXT* and always *DELETE* all > previous messages EXCEPT the one to which you are replying. > > *MEANINGFUL Subject Lines* ie name or topic, date and place with surnames > only in CAPS. > > List Admin can be contacted at: Middlesex_County_UK-admin@rootsweb.com > > The List Archive, containing all messages posted, can be found at: > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=middlesex_county_uk > > . > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > MIDDLESEX_COUNTY_UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> Whilst researching John FISHER of Hayes-park Middx I came across this Boyds Marriage Index marriage on findmypast. > > In 1674 John FISHER married Mary CHILD at St Matthew Friday Street. > > This has presented me with an anomaly as St Matthew on Friday Street was burnt down in 1666 during the Great Fire of London. It was apparently not rebuilt until 1682. > > Can anyone help with where this marriage would have taken place please?. Most of the burnt churches were at least temporarily combined with other neighbouring parishes, and, in theory at least, the clergy of the burnt church did the CMB for their own flock but in the adjacent church, keeping up their own registers until such time as they had again a church to put them in. St Matthew was combine with St Peter Cheapside, in this case permanently, and both, eventually with - I think, St Vedast Fost Lane. Churches were pretty thick on the ground in the City, so it was only a short move for the parishioners. In a few cases, the burnt church was never rebuilt and the two parishes simply combined -and presumably when the original clergy died off, the staffing was rationalised. Cheapside was a Market. Cheapside was a street too. Gentry families often found it convenient to marry in the City -it was easier for guests from different areas to get to. EVE Author of The McLaughlin Guides for Family Historians Secretary, Bucks Genealogical Society

Whilst researching John FISHER of Hayes-park Middx I came across this Boyds Marriage Index marriage on findmypast. In 1674 John FISHER married Mary CHILD at St Matthew Friday Street. This has presented me with an anomaly as St Matthew on Friday Street was burnt down in 1666 during the Great Fire of London. It was apparently not rebuilt until 1682. Can anyone help with where this marriage would have taken place please?. Any further information on the marriage would also be welcome. I appreciate that the church was in the City of London, but it seems probable that the bride and/or groom may have been from outside the City. In particular because Cheapside was a Market. Thank you for any assistance Moira